AX PSR .vs. MRAD

[alvinjamur]

I have the AX308 in a 24" (which i absolutely love). I was looking at the AX PSR (crazy cost) which would allow me the option of using 3 different calibers versus getting the
MRAD and not knowing when the 300 and 308 components will be out. I believe the AX PSR will go out at $15200 for delivery end of Jan. Am not able to make a decision....pls give me some wisdom.

aLV

 

[Dogtown]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

Assuming the point of this is to have a switch barrel rifle, I say go with the rifle that has conversion kits available. I know guys who bought MRADs 18 months who're still waiting to shoot something besides .338LM. Maybe in 2014.

 

[Mustafa]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

*Cough* DTA *Cough* *Cough*

 

[S12A]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

well , barrel availability aside they are both awesome rifles.

i had a Barrett 98B for a while and much preferred it over the AI AW .33lm that i had used a bit. and there has been a few posts about the .300win mag barrels being available soon.

that said i would love the new AX PSR .

 

[coldboremiracle]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

Between those two? The AX for sure. Thought for 15k you could have a DTA, an S&B, and half a dozen different barrels

 

[bward]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

The quality of a DTA isn't in the same ballpark as an AI. If you have the money for the PSR I would go for it. If you don't feel comfortable spending that much, stick with your AX. You will still have one of the best rifles available.

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

I see nothing wrong with DTA's quality and I have a aiaw too. The DTA for less money gives you the option of a quick multi caliber system that is shorter then anything else, it's repeatable, great accuracy, robust. I don't know why you guys talk shit. I love the fact that I can shoot 6 diferent calibers off that one gun and scope. Don't take me wrong the AI psr looks like a awesome system and I like AI BUT don't knock DTA.

 

[Lowlight]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

The DTA is very good, but it does have several limitations when compared with rifles like the Barrett and AI.

The lack of adjustability is one. Some people find not having a cheek piece on the DTA a problem.

The AI PSR also changes out with 1 Allen key and uses the single wrench for all of the adjustments.

The bullpup is not as intuitive to operate. It's a training issue for positions beyond prone. I think the DTA shines more so in the HTI configuration, vs the smaller caliber.

It's not a deal breaker for some but there a number of small issues that people notice, and the list shrinks or grows depending on the end user. The more traditional styles of the MRAD and AI don't seems to experience this. Though the lack of barrels has plagued the Barrett.

 

[dbransco]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

I don't know what it is (and I have no experience shooting the DTA) but I fondled one at a shop in NC and it felt like crap. It felt very cheap and just not very robust feeling. Then I took a look at another users here on the Hide in TX and it was the exact opposite. It felt as you sad Big joe, durable, robust and made well. Someone suggested that maybe it was the difference between a Gen 1 and Gen 2? The one in TX was a Gen 2, I don't know about the one in NC. They felt worlds apart and I don't know why.

 

[poison123]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

The only negative thing I think one could say about the DTA platform is the mags suck hard and are expensive. Otherwise its a well thought out design that can withstand even the most harden retard abuse.

Hell Joe hasn't broken his yet............

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

I agree frank, the AI was nice and would be a simpler transition for those who wanted a more normal bolt gun. I have not been impressed with a single Barret I have ever shot.

 

[Mute]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

The DTA is a good platform, but you tend to either like it or you don't. I did like it, but not as much as a traditional bolt gun, so I've pretty much decided to stick with that (I'm going with an AI). I wouldn't dismiss the DTA completely, but the AI rifles are just a bit more refined and Frank listed some of the major issues some shooters have with the SRS. One small nitpick for me was that I could never quite get the SRS trigger to feel the way I want. It wasn't enough to throw off my shots, but it did slow me down a bit. I've never had that issue with a more traditional trigger.

The PSR is a great package and if you intend to shoot the 3 calibers it comes with in the kit, it's an easy entry to multiple calibers. However, since you have an AX already, I'd just get another AX rifle in the caliber I'd want. Don't have to dick around with swapping barrels and re-zeroing your scope.

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

yeah true for the money your goin to spend on the PSR even with selling your AX your goin to have another 9k into it, you could afford another ax in 338 and a S&B almost for that. get a action wrench and you can swap calibers with two guns

 

[Lowlight]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

I know for certain Mile High is ordering or has ordered 260 barrels to fit the AI PSR ...

But the guys are right, short of selling the AX and then spending $15k, you could just get an AX338 and then have barrels for other calibers done.

You can change both in your garage with a change kit and torgue wrench. The 308 will already work for everything in that family, 6mm up.

But the PSR is pretty bad ass, kinda hard to pass up if you can swing it

 

[Starbuck]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

And for those who don't mind waiting a litle longer, isn't AI planning to offer a new, upgraded AX sometime, with the PSR CCW folding stock, and the hex-key barrel change feature?

I thought Tom Irwin mentioned this somewhere in passing, but I can't find the post....

 

[Lowlight]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

Little longer and AI rarely work in the same sentence, LOL

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

Yeah u guys go ahead and hold your breath. Ill shoot te barrels out of a couple guns before that happens

 

[bward]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

I guess Joe hasn't managed to break his DTA yet, but I had several issues with mine come up with practicing and in matches. I lost all confidence in the system, sold it and have never regretted it. I'll take an AI, TRG, or custom over a DTA any day.

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

I've had both generations, shot thousands upon thousands of rounds through it, no issues, I had some light strikes in my gen 1 in 308, changed the spring with the new one DTA sent and no issues since. I've heard more this year on AI's with soft bolts then problems with DTA's

 

[alvinjamur]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

btw...frank...the signature u have is from the buddha. from the "dhammapadha".

)

 

[Chanonry]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Starbuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And for those who don't mind waiting a litle longer, isn't AI planning to offer a new, upgraded AX sometime, with the PSR CCW folding stock, and the hex-key barrel change feature?

I thought Tom Irwin mentioned this somewhere in passing, but I can't find the post....</div></div>

2013 allegedly, but no fixed date

 

[ryoxf]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Starbuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And for those who don't mind waiting a litle longer, isn't AI planning to offer a new, upgraded AX sometime, with the PSR CCW folding stock, and the hex-key barrel change feature?

I thought Tom Irwin mentioned this somewhere in passing, but I can't find the post.... </div></div>

been holding out for this too, but after talking to people, it seems it may take awhile before they get on the street.

 

[AEROMechanic]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ryoxy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Starbuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And for those who don't mind waiting a litle longer, isn't AI planning to offer a new, upgraded AX sometime, with the PSR CCW folding stock, and the hex-key barrel change feature?

I thought Tom Irwin mentioned this somewhere in passing, but I can't find the post.... </div></div>

been holding out for this too, but after talking to people, it seems it may take awhile before they get on the street. </div></div>

Probably about the same time the left handed AX is debuted!

 

[pharm762]

Re: AX PSR .vs. MRAD

Get the AI. I have the AX338 and love it. When I comes up with barrels and bolts for conversion I am jumping on that.