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308 hunting questions on deer...

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i know you can easily shoot steel or paper at 1000+ yards with a 308.... but how far can you ethically hunt with a 308 on deer sized game???

the reason i ask is im about to PCS to texas, and i am going to build up one of my rifles... either a 300 win or 308 win... i like the 308 cuz of how cheap it is to shoot.... but you cant argue with the numbers on the 300 win.... i know you can def find some spots on hogs and deer in texas where you can seriously reach out, and this is why i ask.....

the 308 is a solid sub 3/4 moa rifle....
the model 70 is chambered in 7mm and is more of a traditional rifle around 1+ MOA

you thoughts?
 
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308 pushing a 178 Amax or 175 Berger should still be clocking approx 1650 fps and a bit over 1000 ft lbs at 650Y @500 ft elevation.

Once the new Nosler 30 cal 190 gr accubombs are released, I would be curious how they perform. They may stretch that 308s max terminal range. Just not sure of the twist of your rifle. If your twist if fast enough, you can work up 190's and 208's for a little more reach.
 
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Over 300 yards on deer size game I would take the 300 win mag over the 308 win every time.
 
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People seem to be killing deer pretty easily using subsonic 300 BLK with bullets that don't expand at all. The real question is how far YOU can shoot ethically. I limit myself to 500 yards maximum if conditions are good with my 6.5's. I know I can hit within 6 inches of my point of aim at that distance with my wind reading skills and other errors added in. You usually don't get a practice shot to figure out the wind when shooting at game. Go with whichever rifle you are more confident with and stick to the distance limits you have set for yourself.
 
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Do you have a rangefinder that will go as far as you intend to shoot? I know this has limited my ability in the past.
 
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Also depends on the land on which you will be hunting. You won't know for sure until you locate actual land you can hunt on. Is there enough room for longer range?

I would think you could easily do a static stand hunt and do 300-400 depending on your skill level. It all kinda depends on what you can do.

300-400 is my max with my 308 precision rig on deer. But I hunt in some hill country. My last buck...I whacked him at....about 80 yards. He jumped me.

If you are a volume shooter and aren't sure, I would take the 308. I would hate being stuck with the "wrong rifle" the rest of the year. But that's just me.


TTR
 
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Id have no problem shooting a deer out to 600yds, as long as I know where my bullet is hitting at that range, Im very confident in my 700SPSS and it shoots very well out to 600yds, which is just under 1 MOA,.5MOA at 300yds.
 
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I'm glad this was asked as I've never seen it discussed here before.

my skills would limit me to about 600 but energy wise out to 800 I'd feel comfortable with.
 
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You do not hunt deer in Texas.

You sit in a stand and wait for them to come to the feeder, then you take your pick according to how much you want to spend.

Texas deer are very small and it doesn't take much to kill them. A "big" buck down here will go about 120 pounds on the hoof.

Of course, finding a place to hunt will cost you pretty serious cash and then a kill fee on top of that. "Trophy" class bucks will run you 4000 or 5000 dollars, on top of the fee just to hunt them. They are very proud indeed of their tiny deer.
I've eaten dogs that were almost as big.

Of course, you CAN lease land, anywhere from 1500 to 4500 for an annual lease depending on where and size of the lease.

If you get to know folks, sometimes you can find those guys that already have a lease or have land.

Hog hunting is a bit easier, though they tend to be very proud of their invasive, destructive species also.

Kind of funny to listen to a rancher piss and moan to high heaven about the hogs, yet you ask if you can come out and shoot a few and they want to charge you 400 bucks for the weekend and a kill fee.

I wouldn't mind a nominal fee, but I can buy an awful lot of pork at the store for 450 bucks.

98% of Texas is privately owned and "hunting" is big business.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A "big" buck down here will go about 120 pounds on the hoof.
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With all due respect, that's a load of horseshit.
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This guy weighed a good bit more than 120 on the hoof, and he's not "big" by anyone's standards. (grin)

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that said, i wouldn't worry about hunting at 1000 yards in 95% of Texas. i've hunted there a good bit, in different areas, and the longest clear shot opportunity we would have had was about 550 or so....and a .308 will do just fine at that distance, provided you know WTF you're doing and don't try to shoot it in the ass.

game animals aren't bulletproof. hell, that muley wasn't even arrow-proof.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You do not hunt deer in Texas.

You sit in a stand and wait for them to come to the feeder, then you take your pick according to how much you want to spend.

Texas deer are very small and it doesn't take much to kill them. A "big" buck down here will go about 120 pounds on the hoof.

Of course, finding a place to hunt will cost you pretty serious cash and then a kill fee on top of that. "Trophy" class bucks will run you 4000 or 5000 dollars, on top of the fee just to hunt them. They are very proud indeed of their tiny deer.
I've eaten dogs that were almost as big.

Of course, you CAN lease land, anywhere from 1500 to 4500 for an annual lease depending on where and size of the lease.

If you get to know folks, sometimes you can find those guys that already have a lease or have land.

Hog hunting is a bit easier, though they tend to be very proud of their invasive, destructive species also.

Kind of funny to listen to a rancher piss and moan to high heaven about the hogs, yet you ask if you can come out and shoot a few and they want to charge you 400 bucks for the weekend and a kill fee.

I wouldn't mind a nominal fee, but I can buy an awful lot of pork at the store for 450 bucks.

98% of Texas is privately owned and "hunting" is big business.</div></div>
If you call this hunting we`ve different views....
do some competitive shooting....silhouette,LR,tatical...local clubs then bigger matches....more fun more shooting good people...
bill larson
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Armed Ferret</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A "big" buck down here will go about 120 pounds on the hoof.
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With all due respect, that's a load of horseshit.
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This guy weighed a good bit more than 120 on the hoof, and he's not "big" by anyone's standards. (grin)

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that said, i wouldn't worry about hunting at 1000 yards in 95% of Texas. i've hunted there a good bit, in different areas, and the longest clear shot opportunity we would have had was about 550 or so....and a .308 will do just fine at that distance, provided you know WTF you're doing and don't try to shoot it in the ass.

game animals aren't bulletproof. hell, that muley wasn't even arrow-proof. </div></div>

That's a pretty nice muley, it will depend on where you hunt.
I grew up in Pennsylvania and Ohio and I have lived here in Texas for over 15 years.

I have yet to see a "big" deer and this includes game managed areas. I haven't seen a whitetail that goes over 120 to 140 on the hoof.
Not saying they don't exist, but most places here are all about the racks and will feed them to grow non=typical racks.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: freerunner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Over 300 yards on deer size game I would take the 300 win mag over the 308 win every time. </div></div>

Really? I have taken deer at over 500 yards with a 308 with clean pass through and they were DRT. The 308 is capable of taking deer at far greater ranges than most people have any business trying.
 
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i find it strange that there isnt state lands to hunt on like back in NY... or that they charge to hunt hog... that just seems off...

guess i will just have to hunt on post
 
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120-140 lb deer in Texas? Doubt the average buck comes that small from what I've seen. I hunt here in Northeast Florida and lease land from Rayonier. All pine trees and swamp, we kill 150-160lb deer on the regular and my Great Uncle has killed two 10 points at 190 and 200 lbs. As for effective range for the .308 I'm all about the quality of a bullet I load Nosler accubonds and hornady SST 165's. I'm using the Hornadys this year only field test I have is on a 220+lb Sow I shot at 130 yds and she hit the dirt on impact.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> it will depend on where you hunt.
I grew up in Pennsylvania and Ohio and I have lived here in Texas for over 15 years.

I have yet to see a "big" deer and this includes game managed areas. I haven't seen a whitetail that goes over 120 to 140 on the hoof.
Not saying they don't exist, but most places here are all about the racks and will feed them to grow non=typical racks.</div></div>

i'm from iowa, so i'm no stranger to massive deer. TX deer definitely ain't anywhere near as big, but we always get plenty of meat for the freezer and our ferrets (raw diet), which is the main goal. we also don't hunt commercial game ranches or anything else, just free range spot-and-stalk usually in the panhandle area.
 
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I've eaten dogs that were almost as big.

Really, you eat dogs? Must be one of them asian fellas, huh? LOL
 
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No, I'm not asian, but I have eaten dog, the occasional lizard and a fruit bat.

I live in South Texas, for those that are doubters, piss on you, I'm telling you the bucks don't go over 120 to 140 here. I see them regularly on patrol.
Are there bigger ones? I'm sure there are, but they will be around food plots behind a high fence.
There isn't jack shit for them to eat here but sticker burrs and dead mexicans.
Deer in the panhandle are most certainly going to be different. It gets cold in the panhandle and they have to put on mass to live.
 
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.308 will do fine as far a you can hit it (deer,ect.) properly. I have shot deer and elk in excess of 500 with .308's and others, as long as you put it through the boiler they will go down.
 
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Biggest issue is time of flight. During that time, deer can cover a lot of ground.
 
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I have personally killed deer in Texas and seen many hanging from a scale that are 180-200lbs before field dressing.

While certainly not BIG deer, not scrawny little things either.

We also have a long hunting season, our place in MLD and starts in Oct and ends in Feb...

I can kill 7 deer there and still have 5 tags on my license, the boys another 10 between them!

That's Texas baby!
 
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Fdkay is mostly full of it. A mature whitetail buck will easily top 200 lbs in almost any part of Texas, given that he is not run down from the rut. Are Texas whitetails as big as Iowa bucks? No, but their not chihuahuas either. His perspective may be skewed as he is likely mostly seeing 1.5-2.5 year old deer. These will be in the weight class referenced. The TPWD has instituted antler spread restrictions in many counties that have dramatically improved the age structure of the herds in these areas. Also, south texas is know for big (not small) whitetails- relative to the rest of the state- due to the abundance of native high-protein food sources. Most of the state is privately owned and unlike other parts of the country, fences are for people too. While privately owned, land for lease is easily found in the classified section of most major news papers. There is a significant presence of high fenced ranches in the state, however, a hunter can be very successful and never set foot on any of them. There are a few national forests in the east part of the state that are huntable. Also there is an annual draw for permits to hunt many of the wildlife management areas in the state (like the Kerr WMF where the TPWD conducted a ~30 year study on herd management and antler growth). While stand hunting over corn is very popular, spot and stalk hunting is every bit as successful in the hill country as deer drives in the piney woods. If you do choose to hunt a managed ranch, most will Taylor the hunt to your preferences. It is notable that the most well recognized managed ranch in the state- The King Ranch- is not high fenced. And, in the extreme west of the state there is a hunt able population of free range elk. Texas is VAST and there is plenty of hunting to go around. But, hunting is big business and Fdkay's price estimates are not out of line. Whether s/he chooses to hunt public land, enter the draws, find a lease, or enjoy a fully guided hunt on a managed private ranch a determined hunter will find success regardless of his/ her chosen means and methods. Unlike Fdkay, I've only lived in Texas for 28 years and have hunted here for about as many. While you are not here yet, let me be the first to say "welcome to Texas and good luck!"

Edit... The Texas Parks and Wildlife Department has done more studies and has more data on whitetailed deer than any other agency or group in the world. Based on studies performed at the Kerr Wildlife Management Area (on Texas-native deer) they found that the mean (average) live weight of a 4.5 year old deer that was a fork antlered deer at 1.5 was 78.7 kg- that's 173 lbs. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/hun..._and_body_mass/

The antler restrictions I alluded to above were put in place because the TPWD determined that <span style="font-weight: bold">most bucks taken in the state were 2.5 years or less in age</span>.

The deer that "you see while on patrol" are not representative of the population or of the the genetic potential in the population. They are only representative of the deer you see. They ones you see easily are the does, the dumb, and the young. Nice/big/old bucks are rarely seen.

And, a 308 win is more than sufficient to take any deer in Texas at any range that you are likely to find them. In the history of hunting no <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">hunter</span></span> has ever been limited by the range of his chosen weapon.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, I'm not asian, but I have eaten dog, the occasional lizard and a fruit bat.

I live in South Texas, for those that are doubters, piss on you, I'm telling you the bucks don't go over 120 to 140 here. I see them regularly on patrol.
Are there bigger ones? I'm sure there are, but they will be around food plots behind a high fence.
There isn't jack shit for them to eat here but sticker burrs and dead mexicans.
Deer in the panhandle are most certainly going to be different. It gets cold in the panhandle and they have to put on mass to live.

</div></div>

Clearly you have never hunted anywhere but South Texas, not all the deer in Texas are like the deer in the South. Just because that is how it works down there doesn't mean shit anywhere else in the state is the same. I have hunted East Texas for a few years now. one place was a 10,000 acre lease that cost $500 for year round access, so your figures are wrong for the leases too. I have seen plenty of deer bigger than 120. My dad killed a small buck this year that weighed that much and none of my hunting here has never been on a high fence... The bucks around here aren't as big as up north but they do get bigger than 120.

Walter
 
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Sorry op,

To answer your question either of those rifles will work fine in Texas for hunting any game that we have. In the past I have been mostly using my 30-06 to hunt with when I am not bow hunting, but I used lighter bullets. I would pick whichever of the rifles that you like the most and shoot the best to use, it is possible to get some longer shots depending where you are hunting but either of those guns would work fine.

Walter
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wburke2010</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, I'm not asian, but I have eaten dog, the occasional lizard and a fruit bat.

I live in South Texas, for those that are doubters, piss on you, I'm telling you the bucks don't go over 120 to 140 here. I see them regularly on patrol.
Are there bigger ones? I'm sure there are, but they will be around food plots behind a high fence.
There isn't jack shit for them to eat here but sticker burrs and dead mexicans.
Deer in the panhandle are most certainly going to be different. It gets cold in the panhandle and they have to put on mass to live.

</div></div>

Clearly you have never hunted anywhere but South Texas, not all the deer in Texas are like the deer in the South. Just because that is how it works down there doesn't mean shit anywhere else in the state is the same. I have hunted East Texas for a few years now. one place was a 10,000 acre lease that cost $500 for year round access, so your figures are wrong for the leases too. I have seen plenty of deer bigger than 120. My dad killed a small buck this year that weighed that much and none of my hunting here has never been on a high fence... The bucks around here aren't as big as up north but they do get bigger than 120.

Walter </div></div>

Walter, clearly you can't read.
I stated unequivocally that my experience is not indicative of the entire state.
My co-worker, who happens to be lucky enough to hunt on a small plot of land (250 acres) just shot himself a nice buck this year. He figured it was 4 to 5 years old. Yep, weighed about 140.

I gave my figures for cost of a lease by doing a search on lease hunter, they were an accurate representation of what the cost is.

And yes, I have hunted places besides South Texas. New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Maryland and Florida.

Sorry you have deer envy. I like many things about Texas, but I'm not impressed with the hunting opportunities for those of us that can't afford thousands of dollars to spend.

Hell, two days at the refuge on a public hunt is 160 dollars.
 
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Walter, clearly you can't read.
<span style="color: #FF0000">I stated unequivocally that my experience is not indicative of the entire state.</span>
My co-worker, who happens to be lucky enough to hunt on a small plot of land (250 acres) just shot himself a nice buck this year. He figured it was 4 to 5 years old. Yep, weighed about 140.

I gave my figures for cost of a lease by doing a search on lease hunter, they were an accurate representation of what the cost is.

And yes, I have hunted places besides South Texas. New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Maryland and Florida.

Sorry you have deer envy. I like many things about Texas, but I'm not impressed with the hunting opportunities for those of us that can't afford thousands of dollars to spend.

Hell, two days at the refuge on a public hunt is 160 dollars.

[/quote]

I can read, and there is not one place that you are talking only about South Texas, Go back and read your post.

Walter
 
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269 yards is as far as I've had the shot to hit one. It worked just fine 178 amax

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wburke2010</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[/quote]

Walter, clearly you can't read.
<span style="color: #FF0000">I stated unequivocally that my experience is not indicative of the entire state.</span>
My co-worker, who happens to be lucky enough to hunt on a small plot of land (250 acres) just shot himself a nice buck this year. He figured it was 4 to 5 years old. Yep, weighed about 140.

I gave my figures for cost of a lease by doing a search on lease hunter, they were an accurate representation of what the cost is.

And yes, I have hunted places besides South Texas. New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Maryland and Florida.

Sorry you have deer envy. I like many things about Texas, but I'm not impressed with the hunting opportunities for those of us that can't afford thousands of dollars to spend.

Hell, two days at the refuge on a public hunt is 160 dollars.

</div></div>

I can read, and there is not one place that you are talking only about South Texas, Go back and read your post.

Walter [/quote]

Walter, Maybe this will help:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<span style="color: #CC0000">I live in South Texas</span>, for those that are doubters, piss on you, I'm telling you the bucks don't go over 120 to 140 <span style="color: #FF0000">here</span>. I see them regularly on patrol.
<span style="color: #FF0000">Deer in the panhandle are most certainly going to be different.</span> It gets cold in the panhandle and they have to put on mass to live.
</div></div>

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: suburbanhick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">man... talking about hijacking </div></div>

...and apparently he is still not done hijacking and shitting in someone elses thread.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: freerunner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Over 300 yards on deer size game I would take the 300 win mag over the 308 win every time. </div></div> i saw someone shoot at cow elk at 600+ with a 105 vld and dropped it in its tracks.... i wouldnt worry about a 308 farther than 300 yards doing the same on game larger than deer
 
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you can def find 200lb deer here. in Star county which is very far south, in San Antonio the deer are very small, so if thats what you are calling south I agree.

I've killed a deer at 300, but beyond that I dont see the need as the rest of your post is pretty accurate... you dont really hunt them at range here.
 
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IF the deer are that small in stature...I would leave the 300 and take the 308. Dead is Dead BUT In my opinion The 300 would be too much gun.
 
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i have a buddy that has 360 acres and we have hunted on it in the past. it has a few feeders on it but we mainly set those up to get the hogs all in one place so we can get more than one at a time.

most of the bucks we shoot are out in the fields. most of the time. only the small ones ever show up to the feeders.

on that piece of land we could take a buck well past 100 yards but we never do. i don't consider shooting a deer from 200+ yards actual hunting. if you don't have to worry about standing down wind, where they are bedding at, where they are getting water, or where they like to eat if not at the feeder. then your basically just testing your shooting ability and not your hunting ability.

anyone can learn how to sit there and shoot a buck 500 yards out. it takes a lot more time and patience to leaner how to spot and stalk.

I've actually killed more deer with my SOCOM 16 (1 round loaded into the chamber and 1 in the magazine. spare 20 round mage just in case we see hogs) than i have a bolt gun in some areas. just depends on what your version of hunting is.
 
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exactly, it takes time to find the big bucks in texas, they wont be coming to eat corn from your feeder very often.
 
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Another 100lb low fence south Texas White Tail!
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"There isn't jack shit for them to eat here but sticker burrs and dead mexicans."

You sure do know a lot about wild life management...

Sorry OP I have killed White Tail out past 600yd drt with the .308. If you are capable the .308 will ethically kill deer out to 1000yds in my opinion.



 
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i actually miss when i was station in NC. lots of areas to hunt for free around there and there are plenty of deer. i never had a problem getting tags filled in NC.

in Tx its better to know someone or be related to someone who knows someone that has land or you'll most likely end up paying money.

sadly even hog hunting isn't free.

i was at the range and met someone who was talking about how hogs are tearing up his land. after talking to him for a while he asked if i would like to shoot some hogs for the weekend. i said sure and the guy said it will only cost 300 bucks for the weekend and there is a bunk house on his property. also there was a $1 a pound charge when the hog was shot and then cleaned for you. i then laughed at the guy and said i hope he has fun with his hog problem.

I'm personally perfectly ok with sleeping on the ground, eating canned soup, being cold wet and miserable for as long as i need to be when i hunt. unfortunately they will even charge you for that lol.

Texas is not the best place to hunt. born and raised here but i have been all over the country. if setting up a feed stand and sitting in a blind is your idea of hunting then have fun.

personally i miss being in Montana. that was good hunting there
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike0341</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i actually miss when i was station in NC. lots of areas to hunt for free around there and there are plenty of deer. i never had a problem getting tags filled in NC.

in Tx its better to know someone or be related to someone who knows someone that has land or you'll most likely end up paying money.

sadly even hog hunting isn't free.

i was at the range and met someone who was talking about how hogs are tearing up his land. after talking to him for a while he asked if i would like to shoot some hogs for the weekend. i said sure and the guy said it will only cost 300 bucks for the weekend and there is a bunk house on his property. also there was a $1 a pound charge when the hog was shot and then cleaned for you. i then laughed at the guy and said i hope he has fun with his hog problem.

I'm personally perfectly ok with sleeping on the ground, eating canned soup, being cold wet and miserable for as long as i need to be when i hunt. unfortunately they will even charge you for that lol.

Texas is not the best place to hunt. born and raised here but i have been all over the country. if setting up a feed stand and sitting in a blind is your idea of hunting then have fun.

personally i miss being in Montana. that was good hunting there </div></div>




thats just sad.... eff that noise
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: suburbanhick</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike0341</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i actually miss when i was station in NC. lots of areas to hunt for free around there and there are plenty of deer. i never had a problem getting tags filled in NC.

in Tx its better to know someone or be related to someone who knows someone that has land or you'll most likely end up paying money.

sadly even hog hunting isn't free.

i was at the range and met someone who was talking about how hogs are tearing up his land. after talking to him for a while he asked if i would like to shoot some hogs for the weekend. i said sure and the guy said it will only cost 300 bucks for the weekend and there is a bunk house on his property. also there was a $1 a pound charge when the hog was shot and then cleaned for you. i then laughed at the guy and said i hope he has fun with his hog problem.

I'm personally perfectly ok with sleeping on the ground, eating canned soup, being cold wet and miserable for as long as i need to be when i hunt. unfortunately they will even charge you for that lol.

Texas is not the best place to hunt. born and raised here but i have been all over the country. if setting up a feed stand and sitting in a blind is your idea of hunting then have fun.

personally i miss being in Montana. that was good hunting there </div></div>




thats just sad.... eff that noise </div></div>

My thoughts exactly.
 
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