I was wondering if anyone is using an SBR for home defense? If so which bullet/ammo are you using? I have a LWRC 8.5" 5.56 PSD upper that I am planning to use it for HD. This is probably too short for 5.56 to fragment so which bullet would be good? Any one has experience with 55 grain Zmax? would it still be too explosive with an 8.5" SBR?
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Yikes, that sounds like a great way to lose your hearing and temporarily blind yourself..
Yikes, that sounds like a great way to lose your hearing and temporarily blind yourself..
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It is suppressed.
It is suppressed.
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Maybe other varmint rounds that expand or fragment quickly?
Maybe other varmint rounds that expand or fragment quickly?
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50gr Barnes TSX seems to be a nice round for SBR's. I plan to get some of these in the near future to try out.
50gr Barnes TSX seems to be a nice round for SBR's. I plan to get some of these in the near future to try out.
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I used a TC Contender for years in .223. (10” single shot pistol). There are 52 gr. soft points that are produced by Hornady to work and open up at short barrel velocities. If you reload, a 60 gr. Nosler Partition works wonders on coyotes and did not over penetrate out of my Contender. Barnes X bullets tend to; penetrate straight, have rapid energy transfer, and open up at low velocity. Your barrel’s twist rate may need to factor into your options.
I used a TC Contender for years in .223. (10” single shot pistol). There are 52 gr. soft points that are produced by Hornady to work and open up at short barrel velocities. If you reload, a 60 gr. Nosler Partition works wonders on coyotes and did not over penetrate out of my Contender. Barnes X bullets tend to; penetrate straight, have rapid energy transfer, and open up at low velocity. Your barrel’s twist rate may need to factor into your options.
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Im using 55gn dogtown bullets in my 7.5" and they do fine.
Im using 55gn dogtown bullets in my 7.5" and they do fine.
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50 Grain TSX should do very well, I mean your looking at taking a shot inside no more then 12 yards probably?
At 10-12 yards it should still retain most of it's muzzle velocity.
Even suppressed, it will still be very loud and unless they are using a very good flash propellent, it will still be bright, even with suppressor.
This may sound odd and unconventional but if you do plan to use a SBR for HD, then what about keeping a set of high grade/dollar ear protection with it. The electronic muffs I use amplify ambient sound which could be useful while searching your home for intruders, but the muffs then block any sound above 85 decibels, such as gun shots. To me, the amplifying of ambient sound such as voices discussing their intent or helping the identification of an unknown individual in the house is worth it's weight in gold. I mean it's not the worst idea.
50 Grain TSX should do very well, I mean your looking at taking a shot inside no more then 12 yards probably?
At 10-12 yards it should still retain most of it's muzzle velocity.
Even suppressed, it will still be very loud and unless they are using a very good flash propellent, it will still be bright, even with suppressor.
This may sound odd and unconventional but if you do plan to use a SBR for HD, then what about keeping a set of high grade/dollar ear protection with it. The electronic muffs I use amplify ambient sound which could be useful while searching your home for intruders, but the muffs then block any sound above 85 decibels, such as gun shots. To me, the amplifying of ambient sound such as voices discussing their intent or helping the identification of an unknown individual in the house is worth it's weight in gold. I mean it's not the worst idea.
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Pusher591 said:
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I do have some 75 grain Hornady TAP. It would be interested to see how some rounds fair with SBR's.
I do have some 75 grain Hornady TAP. It would be interested to see how some rounds fair with SBR's.
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Velocities are going to be extremely low, personally, I don't see the sense of a barrel less than 10.5" in a 5.56.
I would consider the winchester white box 45 grain varmint load.
The low velocities will allow it to penetrate, but it should still fragment.
Velocities are going to be extremely low, personally, I don't see the sense of a barrel less than 10.5" in a 5.56.
I would consider the winchester white box 45 grain varmint load.
The low velocities will allow it to penetrate, but it should still fragment.
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I doubt his suppressed 5.56 is any louder than most handguns or shotguns that are unsuppressed and how many thousands of those are sitting in nightstands across the country . An SBR or pistol AR suppressed certainly gives you a whole lot more ammo than most any other options but loud and fire ball are a part of any of these equations regardless of what you choose .
I doubt his suppressed 5.56 is any louder than most handguns or shotguns that are unsuppressed and how many thousands of those are sitting in nightstands across the country . An SBR or pistol AR suppressed certainly gives you a whole lot more ammo than most any other options but loud and fire ball are a part of any of these equations regardless of what you choose .
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Rprecision said:
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I switched over to a Blackout and use the 110gr TSX, but if I went back to a 5.56 it would be with the 75gr TAP T2 or 50gr Barnes TSX, both 5.56 loads.
Sean
I switched over to a Blackout and use the 110gr TSX, but if I went back to a 5.56 it would be with the 75gr TAP T2 or 50gr Barnes TSX, both 5.56 loads.
Sean
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I use my 7.5" suppressed & is not bad at all. The 55gn soft points are running 2040 and mushroom well at 40yrds. Just sayn
I use my 7.5" suppressed & is not bad at all. The 55gn soft points are running 2040 and mushroom well at 40yrds. Just sayn
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My 10.5" 1/7 Noveske barrel loves 75gr Hornady rounds, they have slightly more recoil but alot of energy transfer on the target. I haven't tested them for penetration yet though.
As far as a suppressor, my M4-2000 is just loud enough in an open field to ring my ears. In a home defense situation I hope I have enough time to get some electric earmuffs on.
My 10.5" 1/7 Noveske barrel loves 75gr Hornady rounds, they have slightly more recoil but alot of energy transfer on the target. I haven't tested them for penetration yet though.
As far as a suppressor, my M4-2000 is just loud enough in an open field to ring my ears. In a home defense situation I hope I have enough time to get some electric earmuffs on.
