Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

[Nostradumbass]

I've got a 408 cheytac coming, and I'm wanting to go ahead and buy some components.
I've never shot solids, and I heard they foul the barrel enough to cause accuracy degradation after 10-20 rounds. Rocky Mountain bullets makes a lead jacketed bullet, but the BC isn't as high as some of the solids.....so there's my problem.

Also, is it possible to extend barrel life by shooting jackets over solids?

Thanks for your time,
Phillip

 

[Augustus]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

I've shot the CE solids and other banded solids from the 375 with no fouling problems. The Lost River solids developed a reputation of excessive fouling but I have no first hand experience with them. I have shot around 300 of the CE solids and usually clean after forty to fifty rds. I never witnessed any accuracy problems.

I don't know if CE stocks 408 projectiles but they did cut some for a customer. I talked with this individual and he was very pleased with them.

You can call Cutting Edge Bullets and Dan will probably fix you up.

Every projectile manufacturer seems to take liberty with their BC numbers until they get into the hands of unbiased shooters, then reality sets in and the numbers are revised. Even the numbers on the Berger 338 was advertised as .91 or so and now has been revised by almost 10 percent.

 

[Kiwi Greg]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

I have fired heaps of CE 375 projectiles, 330,350,375,377,400,402&425 grain.
I'm very happy with them & fouling isn't an issue once the barrel has settled down.
Accuracy is fantastic as far as I've seen.
The BCs seem to be there or there abouts, a lot closer than a few of the others I've shot.
They make 408, here is a link.

https://cuttingedgebullets.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=1408

 

[wadcutter]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

Kiwi Greg,

What is the best Cuttingedge bullet you have used out of your .375CT?

 

[Dogtown]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

FWIW, the .375CT ammo DTM is selling uses the 352gr CE bullet. Apparently Russ got really good results with it.

 

[Kiwi Greg]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wadcutter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kiwi Greg,

What is the best Cuttingedge bullet you have used out of your .375CT? </div></div>

Im currently useing both the 350s & 425s go figure, each end of the scale.

They both shoot very well in my 375 DCM, so does the 400/402.

I haven't tried the 375/377 enough to comment.

 

[Nostradumbass]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kiwi Greg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have fired heaps of CE 375 projectiles, 330,350,375,377,400,402&425 grain.
I'm very happy with them & fouling isn't an issue once the barrel has settled down.
Accuracy is fantastic as far as I've seen.
The BCs seem to be there or there abouts, a lot closer than a few of the others I've shot.
They make 408, here is a link.

https://cuttingedgebullets.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?
search=action&category=1408



</div></div>

I ordered some 420gn projos from CE, can't wait to see how they perform.
Have you tried the Rocky Mountain bullets?....just wondering. Haven't seen where anyone has had a report on how they perform.

 

[Kiwi Greg]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nostradumbass</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kiwi Greg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have fired heaps of CE 375 projectiles, 330,350,375,377,400,402&425 grain.
I'm very happy with them & fouling isn't an issue once the barrel has settled down.
Accuracy is fantastic as far as I've seen.
The BCs seem to be there or there abouts, a lot closer than a few of the others I've shot.
They make 408, here is a link.

https://cuttingedgebullets.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?
search=action&category=1408



</div></div>

I ordered some 420gn projos from CE, can't wait to see how they perform.
Have you tried the Rocky Mountain bullets?....just wondering. Haven't seen where anyone has had a report on how they perform. </div></div>

I haven't used the RM bullets in the 375.
I did a few years ago now in my 416B, they were too soft & didn't like to be launched hard, they may have changed since then, the BC was pretty optimistic as well....

 

[Nostradumbass]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kiwi Greg</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nostradumbass</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kiwi Greg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have fired heaps of CE 375 projectiles, 330,350,375,377,400,402&425 grain.
I'm very happy with them & fouling isn't an issue once the barrel has settled down.
Accuracy is fantastic as far as I've seen.
The BCs seem to be there or there abouts, a lot closer than a few of the others I've shot.
They make 408, here is a link.

https://cuttingedgebullets.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?
search=action&category=1408



</div></div>

I ordered some 420gn projos from CE, can't wait to see how they perform.
Have you tried the Rocky Mountain bullets?....just wondering. Haven't seen where anyone has had a report on how they perform. </div></div>

I haven't used the RM bullets in the 375.
I did a few years ago now in my 416B, they were too soft & didn't like to be launched hard, they may have changed since then, the BC was pretty optimistic as well....</div></div>
Yeah I wondered if the lead core bullets might be too soft. Naturally the manufacturer doesn't think so....

 

[mrjimsfc]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

The problem I encountered with RM bullets was a large discrepancy in bullet weights. The bullets I purchased varied in weight by over two grains from bullet to bullet. With CE bullets I'm finding about 0.8 grains difference throughout the 100 bullets I purchased. I think as long as you carefully sort all your bullets by weight, you will experience some pretty consistent results no matter which bullet you use. CE bullets <span style="font-style: italic">claim</span> a little higher BC and cost a little less than RM bullets. I really like the rebated boat-tail on the RM bullets.

 

[viersco]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

I think Midway has some of the CE bullets on the closeout list.

 

[dynamic research]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

Try the Predator 350 gr from Dynamic Research LLC. Dave Viers has a video on his site of him shooting them. Snipers Hide also did an accuracy test at Gun Site. Take a look at these. It will give you another option.

 

[Starbuck]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mrjimsfc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The problem I encountered with RM bullets was a large discrepancy in bullet weights. The bullets I purchased varied in weight by over two grains from bullet to bullet. With CE bullets I'm finding about 0.8 grains difference throughout the 100 bullets I purchased. I think as long as you carefully sort all your bullets by weight, you will experience some pretty consistent results no matter which bullet you use. CE bullets <span style="font-style: italic">claim</span> a little higher BC and cost a little less than RM bullets. I really like the rebated boat-tail on the RM bullets.

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A 2gn +/- variance on a 420gn bullet is not large enough to cause a meaningful POI shift c. 2000m. Plug the data into FFS or Loadbase/Coldbore and you'll see. I shoot the RMB's in my EDM XM .408 and I like 'em...

In any case, we are both off the OP's topic, which I am curious about as well, which is about fouling and barrel life with respect either solid vs jacketed Cheytac bullets.

BTW, WTF with that green/yellow flasher?

 

[dynamic research]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

I have got well over 70 rounds in my 375 CT with the Predators. I am going to shoot it until accuracy starts to fall, then clean it. I have over 250 rounds in my 308 with 176 gr Predators, still great accuracy. I will bore scope it tomorrow and see if I can post a picture.

 

[DanGuy48]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stephen Damron</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have got well over 70 rounds in my 375 CT with the Predators. I am going to shoot it until accuracy starts to fall, then clean it. I have over 250 rounds in my 308 with 176 gr Predators, still great accuracy. I will bore scope it tomorrow and see if I can post a picture. </div></div>

Just an FYI, I'm still having trouble accessing your website. It comes up with either 404 or an under construction page depending on the URL I use.

 

[dynamic research]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

We pulled the barrel on our 375 CT today. We now have 130 rounds through it with Predator solids. I took some bore scope pictures of the lands and grooves at the throat and mid bore so people will be able to see the amount of fouling you get from our solids. This should dispell some of the false information that is going around.

 

[mrjimsfc]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Starbuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A 2gn +/- variance on a 420gn bullet is not large enough to cause a meaningful POI shift c. 2000m. Plug the data into FFS or Loadbase/Coldbore and you'll see. I shoot the RMB's in my EDM XM .408 and I like 'em... </div></div>
Oh, I like the RMs. It's just that for sighting in at 600 yds. I needed to weigh them to get consistent pressures and good groups. If you don't like the flasher, I won't put him on here.
I figure that since the RMs are copper jacketed and the CEs are solid copper the fouling would be similar.

 

[Nostradumbass]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stephen Damron</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have got well over 70 rounds in my 375 CT with the Predators. I am going to shoot it until accuracy starts to fall, then clean it. I have over 250 rounds in my 308 with 176 gr Predators, still great accuracy. I will bore scope it tomorrow and see if I can post a picture.</div></div>

These are bore scope pictures taken by Stephen Darmon of Dynamic Research on his 375 Cheytac. This is after 130 rounds without cleaning. The first is at the throat, 2nd in the middle, and 3rd is an inch from the muzzle. The projos shot are his design.

 

[300LW]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

Has anyone here tried the solids made by HSM? 333 gr. in .375 and 400 gr. in .408 at roughly half the price of other solids.

 

[dynamic research]

Re: Cheytac projos....solids or jackets?

there hasent been much after this post so i suspose the rumors about solids are dispelled an no one wants to comment.

 

[Colcalcipherol]

I went to the Dynamic Research page and I didn't see anything listed in .375". Are they special order?