Anyone have one of these Kimber model 82 government model rifles? I have seen some on gunbroker and they are drawing my interest as a trainer rifle. They have the iron sights and a big benchrest stock, but does anyone make aftermarket stocks for them? How do they compare to a Winchester 52 or a 40X?
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Re: Kimber Model 82 G.........Anybody?
I have one that I bought from the CMP and it's accuracy has impressed me. Wolf Match ammo is affordable and shoots extremely well in mine. It's not an Anschutz but it will hold it's own against every 52 I've ever shot. I have no first hand experience with a 40x .22 LR so I can't compare the two.
I have considered turning it into a trainer but have decided to keep it stock so my boys can have a good smallbore rifle when they get older.
The CMP still has some of these with some surface rust for $425. I picked mine out of maybe a dozen they had at a table at the CMP East games in 2010. Mine was one of the "rusty" ones, the rust consisted of about 1/4" of light surface rust on the barrel that I made quick work of with some 0000 steel wool and CLP. I'd buy one from the CMP if I were you, it will save you money and the money goes to the development of junior shooters.
http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/22targetsurplus.htm
I have one that I bought from the CMP and it's accuracy has impressed me. Wolf Match ammo is affordable and shoots extremely well in mine. It's not an Anschutz but it will hold it's own against every 52 I've ever shot. I have no first hand experience with a 40x .22 LR so I can't compare the two.
I have considered turning it into a trainer but have decided to keep it stock so my boys can have a good smallbore rifle when they get older.
The CMP still has some of these with some surface rust for $425. I picked mine out of maybe a dozen they had at a table at the CMP East games in 2010. Mine was one of the "rusty" ones, the rust consisted of about 1/4" of light surface rust on the barrel that I made quick work of with some 0000 steel wool and CLP. I'd buy one from the CMP if I were you, it will save you money and the money goes to the development of junior shooters.
http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/22targetsurplus.htm
Re: Kimber Model 82 G.........Anybody?
I saw the ones on CMP and gunbroker. If i was going to buy one it would definitely be from the CMP. have had awesome luck with Garands from them. My only purpose with one of these would be as a trainer, but the stock and iron sights that come on these would have to go. I cant find any aftermarket stocks and scope rails for these things
I saw the ones on CMP and gunbroker. If i was going to buy one it would definitely be from the CMP. have had awesome luck with Garands from them. My only purpose with one of these would be as a trainer, but the stock and iron sights that come on these would have to go. I cant find any aftermarket stocks and scope rails for these things
Re: Kimber Model 82 G.........Anybody?
I really like mine. Yes the stock is funky looking, but it's comfortable. EGW has a rail for the win52 they claim will work. Looks to me like you must drill and tap.
Maybe someone else has a better idea.
I really like mine. Yes the stock is funky looking, but it's comfortable. EGW has a rail for the win52 they claim will work. Looks to me like you must drill and tap.
Maybe someone else has a better idea.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boydo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have one of these Kimber model 82 government model rifles? I have seen some on gunbroker and they are drawing my interest as a trainer rifle. They have the iron sights and a big benchrest stock, but does anyone make aftermarket stocks for them? How do they compare to a Winchester 52 or a 40X? </div></div>
I have one and another on order and via irons I can shoot MOA at 25, 50 and 100 consistantly ... people say its not an Anni, its not a 40X, ots not a Winchester or its not this or its not that but for 450 out the door its damned fine gun
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boydo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have one of these Kimber model 82 government model rifles? I have seen some on gunbroker and they are drawing my interest as a trainer rifle. They have the iron sights and a big benchrest stock, but does anyone make aftermarket stocks for them? How do they compare to a Winchester 52 or a 40X? </div></div>
I have one and another on order and via irons I can shoot MOA at 25, 50 and 100 consistantly ... people say its not an Anni, its not a 40X, ots not a Winchester or its not this or its not that but for 450 out the door its damned fine gun
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
Some of my shots from a monthly match over at cal guns
4-7-12 (2) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
2-2-12 (4) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
2-2-12 (3) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
12-30-11 (4) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
1-15-12 (1) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
9-11-11 (1) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
3-3-11 (3) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
9-30-12 (2) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
Some of my shots from a monthly match over at cal guns
4-7-12 (2) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
2-2-12 (4) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
2-2-12 (3) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
12-30-11 (4) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
1-15-12 (1) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
9-11-11 (1) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
3-3-11 (3) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
9-30-12 (2) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
Sheesh, the ones on cmp now say may have minor or heavy rust in the barrel... no exchanges. I think I will skip the chance of an immediate re barrel thanks. I would definitely buy through someone willing to tell me what the bore looks like.
Sheesh, the ones on cmp now say may have minor or heavy rust in the barrel... no exchanges. I think I will skip the chance of an immediate re barrel thanks. I would definitely buy through someone willing to tell me what the bore looks like.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJimFish</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sheesh, the ones on cmp now say may have minor or heavy rust in the barrel... no exchanges. I think I will skip the chance of an immediate re barrel thanks. I would definitely buy through someone willing to tell me what the bore looks like. </div></div>
Some of the reports coming from the sales floor state that the rifles are in excellent shape, with only the minor scratch down one side of the stock or barrel. Very few have reposted rust, and what may be confused as rust is actually the dehydrated preservative on the rifle.
At the begining of the October, Orest reported that there were only 2,000 rifles available; the last of their kind from the CMP. They have been leaving the stores on average of 40 to 50 a day... they are going fast. I have an order in, and I have received my "Don't Bother Us" email (DBU), so I should be getting a rifle from this last hoorah. Gaunteed the rifles that make it to GB over the next bunch of months, are the rifles from this sale, as there are no limits on how many you can get from the CMP, short of the yearly limit of 12. If you are thinking about getting one, the time is now...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJimFish</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sheesh, the ones on cmp now say may have minor or heavy rust in the barrel... no exchanges. I think I will skip the chance of an immediate re barrel thanks. I would definitely buy through someone willing to tell me what the bore looks like. </div></div>
Some of the reports coming from the sales floor state that the rifles are in excellent shape, with only the minor scratch down one side of the stock or barrel. Very few have reposted rust, and what may be confused as rust is actually the dehydrated preservative on the rifle.
At the begining of the October, Orest reported that there were only 2,000 rifles available; the last of their kind from the CMP. They have been leaving the stores on average of 40 to 50 a day... they are going fast. I have an order in, and I have received my "Don't Bother Us" email (DBU), so I should be getting a rifle from this last hoorah. Gaunteed the rifles that make it to GB over the next bunch of months, are the rifles from this sale, as there are no limits on how many you can get from the CMP, short of the yearly limit of 12. If you are thinking about getting one, the time is now...
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJimFish</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sheesh, the ones on cmp now say may have minor or heavy rust in the barrel... no exchanges. I think I will skip the chance of an immediate re barrel thanks. I would definitely buy through someone willing to tell me what the bore looks like.</div></div>
If you're in Columbus you're only 2.5 hours away from the north store. The latest report on the north store on the CMP forums is that they have some nice Kimbers in stock. If I lived that close to a CMP store I would be forever broke... and divorced.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJimFish</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sheesh, the ones on cmp now say may have minor or heavy rust in the barrel... no exchanges. I think I will skip the chance of an immediate re barrel thanks. I would definitely buy through someone willing to tell me what the bore looks like.</div></div>
If you're in Columbus you're only 2.5 hours away from the north store. The latest report on the north store on the CMP forums is that they have some nice Kimbers in stock. If I lived that close to a CMP store I would be forever broke... and divorced.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you're in Columbus you're only 2.5 hours away from the north store. The latest report on the north store on the CMP forums is that they have some nice Kimbers in stock. If I lived that close to a CMP store I would be forever broke... and divorced.</div></div>
Maybe I will look into that next week. Never can have to many match .22lrs.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you're in Columbus you're only 2.5 hours away from the north store. The latest report on the north store on the CMP forums is that they have some nice Kimbers in stock. If I lived that close to a CMP store I would be forever broke... and divorced.</div></div>
Maybe I will look into that next week. Never can have to many match .22lrs.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
Rimfirecentral has a ton of info on them. I got one for my father and I have an 82 Custom Classic. Great shooters and the trigger isn't too bad. I would recommend you install a new firing pin spring since many of them get weak over the years.
Rimfirecentral has a ton of info on them. I got one for my father and I have an 82 Custom Classic. Great shooters and the trigger isn't too bad. I would recommend you install a new firing pin spring since many of them get weak over the years.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
Hello, my name is BigJimFish and I am a .22aholic.
I have a problem.
By the way, none of the 50 rifles I saw on the rack today had any significant rust on or in the barrel or receiver. The bore looked perfect on all the ones I saw. Interestingly, each also bore a sticker on the front of the stock revealing its tested group size. I simply bought the four best though I am not sure this was the optimal strategy, two do not have very pretty stocks. Marked group sizes varied from 9.60mm at 50 yd to about 10.90mm. These are all quite impressive though I will be surprised if they will still do this after all this time and with more affordable mid priced ammo. I think they were shot originally with Eley. Also, many of the stocks show signs of minor warp-age which I think will change their performance substantially unless they are bedded. Still, I have high hopes for sub .5" 50 yd groups. I will report when I get out to the range and try them with some CCI std, Eley Sport, and Wolf.
Rust on the bolts varied greatly, two of mine have none or close to none. The other two, (also the tightest grouping guns) have some rust that will need to be removed. All four bolts are an inch deep in WD40 right now, tomorrow will reveal if they will need a new spring or not.
The condition of the Kimbers was very good in general, I think the worst you can expect is noticeable warpage in the stock and a bolt in need of a good soaking and new $6 spring. The barrels all had these cardboard preservative soaked tampons in them so they seemed perfect on inspection.
Hello, my name is BigJimFish and I am a .22aholic.
I have a problem.
By the way, none of the 50 rifles I saw on the rack today had any significant rust on or in the barrel or receiver. The bore looked perfect on all the ones I saw. Interestingly, each also bore a sticker on the front of the stock revealing its tested group size. I simply bought the four best though I am not sure this was the optimal strategy, two do not have very pretty stocks. Marked group sizes varied from 9.60mm at 50 yd to about 10.90mm. These are all quite impressive though I will be surprised if they will still do this after all this time and with more affordable mid priced ammo. I think they were shot originally with Eley. Also, many of the stocks show signs of minor warp-age which I think will change their performance substantially unless they are bedded. Still, I have high hopes for sub .5" 50 yd groups. I will report when I get out to the range and try them with some CCI std, Eley Sport, and Wolf.
Rust on the bolts varied greatly, two of mine have none or close to none. The other two, (also the tightest grouping guns) have some rust that will need to be removed. All four bolts are an inch deep in WD40 right now, tomorrow will reveal if they will need a new spring or not.
The condition of the Kimbers was very good in general, I think the worst you can expect is noticeable warpage in the stock and a bolt in need of a good soaking and new $6 spring. The barrels all had these cardboard preservative soaked tampons in them so they seemed perfect on inspection.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
My impressions after spending most of yesterday, soaking, cleaning and lubricating the four of these.
Barrel - I believe that I read that these were Wilson barrels. The barrels are not hand lapped but they look very good nevertheless. reamer marks were not apparent on inspection. Unfortunately, after cleaning it is apparent that all four have marks varying from quite faint to a bit worrying on the last 1/3rd of an inch or so at the crown. These marks appear to be from some type of mandrel. Accuracy would probably stand to improve from 1/2" of the end of the barrel being lopped off and recrowned. The crown on these barrels is rather perfunctory looking and not to impressive. Barrels are all completely rust free.
The stock - Heavy, quality walnut but lacking much figuring. Most stocks have not spits though one had a slight spit on the butt. These stocks have a very 2x4 bulky feel to them. In letting looks a bit on the rough side. The finish varies greatly stock to stock from deep red to almost natural. The deeper color stocks appear to have a thicker finish which is hard and resisted the slasher better. Cuts on these are less apparent.
The action - Heavy and well machined. No rust on any of the actions. Has a nice feed ramp for the cartridges but the ejector, which is part of the feed ramp, seems to vary in height a good deal gun to gun and is generally to high for the cleaning rod. The shape of the action is reminiscent in my mind of Win 52 actions. It is angular in appearance and has the same locking lug arrangement.
The trigger unit - The machining on this thing is really quite remarkable. It is a pity that the stock hides this trigger unit because it is beautiful. It also adjusts for over-travel, engagement, and weight. I love the trigger unit, it is a masterpiece. Some bench resters seem to think it won't adjust light enough for their toasts but I think it will serve mine perfectly.
The bolt - It is well manufactured but not the best design. Most high end bolts disassemble without any threaded peices. This one uses a threaded screw as the cocking cam pin. This is not a particularly elegant design. The mainspring handling is also a bit clumsy. It is heavily pre-tensioned by a pin that must be removed in dis assembly. This is normal but usually the maker has devised and elegant way to do this beyond having to directly push the spring with a punch and wiggle and hammer at the cross pin. Kimber has not, so this is an awkward process. furthermore, all of my bolts had one side of the pin press fit. That side of the hole had to be gently and carefully filed so that the bolt could be reassembled. The springs all appeared in good condition though all had rust in the chamber the spring resided in and I cleaned them with a .22lr bore brush chucked in a drill. All in all the amount of rust on the bolt was not problematic on any of the 4 rifles. It is to bad that Kimber didn't simply copy CZ or Anschutz with the design of their bolt as both of the latter have more elegant designs. I measured all of the firing pin protrusions on three of my rifles (I forgot on the fourth). One is slightly under spec, .026" the other two, .027" and .0315", are good to go. I expect all will work fine as .026" is probably close enough.
Sights. The sights do not have any rust and feel quite nice. I do worry a bit about the cast aluminum body of the rear sight as it may prove fragile. The overall sight design looks nice and I appreciate the amount of parts that are interchangeable with Anschutz in the design.
My impressions after spending most of yesterday, soaking, cleaning and lubricating the four of these.
Barrel - I believe that I read that these were Wilson barrels. The barrels are not hand lapped but they look very good nevertheless. reamer marks were not apparent on inspection. Unfortunately, after cleaning it is apparent that all four have marks varying from quite faint to a bit worrying on the last 1/3rd of an inch or so at the crown. These marks appear to be from some type of mandrel. Accuracy would probably stand to improve from 1/2" of the end of the barrel being lopped off and recrowned. The crown on these barrels is rather perfunctory looking and not to impressive. Barrels are all completely rust free.
The stock - Heavy, quality walnut but lacking much figuring. Most stocks have not spits though one had a slight spit on the butt. These stocks have a very 2x4 bulky feel to them. In letting looks a bit on the rough side. The finish varies greatly stock to stock from deep red to almost natural. The deeper color stocks appear to have a thicker finish which is hard and resisted the slasher better. Cuts on these are less apparent.
The action - Heavy and well machined. No rust on any of the actions. Has a nice feed ramp for the cartridges but the ejector, which is part of the feed ramp, seems to vary in height a good deal gun to gun and is generally to high for the cleaning rod. The shape of the action is reminiscent in my mind of Win 52 actions. It is angular in appearance and has the same locking lug arrangement.
The trigger unit - The machining on this thing is really quite remarkable. It is a pity that the stock hides this trigger unit because it is beautiful. It also adjusts for over-travel, engagement, and weight. I love the trigger unit, it is a masterpiece. Some bench resters seem to think it won't adjust light enough for their toasts but I think it will serve mine perfectly.
The bolt - It is well manufactured but not the best design. Most high end bolts disassemble without any threaded peices. This one uses a threaded screw as the cocking cam pin. This is not a particularly elegant design. The mainspring handling is also a bit clumsy. It is heavily pre-tensioned by a pin that must be removed in dis assembly. This is normal but usually the maker has devised and elegant way to do this beyond having to directly push the spring with a punch and wiggle and hammer at the cross pin. Kimber has not, so this is an awkward process. furthermore, all of my bolts had one side of the pin press fit. That side of the hole had to be gently and carefully filed so that the bolt could be reassembled. The springs all appeared in good condition though all had rust in the chamber the spring resided in and I cleaned them with a .22lr bore brush chucked in a drill. All in all the amount of rust on the bolt was not problematic on any of the 4 rifles. It is to bad that Kimber didn't simply copy CZ or Anschutz with the design of their bolt as both of the latter have more elegant designs. I measured all of the firing pin protrusions on three of my rifles (I forgot on the fourth). One is slightly under spec, .026" the other two, .027" and .0315", are good to go. I expect all will work fine as .026" is probably close enough.
Sights. The sights do not have any rust and feel quite nice. I do worry a bit about the cast aluminum body of the rear sight as it may prove fragile. The overall sight design looks nice and I appreciate the amount of parts that are interchangeable with Anschutz in the design.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
BigJimFish, Congrats on your new rifles, I've enjoyed mine.
BigJimFish, Congrats on your new rifles, I've enjoyed mine.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boydo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have one of these Kimber model 82 government model rifles? I have seen some on gunbroker and they are drawing my interest as a trainer rifle. They have the iron sights and a big benchrest stock, but does anyone make aftermarket stocks for them? How do they compare to a Winchester 52 or a 40X?</div></div>
Boydo,
The 82G's are a good dollar value, just dont do the rem 40 and DEF not the Win 52 comparison thing. They are not at those levels of quality and accuracy.
If thats where your budget is, go for it and enjoy them for what they are.
Good shooting,
DS
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boydo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have one of these Kimber model 82 government model rifles? I have seen some on gunbroker and they are drawing my interest as a trainer rifle. They have the iron sights and a big benchrest stock, but does anyone make aftermarket stocks for them? How do they compare to a Winchester 52 or a 40X?</div></div>
Boydo,
The 82G's are a good dollar value, just dont do the rem 40 and DEF not the Win 52 comparison thing. They are not at those levels of quality and accuracy.
If thats where your budget is, go for it and enjoy them for what they are.
Good shooting,
DS
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
How likely is it that you would get a rifle with to much rust to make it a good deal? is there a potential that you could end up with a boat anchor, or is the rust just going to be superficial?
How likely is it that you would get a rifle with to much rust to make it a good deal? is there a potential that you could end up with a boat anchor, or is the rust just going to be superficial?
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
Tho not a 40x or 52 a great trainer or club target shooter. The stock is blockey but can easity be trimmed and refinished easy enough with common wood working tools. A guy on Rimfirecentral.com can give you a trigger in ounces. Richards Microfit might have alternative stocks tho I would modify the stock as I said. I had one untill I got a 40x and would buy another in a minute. What guys do is buy more than one, keep the favorite and sell the rest. Of what I see on RimfireCentral your chances of getting a really rusty one are small
Tho not a 40x or 52 a great trainer or club target shooter. The stock is blockey but can easity be trimmed and refinished easy enough with common wood working tools. A guy on Rimfirecentral.com can give you a trigger in ounces. Richards Microfit might have alternative stocks tho I would modify the stock as I said. I had one untill I got a 40x and would buy another in a minute. What guys do is buy more than one, keep the favorite and sell the rest. Of what I see on RimfireCentral your chances of getting a really rusty one are small
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jim,
Why do you think the sticker represents group size? I have never heard this before.</div></div>
I asked the guys at CMP what the numbers written on the stickers were and they said group size in mm at 50 yd. As to whether this was a single group or an average of several and as to whether this was shot the Kimber factory for QC or by the military to verify that the guns met spec I have no idea.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jim,
Why do you think the sticker represents group size? I have never heard this before.</div></div>
I asked the guys at CMP what the numbers written on the stickers were and they said group size in mm at 50 yd. As to whether this was a single group or an average of several and as to whether this was shot the Kimber factory for QC or by the military to verify that the guns met spec I have no idea.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
From what I can tell, based on the Kimber 82G that I just received, the "rust" is nothing more than dried preservative. You find that when cleaning the rifle, the preservative will turn everything yellow (I used mineral spirits). Here is a short unboxing video I made of my kimber. The worst part about the deal was the cut, and it was minimal. I can say, that after a thorough cleaning, including a bolt break-down, my rifle was rust free. Is this indicative of the whole lot? No, but reports from other buyers are reporting pretty much the same think, zero to no rust. What is being perceived as rust is actually the dried preservative...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZJe8dS4HLI&feature=youtu.be
From what I can tell, based on the Kimber 82G that I just received, the "rust" is nothing more than dried preservative. You find that when cleaning the rifle, the preservative will turn everything yellow (I used mineral spirits). Here is a short unboxing video I made of my kimber. The worst part about the deal was the cut, and it was minimal. I can say, that after a thorough cleaning, including a bolt break-down, my rifle was rust free. Is this indicative of the whole lot? No, but reports from other buyers are reporting pretty much the same think, zero to no rust. What is being perceived as rust is actually the dried preservative...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZJe8dS4HLI&feature=youtu.be
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJimFish</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jim,
Why do you think the sticker represents group size? I have never heard this before.</div></div>
I asked the guys at CMP what the numbers written on the stickers were and they said group size in mm at 50 yd. As to whether this was a single group or an average of several and as to whether this was shot the Kimber factory for QC or by the military to verify that the guns met spec I have no idea. </div></div>
Jim,
I believe that's what they told you, but I think they were telling you a story. Try weighing your rifles and see how close they get to that number. From what I found looking around, it is the weight. I don't think they were measuring group size in mm back then.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJimFish</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jim,
Why do you think the sticker represents group size? I have never heard this before.</div></div>
I asked the guys at CMP what the numbers written on the stickers were and they said group size in mm at 50 yd. As to whether this was a single group or an average of several and as to whether this was shot the Kimber factory for QC or by the military to verify that the guns met spec I have no idea. </div></div>
Jim,
I believe that's what they told you, but I think they were telling you a story. Try weighing your rifles and see how close they get to that number. From what I found looking around, it is the weight. I don't think they were measuring group size in mm back then.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dantrom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I sure do like mine!
By the way USMCCHET9296. Very nice shooting! I have never mounted the irons but they seem extremely nice. </div></div>
Thanks Man
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dantrom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I sure do like mine!
By the way USMCCHET9296. Very nice shooting! I have never mounted the irons but they seem extremely nice. </div></div>
Thanks Man
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
I have another 82 on order at the CMP. Gonna throw a Weaver T series scope on it, modify the stock to a bench stock and see how it shoots.
I have another 82 on order at the CMP. Gonna throw a Weaver T series scope on it, modify the stock to a bench stock and see how it shoots.
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I must apologize up front, the video is rather long and boring, and my dog barks insistantly through much of it. But I did have a lot of fun shooting this rifle. Since these were my first shots, and the barrel was just begining to get broke in, all targets are at 25-yards. One of the targets I used contains four small targets in the corner of an 8.5 X 11 sheet of paper. The black center was but a dot at 25-yards... I wanted to see how well I could hold center...
Here is the video, and again... sorry for the doggie... she is my toughest critic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q-qsFIwunc&feature=youtu.be
I must apologize up front, the video is rather long and boring, and my dog barks insistantly through much of it. But I did have a lot of fun shooting this rifle. Since these were my first shots, and the barrel was just begining to get broke in, all targets are at 25-yards. One of the targets I used contains four small targets in the corner of an 8.5 X 11 sheet of paper. The black center was but a dot at 25-yards... I wanted to see how well I could hold center...
Here is the video, and again... sorry for the doggie... she is my toughest critic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q-qsFIwunc&feature=youtu.be
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jim,
I believe that's what they told you, but I think they were telling you a story. Try weighing your rifles and see how close they get to that number. From what I found looking around, it is the weight. I don't think they were measuring group size in mm back then.</div></div>
Well that is a very interesting thought that you have there. I don't have a scale that will measure with enough precision an object of that weight to be able to test the thought though. My postal scale won't go above about 4 lbs and the bathroom scale really isn't any better than +- 2 lbs. When I tested the rifles at the range Friday they did actually end up with the relative accuracies that the stickers predicted they would assuming the stickers meant that. However, since the numbers on the sticker were not even close to the measured results (at 50 yards anyhow) I think that this was probably simple chance.
About that testing, I used CCI STD Velocity, Eley Sport, and SK Standard Plus for the testing. I chose these because I can afford to shoot them regularly and they are the best shootign stuff I can say that about. Each ammo got five, five shot groups per rifle at 50 yards (To be honest it may have been more like 55 yards, it is kind of hard to tell at the range I go to.) I threw out the furthest outlying shot of the 25 blaming it on the admittedly mid shelf fodder. I then averaged the four resulting five shot groups and one four shot group to get the numbers for each rifle for each ammo. Here are the results:
Rifle 1
Eley Sport .576", CCI std .648", SK .87"
Rifle 2
SK .576", CCI std .756", Eley Sport .766"
Rifle 3
Eley sport .65", SK .778", CCI .80"
Rifle 4
SK .59", Eley sport .77", CCI std. .92"
While I was not totally blown away at first with the Kimbers groups, I shot a group after all of these with my Annie 54 and it was on the better side of the represented groups but not the best. I think that the 54 may have some bedding issues but the Kimbers aren't bedded either and their stocks have had 30 years to warp. Performing on par with a 54, even on a bad day, has to be to their credit.
One last note, 2 of the 4 rifles would not strike the primer hard enough to reliably fire the cartridge when using their own bolts. I ended up using the bolt from the most reliable gun for these two. Even that reliable bolt did not strike the primers as hard as I would have liked. The simple fact is that the firing pin springs in all 4 rifles are old no longer sufficient. I think they were all stored cocked. I expect that this is true for many if not most of the CMP guns. A new $10 replacement will be necessary for these rifles.
Here is the best looking target of the day.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jim,
I believe that's what they told you, but I think they were telling you a story. Try weighing your rifles and see how close they get to that number. From what I found looking around, it is the weight. I don't think they were measuring group size in mm back then.</div></div>
Well that is a very interesting thought that you have there. I don't have a scale that will measure with enough precision an object of that weight to be able to test the thought though. My postal scale won't go above about 4 lbs and the bathroom scale really isn't any better than +- 2 lbs. When I tested the rifles at the range Friday they did actually end up with the relative accuracies that the stickers predicted they would assuming the stickers meant that. However, since the numbers on the sticker were not even close to the measured results (at 50 yards anyhow) I think that this was probably simple chance.
About that testing, I used CCI STD Velocity, Eley Sport, and SK Standard Plus for the testing. I chose these because I can afford to shoot them regularly and they are the best shootign stuff I can say that about. Each ammo got five, five shot groups per rifle at 50 yards (To be honest it may have been more like 55 yards, it is kind of hard to tell at the range I go to.) I threw out the furthest outlying shot of the 25 blaming it on the admittedly mid shelf fodder. I then averaged the four resulting five shot groups and one four shot group to get the numbers for each rifle for each ammo. Here are the results:
Rifle 1
Eley Sport .576", CCI std .648", SK .87"
Rifle 2
SK .576", CCI std .756", Eley Sport .766"
Rifle 3
Eley sport .65", SK .778", CCI .80"
Rifle 4
SK .59", Eley sport .77", CCI std. .92"
While I was not totally blown away at first with the Kimbers groups, I shot a group after all of these with my Annie 54 and it was on the better side of the represented groups but not the best. I think that the 54 may have some bedding issues but the Kimbers aren't bedded either and their stocks have had 30 years to warp. Performing on par with a 54, even on a bad day, has to be to their credit.
One last note, 2 of the 4 rifles would not strike the primer hard enough to reliably fire the cartridge when using their own bolts. I ended up using the bolt from the most reliable gun for these two. Even that reliable bolt did not strike the primers as hard as I would have liked. The simple fact is that the firing pin springs in all 4 rifles are old no longer sufficient. I think they were all stored cocked. I expect that this is true for many if not most of the CMP guns. A new $10 replacement will be necessary for these rifles.
Here is the best looking target of the day.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
I have one that I have shot the shit out of and another on the way for the purpose of keeping original and modifying my first one. The screw in the bolt is a high wear part that needs replacement often. I don't have pictures here with me but as soon as you put a few thousand rounds through yours you'll know exactly what I am talking about. Mine has won several 50/50 matches at our local club in full stock config. I shoot tons of 22lr and have good supply of several different types of match quality ammo. Mine won't shoot much less than .75 inch at 100 yards but I have had several 5 shot groups with it at 200 that hovered around an inch on a really calm day. Slightest breeze opened this up drastically however. I wouldn't sell one of my kimbers if you offered me twice what I payed for them and people have at the ranges I visit.
I have one that I have shot the shit out of and another on the way for the purpose of keeping original and modifying my first one. The screw in the bolt is a high wear part that needs replacement often. I don't have pictures here with me but as soon as you put a few thousand rounds through yours you'll know exactly what I am talking about. Mine has won several 50/50 matches at our local club in full stock config. I shoot tons of 22lr and have good supply of several different types of match quality ammo. Mine won't shoot much less than .75 inch at 100 yards but I have had several 5 shot groups with it at 200 that hovered around an inch on a really calm day. Slightest breeze opened this up drastically however. I wouldn't sell one of my kimbers if you offered me twice what I payed for them and people have at the ranges I visit.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
Just for clarification, the stickers are known to be the weight of the rifle, and have nothing to do with accuracy.
The "star" marked rifles are the .3" accuracy guarantee samples, most of which went to civilian sales.
Just for clarification, the stickers are known to be the weight of the rifle, and have nothing to do with accuracy.
The "star" marked rifles are the .3" accuracy guarantee samples, most of which went to civilian sales.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJimFish</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jim,
Why do you think the sticker represents group size? I have never heard this before.</div></div>
I asked the guys at CMP what the numbers written on the stickers were and they said group size in mm at 50 yd. As to whether this was a single group or an average of several and as to whether this was shot the Kimber factory for QC or by the military to verify that the guns met spec I have no idea. </div></div>
The sticker being a group size is a myth, the sticker is the weight of rifle
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJimFish</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jim,
Why do you think the sticker represents group size? I have never heard this before.</div></div>
I asked the guys at CMP what the numbers written on the stickers were and they said group size in mm at 50 yd. As to whether this was a single group or an average of several and as to whether this was shot the Kimber factory for QC or by the military to verify that the guns met spec I have no idea. </div></div>
The sticker being a group size is a myth, the sticker is the weight of rifle
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The sticker being a group size is a myth, the sticker is the weight of rifle</div></div>
That looks like good evidence to me Orlando. Wish they would not have misinformed me, I would have ended up with some prettier stocks.
On another note, replacing the firing pin springs did not fix the light primer strikes on these rifles. Actually, the new springs appear to have a little less pop than the factory. The factory sprigs were definitely still fine. After measuring the firing pin protrusion I found. .026" .027" and .0315" on the three rifles I measured. These numbers are either below spec or barely in spec. I carefully changed the protrusion on two of the rifles to .035" and .036" by removing some material on the face of the striker. Tomorrow I will get a chance to test this out. I expect that ignition will be reliable and I also hope for some positive effect on group size.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The sticker being a group size is a myth, the sticker is the weight of rifle</div></div>
That looks like good evidence to me Orlando. Wish they would not have misinformed me, I would have ended up with some prettier stocks.
On another note, replacing the firing pin springs did not fix the light primer strikes on these rifles. Actually, the new springs appear to have a little less pop than the factory. The factory sprigs were definitely still fine. After measuring the firing pin protrusion I found. .026" .027" and .0315" on the three rifles I measured. These numbers are either below spec or barely in spec. I carefully changed the protrusion on two of the rifles to .035" and .036" by removing some material on the face of the striker. Tomorrow I will get a chance to test this out. I expect that ignition will be reliable and I also hope for some positive effect on group size.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
I don't post here much anymore for lack of time but since I got a free plug I'll add a few thoughts. The Kimber 82G is a fine rifle for its cost. It could not be made for that money now, that's for sure. The cocking screw is a weak point as it wears and will cause problems after some time. The screw is a left hand thread and you can buy replacements from Gun Parts Corp. The stock is not a proper bench rest stock but some type of over sized free style or running boar competition style stock. Plus side is there is more than enough wood to do all kinds of garage mods to it. Most stocks are Turkist Walnut with some of the last ones in American Beech. The ejector is a small projection on the feed tray and is easy to break. the feed tray is held in with one small flat tip screw. Replace this with an Allen head panhead screw as soon as you can and remove the tray each time you clean the rifle. Now remember this is a target rifle so you should be using lubricated target grade ammo and you'll only need to clean the rifle for storage at the end of the shooting season, I.E. once a year. Most of the rust reports are BS. the storage grease or what every Kimber used dries out to a yellow/orange color. The bores are dirty when you get a new rifle. Clean it and you should have a nice shiny bore. Now there are a few parts of the bolt that were left in the white. I've seen some rust on these parts but a little gun oil and four O steel wool will clean that up. Wolf seems to shoot in every one of these I've owned or seen shot. SK Jadg is the same as Wolf, SK makes wolf. Wolf MT seems to shoot as good or better that the ME so save your money and Buy Match Target (MT). I know of a good dozen or so guys still shooting these in matches but a 40X or 52C/D in equal shape will shoot better. Most reports of the Kimber being as good as the other rifles are comparing a new Kimber to a rifles used and shot for years by training units and ROTC's. Allot of the 52 and 40x rifles were not cleaned for years or cleaned with M16 sectional rod's. Cut off the last 4 inches of barrel on these well used guns and the Kimber is in trouble. I've never lost to a stock Kimber using my stock 40X in twenty years. The Kimber badly needs a trigger job and glass bedding and then it's really begins to become a true match rifle. Both are an easy job even for the home hobbyist gun smith. One thing to remember however is the trigger housing is aluminum and the three adjustment screws for over travel, trigger weight and shear engagement are locked by two lock screws each, that's six lock screws. You have to loosen all six or you'll damage the housing, and the housings are no longer made. Many Kimbers need a new crown as well. This is best left to a machinist. the guys that tell you to use lapping compound and a brass screw to grind in a new crown do not shoot against national level competitors. enough said about that. Feel free to email me with any questions as I'm sure I've left out allot data. All the best, Donald
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DFOOSKING</div><div class="ubbcode-body">HIDE member Don in SC used to post on here regularly.
He had posted lots of Kimbers on here he'd buy, cleanup, and shoot.
Use the search engine on the right hand side of the page....maybe you'll find some of his posts.
I'm told Kimber Government rifles where decent but they arent 40X or 52 accurate. </div></div>
I don't post here much anymore for lack of time but since I got a free plug I'll add a few thoughts. The Kimber 82G is a fine rifle for its cost. It could not be made for that money now, that's for sure. The cocking screw is a weak point as it wears and will cause problems after some time. The screw is a left hand thread and you can buy replacements from Gun Parts Corp. The stock is not a proper bench rest stock but some type of over sized free style or running boar competition style stock. Plus side is there is more than enough wood to do all kinds of garage mods to it. Most stocks are Turkist Walnut with some of the last ones in American Beech. The ejector is a small projection on the feed tray and is easy to break. the feed tray is held in with one small flat tip screw. Replace this with an Allen head panhead screw as soon as you can and remove the tray each time you clean the rifle. Now remember this is a target rifle so you should be using lubricated target grade ammo and you'll only need to clean the rifle for storage at the end of the shooting season, I.E. once a year. Most of the rust reports are BS. the storage grease or what every Kimber used dries out to a yellow/orange color. The bores are dirty when you get a new rifle. Clean it and you should have a nice shiny bore. Now there are a few parts of the bolt that were left in the white. I've seen some rust on these parts but a little gun oil and four O steel wool will clean that up. Wolf seems to shoot in every one of these I've owned or seen shot. SK Jadg is the same as Wolf, SK makes wolf. Wolf MT seems to shoot as good or better that the ME so save your money and Buy Match Target (MT). I know of a good dozen or so guys still shooting these in matches but a 40X or 52C/D in equal shape will shoot better. Most reports of the Kimber being as good as the other rifles are comparing a new Kimber to a rifles used and shot for years by training units and ROTC's. Allot of the 52 and 40x rifles were not cleaned for years or cleaned with M16 sectional rod's. Cut off the last 4 inches of barrel on these well used guns and the Kimber is in trouble. I've never lost to a stock Kimber using my stock 40X in twenty years. The Kimber badly needs a trigger job and glass bedding and then it's really begins to become a true match rifle. Both are an easy job even for the home hobbyist gun smith. One thing to remember however is the trigger housing is aluminum and the three adjustment screws for over travel, trigger weight and shear engagement are locked by two lock screws each, that's six lock screws. You have to loosen all six or you'll damage the housing, and the housings are no longer made. Many Kimbers need a new crown as well. This is best left to a machinist. the guys that tell you to use lapping compound and a brass screw to grind in a new crown do not shoot against national level competitors. enough said about that. Feel free to email me with any questions as I'm sure I've left out allot data. All the best, Donald
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DFOOSKING</div><div class="ubbcode-body">HIDE member Don in SC used to post on here regularly.
He had posted lots of Kimbers on here he'd buy, cleanup, and shoot.
Use the search engine on the right hand side of the page....maybe you'll find some of his posts.
I'm told Kimber Government rifles where decent but they arent 40X or 52 accurate. </div></div>
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DFOOSKING</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Orlando</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great accurate rifles, I have two.
One stock
And one slightly modified
</div></div>
That modified one looks fantastic. One day I will have one and I'll remember this. </div></div>
Thats the actual Kimber factory stock that was modified
Heres pics of it with a Bloop Tube before I installed the scope
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DFOOSKING</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Orlando</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great accurate rifles, I have two.
One stock
And one slightly modified
That modified one looks fantastic. One day I will have one and I'll remember this. </div></div>
Thats the actual Kimber factory stock that was modified
Heres pics of it with a Bloop Tube before I installed the scope
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
I have continued to test and practice with the Kimber 82G. It performed well in a 3position match last week and really surprised me when I fed it some Eley Match. I did not expect it to shoot much better with the Match than with mid grade fodder like Wolf. I figured that the lack of a hand lapped barrel and sharp crown would really prevent groups anywhere near those I have done with my Anschutz 54 but it performed just as well as the 54. These Kimber 82's are very accurate and well suited for a beginning 3 position rifle out of the box. Check out the 50 yard Eley Match test target.
I have continued to test and practice with the Kimber 82G. It performed well in a 3position match last week and really surprised me when I fed it some Eley Match. I did not expect it to shoot much better with the Match than with mid grade fodder like Wolf. I figured that the lack of a hand lapped barrel and sharp crown would really prevent groups anywhere near those I have done with my Anschutz 54 but it performed just as well as the 54. These Kimber 82's are very accurate and well suited for a beginning 3 position rifle out of the box. Check out the 50 yard Eley Match test target.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
Finally a target with the ammo type on it. I will have to look into Eley Match now, thank you.
Finally a target with the ammo type on it. I will have to look into Eley Match now, thank you.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
I am buying one of these tomorrow and really hope i like it. Just need to figure out whether to scope or peep site it.
I am buying one of these tomorrow and really hope i like it. Just need to figure out whether to scope or peep site it.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MK75</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Finally a target with the ammo type on it. I will have to look into Eley Match now, thank you. </div></div>
Every rifle is alittle different. I wouldnt buy alot of one brand until you try it.
A cheaper ammo to try that wont break the bank is Wolf Match Extra .
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MK75</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Finally a target with the ammo type on it. I will have to look into Eley Match now, thank you. </div></div>
Every rifle is alittle different. I wouldnt buy alot of one brand until you try it.
A cheaper ammo to try that wont break the bank is Wolf Match Extra .
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
I am surprised so many like wolf, from a handgun perspective they aren't even allowed at my range since they use steel casing. I have never tried them however, but this may be one I pick up for testing.
I am surprised so many like wolf, from a handgun perspective they aren't even allowed at my range since they use steel casing. I have never tried them however, but this may be one I pick up for testing.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shootnjunky</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am surprised so many like wolf, from a handgun perspective they aren't even allowed at my range since they use steel casing. I have never tried them however, but this may be one I pick up for testing. </div></div>
This is not the same junk Wolf steel cased ammo you are thinking of
It is Match 22 ammo, very accurate
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shootnjunky</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am surprised so many like wolf, from a handgun perspective they aren't even allowed at my range since they use steel casing. I have never tried them however, but this may be one I pick up for testing. </div></div>
This is not the same junk Wolf steel cased ammo you are thinking of
It is Match 22 ammo, very accurate
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Finally a target with the ammo type on it. I will have to look into Eley Match now, thank you.</div></div>
Well if you like that here are a few more to keep in mind. I shot this group with $45 a brick fed 711b. I'm not convinced that most lots of 711b will do this, American makers seem to be very sloppy when it comes to lot to lot variations but this lot hit it out of the park and so I bought all that they had which unfortunately was only one brick. I recently had some Winchester T-22 that shot in the low .4's at 50 yards in my Anschutz. I went back to buy some more and got a different lot. It shot around 1.1" I say around because who can tell with those big ass groups. I have had similar experiences in the past with Federal.
What I usually shoot out of the 82g is Eley sport (which is actually Aguila bullets and powder with Eley cases and primer.) I have tried a few lots of this and it is reliably in the .5's at 50 yards. This is good for an ammo that goes for $30 a brick.
I have also tried the following ammo that I don't currently use because it didn't shoot well enough, or more to the point, well enough for the price.
CCI STD Velocity paper box - This is probably the best deal on cci ammo at about $28 a brick but it simply doesn't average as well as Eley Sport. In three of the four rifles I have tested Eley bested CCI. CCI is not a bad value and well worth the try if you can find paper boxes to test as your gun may have a taste for it. I should note that CCI in the plastic box offers you absolutely nothing for the extra $12 a brick.
SK standard plus and or Wolf standard plus - Many many folks have had good results with this. I heard someone even won nationals not long ago. I think I got a bad lot and I will probably try it again later. The lot I got shoots neck and neck with Eley sport but at $50 a brick instead of $30. I'd say worth a try but apparently it is pretty lot sensitive. Maybe some Americans snuck over to Germany and taught them how to be inconsistent.
Eley Target - This is the cheapest stuff completely made in England by Eley at $60 a brick. I think Remington also imports the stuff if you prefer to have the Remington name on the box. In my opinion that is the only option if you want ammo that says Remington on the box and shoots straight as all the Remington made rimfire I have tried has been the worst of the worst. As for the Eley Target, it shoots fine but only very slightly better than Wolf or Eley Sport. I'm really not convinced it adds up to $60 a brick though I may try the Eley Club (same bullet as target next notch up at $75 a brick.) perhaps it can deliver a better cost / performance.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Finally a target with the ammo type on it. I will have to look into Eley Match now, thank you.</div></div>
Well if you like that here are a few more to keep in mind. I shot this group with $45 a brick fed 711b. I'm not convinced that most lots of 711b will do this, American makers seem to be very sloppy when it comes to lot to lot variations but this lot hit it out of the park and so I bought all that they had which unfortunately was only one brick. I recently had some Winchester T-22 that shot in the low .4's at 50 yards in my Anschutz. I went back to buy some more and got a different lot. It shot around 1.1" I say around because who can tell with those big ass groups. I have had similar experiences in the past with Federal.
What I usually shoot out of the 82g is Eley sport (which is actually Aguila bullets and powder with Eley cases and primer.) I have tried a few lots of this and it is reliably in the .5's at 50 yards. This is good for an ammo that goes for $30 a brick.
I have also tried the following ammo that I don't currently use because it didn't shoot well enough, or more to the point, well enough for the price.
CCI STD Velocity paper box - This is probably the best deal on cci ammo at about $28 a brick but it simply doesn't average as well as Eley Sport. In three of the four rifles I have tested Eley bested CCI. CCI is not a bad value and well worth the try if you can find paper boxes to test as your gun may have a taste for it. I should note that CCI in the plastic box offers you absolutely nothing for the extra $12 a brick.
SK standard plus and or Wolf standard plus - Many many folks have had good results with this. I heard someone even won nationals not long ago. I think I got a bad lot and I will probably try it again later. The lot I got shoots neck and neck with Eley sport but at $50 a brick instead of $30. I'd say worth a try but apparently it is pretty lot sensitive. Maybe some Americans snuck over to Germany and taught them how to be inconsistent.
Eley Target - This is the cheapest stuff completely made in England by Eley at $60 a brick. I think Remington also imports the stuff if you prefer to have the Remington name on the box. In my opinion that is the only option if you want ammo that says Remington on the box and shoots straight as all the Remington made rimfire I have tried has been the worst of the worst. As for the Eley Target, it shoots fine but only very slightly better than Wolf or Eley Sport. I'm really not convinced it adds up to $60 a brick though I may try the Eley Club (same bullet as target next notch up at $75 a brick.) perhaps it can deliver a better cost / performance.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
So Can someone please share the mounts needed to mount a scope to an 82. I can't seem to find one specifically.
So Can someone please share the mounts needed to mount a scope to an 82. I can't seem to find one specifically.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
If your talking about mounting to the receiver just use some B-Square dovetail to weaver adapter bases and what ever rings you like. If looking for barrel bases check brownells/sinclaire or champion's choice you might have to measure hole spacing and figure out what height you need before ordering.
If your talking about mounting to the receiver just use some B-Square dovetail to weaver adapter bases and what ever rings you like. If looking for barrel bases check brownells/sinclaire or champion's choice you might have to measure hole spacing and figure out what height you need before ordering.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So Can someone please share the mounts needed to mount a scope to an 82. I can't seem to find one specifically.</div></div>
I have these. They come in medium or high depending on how big your objective bell is. Unfortunately, they only come in 1" tube sizes. If you have a 30mm scope I think that Kelbly rings are the best. I have a set of those as well. They are the most precise rings I have ever had and I have had some high end Badger and Seekins stuff. You must tell Kelbly when you are ordering that the rings are for an 11mm Anschutz grooved receiver as there is an extra machining step they do for them. Other ring options exist but I think these two are best. The important thing to remember is that the receiver has the same rail dimensions (11mm and domed) as an Anschutz.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So Can someone please share the mounts needed to mount a scope to an 82. I can't seem to find one specifically.</div></div>
I have these. They come in medium or high depending on how big your objective bell is. Unfortunately, they only come in 1" tube sizes. If you have a 30mm scope I think that Kelbly rings are the best. I have a set of those as well. They are the most precise rings I have ever had and I have had some high end Badger and Seekins stuff. You must tell Kelbly when you are ordering that the rings are for an 11mm Anschutz grooved receiver as there is an extra machining step they do for them. Other ring options exist but I think these two are best. The important thing to remember is that the receiver has the same rail dimensions (11mm and domed) as an Anschutz.
Re: Kimber Model 82 G...Anybody?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boydo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have one of these Kimber model 82 government model rifles? I have seen some on gunbroker and they are drawing my interest as a trainer rifle. They have the iron sights and a big benchrest stock, but does anyone make aftermarket stocks for them? How do they compare to a Winchester 52 or a 40X? </div></div>
I don't have an 82G, but I have a Kimber Model 82 "A" Cascade Sporter (Repeater) version of the action used in the Model 82G. It's not a direct comparison because the 82Gs' were built as military trainers and were tested and supplied with peep sights, while all of the Model 82 Sporters were designed as small game hunting rifles and were tested with 36X Leupold BR scopes and guaranteed to shoot .400" CTC or better at 50 yards (RWS Dynamit Nobel R-50 was used). I do know that all of my Model 82 Sporters are very accurate as well as being beautiful, natural "pointers".
I don't know of any company that makes stocks specifically for the Kimber Model 82G (single shot) action, so you have two options: (a) modify an existing 82G stock, or (b) have a custom stock made for it (expensive, time-consuming, and cost-inefficient). All three generations of the Model 82 Sporters use a different trigger and bottom metal design from that of the 82G, so while it's possible to find original Model 82A, 82B, and 82C Sporter stocks none of them come close to being able to fit an 82G. Personally, I would buy a Sporter. The Sporters' are more expensive out-of-the-box but their accuracy is a known quantity, they're repeaters, they're more refined and have better ergonomics, and they're pretty to look at.
<span style="font-style: italic">Kimber of Oregon Model 82A "Cascade":</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Kimber Model 82B "Classic", PMII 5-25X 0.1 MIL Gen 2 XR CCW + 2" USO ARD, NEAR rings, and Murphy Precision Two Piece Base:</span></span>
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Kimber Model 82C "Super Classic":</span></span>
Keith
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boydo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have one of these Kimber model 82 government model rifles? I have seen some on gunbroker and they are drawing my interest as a trainer rifle. They have the iron sights and a big benchrest stock, but does anyone make aftermarket stocks for them? How do they compare to a Winchester 52 or a 40X? </div></div>
I don't have an 82G, but I have a Kimber Model 82 "A" Cascade Sporter (Repeater) version of the action used in the Model 82G. It's not a direct comparison because the 82Gs' were built as military trainers and were tested and supplied with peep sights, while all of the Model 82 Sporters were designed as small game hunting rifles and were tested with 36X Leupold BR scopes and guaranteed to shoot .400" CTC or better at 50 yards (RWS Dynamit Nobel R-50 was used). I do know that all of my Model 82 Sporters are very accurate as well as being beautiful, natural "pointers".
I don't know of any company that makes stocks specifically for the Kimber Model 82G (single shot) action, so you have two options: (a) modify an existing 82G stock, or (b) have a custom stock made for it (expensive, time-consuming, and cost-inefficient). All three generations of the Model 82 Sporters use a different trigger and bottom metal design from that of the 82G, so while it's possible to find original Model 82A, 82B, and 82C Sporter stocks none of them come close to being able to fit an 82G. Personally, I would buy a Sporter. The Sporters' are more expensive out-of-the-box but their accuracy is a known quantity, they're repeaters, they're more refined and have better ergonomics, and they're pretty to look at.
<span style="font-style: italic">Kimber of Oregon Model 82A "Cascade":</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Kimber Model 82B "Classic", PMII 5-25X 0.1 MIL Gen 2 XR CCW + 2" USO ARD, NEAR rings, and Murphy Precision Two Piece Base:</span></span>
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Kimber Model 82C "Super Classic":</span></span>
Keith
Your friend is out to lunch. They are brand new for $425 from the CMP and you can pick yours out if you live near one of the two locations in OH or, I think, GA? Even if you just order one though most are rust free and all are new old stock. If your friend is in need of cash he can sell you his for what the going rate is not for what they would cost if the Govt. wasn't blowing them out. If he wants $800 he will have to wait 3 or 4 years when the supply dries up and they will be worth that. Your buddies might be worth $500 if you don't live near a CMP location and want to skip the shipping and risk of getting one with rust but I wouldn't pay more than that.
As for if you should get one. Yes, they shoot great and cost very little. Not a real hard decision there.
If you can buy it from the cmp they are definitely worth it and they shoot very good if you find the right ammo.
I Have a stock duplicator and I did a tri-color laminate one for his 82G. I made another copy for myself to have as a master. I have actually had people want the stock with no inletting so they could inlet it for some other action. I think it is a good stock for lots of rimfire applications.
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