I saw on another site that cfe would work with creedmoor but no data was given. Seeing that I'm running 140 amax and 140 nolsers I need a some help. Does anyone know of a starting point
CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
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Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
Checked Hodgdon's data center and they provide no data for CFE in 6.5CM with heavier than 95 grain.
Checked Hodgdon's data center and they provide no data for CFE in 6.5CM with heavier than 95 grain.
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
Well, they go up to 107 grains as of today, but yea, it's sparse info. Log your results and share! I've got CFE223, and getting into a 6.5 in the near future.
Well, they go up to 107 grains as of today, but yea, it's sparse info. Log your results and share! I've got CFE223, and getting into a 6.5 in the near future.
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
Yeah that's what I got. It looks like every 5 grains heavier it goes up .5gr of powder
Yeah that's what I got. It looks like every 5 grains heavier it goes up .5gr of powder
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
There might be a reason they only load it in the 107s, that being said, id say the max would be right around 37.5grs for the 140s.
There might be a reason they only load it in the 107s, that being said, id say the max would be right around 37.5grs for the 140s.
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
Yeah, this weekend the kids are going to their mom's. So I will have time to work on numbers. I will leave my stock trigger in just in case I blow a primer
Yeah, this weekend the kids are going to their mom's. So I will have time to work on numbers. I will leave my stock trigger in just in case I blow a primer
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
I wouldn't pick it.
Slower powders for heavy bullets are best, H4350, R-17, N160. Varget is the fastest powder I would attempt to use in 6.5 creed with 140's.
I wouldn't pick it.
Slower powders for heavy bullets are best, H4350, R-17, N160. Varget is the fastest powder I would attempt to use in 6.5 creed with 140's.
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
Good to know. I'm only trying it, because I have some laying around, that I never used for my 308 nor my 223
Good to know. I'm only trying it, because I have some laying around, that I never used for my 308 nor my 223
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wouldn't pick it.
Slower powders for heavy bullets are best, H4350, R-17, N160. Varget is the fastest powder I would attempt to use in 6.5 creed with 140's. </div></div>
100% agree. I use RL17 for 142SMK and H4350 worked best with the 130VLD.
I think CFE is a little too fast to provide good performance in the CM with heavier bullets.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wouldn't pick it.
Slower powders for heavy bullets are best, H4350, R-17, N160. Varget is the fastest powder I would attempt to use in 6.5 creed with 140's. </div></div>
100% agree. I use RL17 for 142SMK and H4350 worked best with the 130VLD.
I think CFE is a little too fast to provide good performance in the CM with heavier bullets.
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
After all the info gathered y'all are correct. H4350 is nowhere to be found. Would H100V or H414 work? They have around the same load numbers
After all the info gathered y'all are correct. H4350 is nowhere to be found. Would H100V or H414 work? They have around the same load numbers
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
Hodgdon lists hybrid100v as a good powder for velocity. Hornady load data is 38.8 = 2500fps. Minimum load
Max is 42.8 at 2725 fps at 2.800 with a 140 amax.
H4350 max is 40.9 at 2650 at 2.800
From the 9th edition hornady reloading manual.
As we all know you'll probably be pushing them faster but hope this helps ...
Hodgdon lists hybrid100v as a good powder for velocity. Hornady load data is 38.8 = 2500fps. Minimum load
Max is 42.8 at 2725 fps at 2.800 with a 140 amax.
H4350 max is 40.9 at 2650 at 2.800
From the 9th edition hornady reloading manual.
As we all know you'll probably be pushing them faster but hope this helps ...
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
I have the perfect recipe for H4350, but I can't even find 1# on the shelf. I found varget, h414, hybrid, rl17 and ramshot hunter
I have the perfect recipe for H4350, but I can't even find 1# on the shelf. I found varget, h414, hybrid, rl17 and ramshot hunter
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J1Rjr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have the perfect recipe for H4350, but I can't even find 1# on the shelf. I found varget, h414, hybrid, rl17 and ramshot hunter</div></div>
I know where 20#'s is for 23$ a lb. No 8 pound jugs and would require shipping
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J1Rjr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have the perfect recipe for H4350, but I can't even find 1# on the shelf. I found varget, h414, hybrid, rl17 and ramshot hunter</div></div>
I know where 20#'s is for 23$ a lb. No 8 pound jugs and would require shipping
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wouldn't pick it.
Slower powders for heavy bullets are best, H4350, R-17, N160. Varget is the fastest powder I would attempt to use in 6.5 creed with 140's.</div></div>
According to hodgdon data center cfe223 is slower than varget
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wouldn't pick it.
Slower powders for heavy bullets are best, H4350, R-17, N160. Varget is the fastest powder I would attempt to use in 6.5 creed with 140's.</div></div>
According to hodgdon data center cfe223 is slower than varget
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
Rob's right, the Varget will cost you abotu 100fps in my experience. I have a buddy who dropped 308 for 6.5CM and didn't want to just shelve the Varget he had. We worked a load up with 140 Amax's and it turned out to be around 85-100fps slow.
The CFE223 is pretty fast for what you want to use. If you can't find H4350 or IMR4350 you can use H4831sc though it's going to be a cramped (compressed) load. You can also use H414 and it's slower than H4350 as well being a ball powder it fits in the case well.
I have not looked to use the H100v for this but it's similar in speed as I recall. I had a pound of it on the shelf for use in something else and I've never had the need to stuff it into a CM case.
Anything that shoves the bullets out the end of the barrel at a reasonable speed is better than twiddling your thumbs wishing you were out shooting though. Hit me up via PM if you want to trade data for other stuff beyond the CFE223.
Rob's right, the Varget will cost you abotu 100fps in my experience. I have a buddy who dropped 308 for 6.5CM and didn't want to just shelve the Varget he had. We worked a load up with 140 Amax's and it turned out to be around 85-100fps slow.
The CFE223 is pretty fast for what you want to use. If you can't find H4350 or IMR4350 you can use H4831sc though it's going to be a cramped (compressed) load. You can also use H414 and it's slower than H4350 as well being a ball powder it fits in the case well.
I have not looked to use the H100v for this but it's similar in speed as I recall. I had a pound of it on the shelf for use in something else and I've never had the need to stuff it into a CM case.
Anything that shoves the bullets out the end of the barrel at a reasonable speed is better than twiddling your thumbs wishing you were out shooting though. Hit me up via PM if you want to trade data for other stuff beyond the CFE223.
Re: CFE223 & 6.5 CREEDMOOR
Thanks to a fellow hide member and heck of a guy H4350 will be shoved in my shells. I will have to work a load with amax and nolser comp. I have fgm210m primers and cci benchrest primers.
Thanks to a fellow hide member and heck of a guy H4350 will be shoved in my shells. I will have to work a load with amax and nolser comp. I have fgm210m primers and cci benchrest primers.
You might also want to try R16. That’s my go to for now. 127 LRX at 3100 fps is screaming.
