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Stricter Gun Backround Checks

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: victory</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lot of big talk going on in here.

My question is this, you are all attacking him calling him a non patriot and ball less for saying he could deal with back ground checks, where were all you patriots and bad asses when the 94 assault weapons ban was enacted?

If you didn't do shit then, you can go ahead and STFU with all this name calling. Your time was already here to take a stand, and none of you did shit. Don't act like you are all going to be outraged by longer back ground checks now.

Give me a break.</div></div>


a lot here in OK were in "militias" talking the same crap that gets talked on here... then McViegh loaded a moving truck full of fertilizer and fuel, and blew up a federal building... at which point all those "militia" members yelled "fuck all this" and denied ever going to a meeting
 
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Exactly... talk is just that... talk.

I put no merit in any of this big internet talk.

Very few have the intestinal fortitude to pay that ultimate price and place their and their families lives on the line for the talk they spout.


If you have never played the game of "I am willing to die for my country," and actually placed your ass in the line of fire, and are willing to do it again, I say your talk means nothing until your actions show otherwise.
 
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Then all I have to say, is "Welcome to Canada" and suggest you start learning the words to the song: "God Save The Queen"

Have a nice day, I'm out of this one. As stated previous, I'm doing what I can, as a foreigner, to help ya'll out.

Why?

Because I for one, don't want to see your country turn into 'my' country. LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES! And as I also have stated previous, we actually ARE reversing some of our mistakes, with more to follow. Progress IS being made here, and I pray that more will be too. (Remember, our 'registry' just got quashed and deleted this past summer. It didn't do ANY GOOD at all, and cost us nearly 2 Billion dollars)

Just an example. What do I know? What do I care? I'm just a foreigner, from Canada.

Was a time, when I wanted to move to the US because of all your freedoms, and pride. Now, not so sure it's actually better down there.

How's THAT for a statement?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sean the Nailer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Then all I have to say, is "Welcome to Canada" and suggest you start learning the words to the song: "God Save The Queen"

Have a nice day, I'm out of this one. As stated previous, I'm doing what I can, as a foreigner, to help ya'll out.

Why?

Because I for one, don't want to see your country turn into 'my' country. LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES! And as I also have stated previous, we actually ARE reversing some of our mistakes, with more to follow. Progress IS being made here, and I pray that more will be too. (Remember, our 'registry' just got quashed and deleted this past summer. It didn't do ANY GOOD at all, and cost us nearly 2 Billion dollars)

Just an example. What do I know? What do I care? I'm just a foreigner, from Canada.

Was a time, when I wanted to move to the US because of all your freedoms, and pride. Now, not so sure it's actually better down there.

How's THAT for a statement? </div></div>


Sean,
You are thinking about the US 30 years ago. Those days have long gone. I was proud of it then too. These are different times. I no longer trust or respect our Govt. That is sad to say. I love our LEOs and Military and First Responders.
They are top shelf and to be respected. But saddly, our Govt is no longer that calibre.
We as a nation are going down the toilet and not because of the good people of the nation but because of the leadership.

I fear that we are in for a greater fall than Canada. 2nd ammendment is only a small part of our problems. We have a cancer and it looks like it is spreading.

At any rate, thanks for the advice.

Best wishes
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sean the Nailer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Then all I have to say, is "Welcome to Canada" and suggest you start learning the words to the song: "God Save The Queen"

Have a nice day, I'm out of this one. As stated previous, I'm doing what I can, as a foreigner, to help ya'll out.

Why?

Because I for one, don't want to see your country turn into 'my' country. LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES! And as I also have stated previous, we actually ARE reversing some of our mistakes, with more to follow. Progress IS being made here, and I pray that more will be too. (Remember, our 'registry' just got quashed and deleted this past summer. It didn't do ANY GOOD at all, and cost us nearly 2 Billion dollars)

Just an example. What do I know? What do I care? I'm just a foreigner, from Canada.

Was a time, when I wanted to move to the US because of all your freedoms, and pride. Now, not so sure it's actually better down there.

How's THAT for a statement? </div></div>

Sean, yuo may live in Canukistan but your more of an American than he is.
 
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So maggot, what did you do you badass American patriot when they enacted the 94 assault weapons ban?

Please tell all, so the non American patriots know what to do when they try to enact another.
 
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How much more background can you check? Do they want to know if I stole that candybar in 1993? How much bigger a brush are they gonna use? And please explain to me how that is going to prevent the guy who either stole the gun or bought the stolen gun from breaking the law with it?

So, no. In fact, repeal every restriction with firearms, all the NFA shit, keep the convicted felon restriction and make immigrants become naturalized citizens. I want to see more states pass laws like Wyoming did.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: victory</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lot of big talk going on in here.

My question is this, you are all attacking him calling him a non patriot and ball less for saying he could deal with back ground checks, where were all you patriots and bad asses when the 94 assault weapons ban was enacted?

If you didn't do shit then, you can go ahead and STFU with all this name calling. Your time was already here to take a stand, and none of you did shit. Don't act like you are all going to be outraged by longer back ground checks now.

Give me a break. </div></div>

Well, I was 13 at the time, fuck me.
 
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I was 12. If you weren't of age or a citizen of America, none of this is directed at you. If you did nothing, but aren't running your mouth like you are Thomas Paine, it isn't directed to you.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: victory</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So maggot, what did you do you badass American patriot when they enacted the 94 assault weapons ban?

Please tell all, so the non American patriots know what to do when they try to enact another. </div></div>

I bought 4. Sould have bought more but I was in college at the time. Made a nice bunch of $ on them when I sold them just before u know who got elected.

And you, genius?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: desertrat1979</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How much more background can you check? Do they want to know if I stole that candybar in 1993? How much bigger a brush are they gonna use? And please explain to me how that is going to prevent the guy who either stole the gun or bought the stolen gun from breaking the law with it?

So, no. In fact, repeal every restriction with firearms, all the NFA shit, keep the convicted felon restriction and make immigrants become naturalized citizens. I want to see more states pass laws like Wyoming did. </div></div>

If we keep giveing in they will want to know how many hairs on your.....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: victory</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was 12. If you weren't of age or a citizen of America, none of this is directed at you. If you did nothing, but aren't running your mouth like you are Thomas Paine, it isn't directed to you. </div></div>


Some may be just finding their legs, to stand up, to speak as the previous generations have not.

The fact is, as many here have alluded to, they are no longer ok with "just a little more." In contrast to the OP.

I definitely won't be calling those out who are taking a hardline stance on their rights. And definitely won't be joining the group that is preaching in far too many threads about what you are willing to compromise, when the fight has yet to start. It really is discouraging to see so many here eager compromise with an opponent that has no interest in appeasing you, to avoid the fight.

The statement "I don't care about longer backround checks because I plan ahead" is akin to those who are unwilling to stand against certain firearms restrictions, because they don't own them. This is the doesn't affect me crowd, that is willing to sell you out, to save themselves......today.
 
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The statement "I don't care about longer backround checks because I plan ahead" is akin to those who are unwilling to stand against certain firearms restrictions, because they don't own them. This is the doesn't affect me crowd, that is willing to sell you out, to save themselves......today./quote]
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Horseshit.

Are you trying to tell me that just because we both shoot for sport or other reasons that I have to believe what you believe?? That is gonna be a tough sell brother.

I am not selling anybody out. Do what you want? Nobodys got a gun to your head. You have free will.

I really dont care about longer background checks. It does not mean a thing to me. I do not see it as a sanction.

I dont think that I can possibly make it any clearer than that.


Me...i'll just wait the extra day or two and go ride my dirt bike or head down to the river.
No big deal no big drama.



HOWEVER -- DMG308 has a good point
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: victory</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So maggot, what did you do you badass American patriot when they enacted the 94 assault weapons ban?

Please tell all, so the non American patriots know what to do when they try to enact another. </div></div>

I bought 4. Sould have bought more but I was in college at the time. Made a nice bunch of $ on them when I sold them just before u know who got elected.

And you, genius? </div></div>

Wow you fucking badass patriot you. When the government was stepping all over the constitution, you bought some guns, then sold them at a profit during a gun buying frenzy. Thomas Paine would be impressed. All hail this true American. You are now the standard at which all other Americans will be held to.

"And you, genius."
Well if you had any reading comprehension you would have understood that I was 12 at the time. Let me write it again for you, "I was 12." There, does that help you?

Also that quote is a couple post above yours in case you need directions. So I did nothing because I didn't know what was going on. But I guess that is pretty much the same thing you did, but without the profit.

This time I see your tactics are different in fighting the oppressive government. This time you are going to mount the revolution yourself, starting with telling other people on Sniper's Hide that they are un American because they could live with back ground checks. The Patriots of the world applaud you sir, and the soldiers you will lead into this battle salute you.
 
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Victory,
You are a honey badger.
I'd love to walk into a shit storm alongside you one day. That would be a hoot!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Teggy1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: victory</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was 12. If you weren't of age or a citizen of America, none of this is directed at you. If you did nothing, but aren't running your mouth like you are Thomas Paine, it isn't directed to you. </div></div>


Some may be just finding their legs, to stand up, to speak as the previous generations have not.

The fact is, as many here have alluded to, they are no longer ok with "just a little more." In contrast to the OP.

I definitely won't be calling those out who are taking a hardline stance on their rights. And definitely won't be joining the group that is preaching in far too many threads about what you are willing to compromise, when the fight has yet to start. It really is discouraging to see so many here eager compromise with an opponent that has no interest in appeasing you, to avoid the fight.

The statement "I don't care about longer backround checks because I plan ahead" is akin to those who are unwilling to stand against certain firearms restrictions, because they don't own them. This is the doesn't affect me crowd, that is willing to sell you out, to save themselves......today.

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Yeah I understand where you are coming from man, the tough guy internet talk is just pissing me off.
 
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Personally I don't understand why we're attacking each other. I thought this was the time to stand shoulder to shoulder? Instead of being dicks how about educating the ones who seem to need a little help understanding their Constitutional Rights?

I'm far from perfect or being the smartest guy in the room, but if you piss me off I'm not going to listen to a thing you have to say.

Something about vinegar and honey...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Personally I don't understand why we're attacking each other. I thought this was the time to stand shoulder to shoulder? Instead of being dicks how about educating the ones who seem to need a little help understanding their Constitutional Rights?

I'm far from perfect or being the smartest guy in the room, but if you piss me off I'm not going to listen to a thing you have to say.

Something about vinegar and honey...

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no doubt, as Ben Franklin so eloquently put it, <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately</span></span>
 
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Sorry, I can't hang with you guys on a literary sense, but I would stand side by side with you guys on the capital steps or range gate with AR and Glock in hand, but I hate to tell you we won't have a chance, those elected officials will fold to public pressure and pass new laws limiting our rights, mark my words we haven't a chance. And when they put the pictures of dead 5 and year olds (and they will if it makes their case) from those awful assault weapons we are cooked. Our pleas about the second amendment and needing high cap mags because we want too don't mean squat. You are fools to think you can get away without loss of something. So think about it and decide what is the lesser of two evils, a waiting period and national registery, or against the law to own, sell or transfer, you decide.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: victory</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: victory</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So maggot, what did you do you badass American patriot when they enacted the 94 assault weapons ban?

Please tell all, so the non American patriots know what to do when they try to enact another. </div></div>

I bought 4. Sould have bought more but I was in college at the time. Made a nice bunch of $ on them when I sold them just before u know who got elected.

And you, genius? </div></div>



Wow you fucking badass patriot you. When the government was stepping all over the constitution, you bought some guns, then sold them at a profit during a gun buying frenzy. Thomas Paine would be impressed. All hail this true American. You are now the standard at which all other Americans will be held to.

"And you, genius."
Well if you had any reading comprehension you would have understood that I was 12 at the time. Let me write it again for you, "I was 12." There, does that help you?

Also that quote is a couple post above yours in case you need directions. So I did nothing because I didn't know what was going on. But I guess that is pretty much the same thing you did, but without the profit.

This time I see your tactics are different in fighting the oppressive government. This time you are going to mount the revolution yourself, starting with telling other people on Sniper's Hide that they are un American because they could live with back ground checks. The Patriots of the world applaud you sir, and the soldiers you will lead into this battle salute you. </div></div>

Actually I was just fucking with you cause your such a moron. Bwahahaahahahaa
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Teggy1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: victory</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lot of big talk going on in here.

My question is this, you are all attacking him calling him a non patriot and ball less for saying he could deal with back ground checks, where were all you patriots and bad asses when the 94 assault weapons ban was enacted?

If you didn't do shit then, you can go ahead and STFU with all this name calling. Your time was already here to take a stand, and none of you did shit. Don't act like you are all going to be outraged by longer back ground checks now.

Give me a break. </div></div>

Well, I was 13 at the time, fuck me.</div></div>



Well in 94 I already had an AR and high cap mags, I was paying 70 bucks for a 25 dollar handgun magazine to shoot IPSC, raising twins and paying for a million dollar loan on a new business I bought. After that I still built and bought Ar's, but they had non threaded barrels so they were "assault ban legal", and the idiot elected officials thought they won.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ringbearer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The statement "I don't care about longer backround checks because I plan ahead" is akin to those who are unwilling to stand against certain firearms restrictions, because they don't own them. This is the doesn't affect me crowd, that is willing to sell you out, to save themselves......today./quote]
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Horseshit.

Are you trying to tell me that just because we both shoot for sport or other reasons that I have to believe what you believe?? That is gonna be a tough sell brother.

I am not selling anybody out. Do what you want? Nobodys got a gun to your head. You have free will.

I really dont care about longer background checks. It does not mean a thing to me. I do not see it as a sanction.

I dont think that I can possibly make it any clearer than that.


Me...i'll just wait the extra day or two and go ride my dirt bike or head down to the river.
No big deal no big drama.



HOWEVER -- DMG308 has a good point </div></div>

Incrementalism, gradualism, rely on apathy
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: victory</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: victory</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So maggot, what did you do you badass American patriot when they enacted the 94 assault weapons ban?

Please tell all, so the non American patriots know what to do when they try to enact another. </div></div>

I bought 4. Sould have bought more but I was in college at the time. Made a nice bunch of $ on them when I sold them just before u know who got elected.

And you, genius? </div></div>




Wow you fucking badass patriot you. When the government was stepping all over the constitution, you bought some guns, then sold them at a profit during a gun buying frenzy. Thomas Paine would be impressed. All hail this true American. You are now the standard at which all other Americans will be held to.

"And you, genius."
Well if you had any reading comprehension you would have understood that I was 12 at the time. Let me write it again for you, "I was 12." There, does that help you?

Also that quote is a couple post above yours in case you need directions. So I did nothing because I didn't know what was going on. But I guess that is pretty much the same thing you did, but without the profit.

This time I see your tactics are different in fighting the oppressive government. This time you are going to mount the revolution yourself, starting with telling other people on Sniper's Hide that they are un American because they could live with back ground checks. The Patriots of the world applaud you sir, and the soldiers you will lead into this battle salute you. </div></div>

Actually I was just fucking with you cause your such a moron. Bwahahaahahahaa </div></div>

I just wanted to quote this brilliant tactical move, and to tell you well done good Sir, you have definitely out smarted me. You mental powers have surpassed my own, and I am left with the shame of defeat. Your bwahahaahahahaa will haunt my dreams for all eternity.
 
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How Many are old enough to remember back in 86 when they passed the Firearms Owners protection Act ? Sounded Pretty Good before 1986 if you wanted to buy a box of hand gun ammo you had to sign a log book at the store. It was the first so called pro gun law that I can remember.Since then you can buy all the ammo you want mail order YAY! before 86 you could not buy a rifle in any state but your own .Now you can buy a rifle in almost any state so long as they follow the laws of your state YAY! Also before 86 you could buy an AR15 for $400 send in your form 4 and $200 and convert it to full auto now a registered receiver is $12k to $15k BOO! in order to get ammo and cross state rifles the NRA gave up full autos because who needs a full auto right. Who needs a full auto to go deer hunting. Who needs a full auto to go duck hunting. Well they got a black eye and i don't think they have ever forgotten that . Nobody cared about full autos back then but the impact of that law was for the first time in my life a firearm was banned from being owned by a law abiding citizen in this country .Post may 86 full autos.

In 1988 or 1989 I think some guy in California went into a McDonald's and shot up a bunch of people with an AKS 47 and bush senior imposed by executive order the 1989 import ban by narrowing the definition of sporting purpose that's all he could do by executive order .There is no doubt that if a high cap and semi auto ban would have crossed his desk he would have signed it back then . Since then the american gun owner has become more aware of the desire of some to disarm us all and if you think the jack booted thugs wont come knocking on your door just ask Randy Weaver And David Koresh what they think about that. I remember the patriot movement and the rhetoric going around back then "WE CANT STAND FOR THIS , SOME ONE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ABUSE OF POWER BY THE GOVERNMENT " Bla Bla Bla and those words reached the one person that would take it upon himself to do something and allot of innocent people were killed for those who don't remember that was Oklahoma city well since then I believe that one person numbers in the tens of thousands and any law passed will be perceived as an attempt to disarm Americans and Empower The Government the only outcome is the self fulfilling prophesy Of an out of control government .At the end of the day there wont be any winners but the stage will be set and only a matter of time when some government agency tries to bully a group of people for their religious or ideological beliefs and the response will be far different than it was 20 years ago .

It is said the Greatest Generation fought a World War Against A Madman To Preserve Our Freedom And It Seems This Generation Is More Than Willing To Give It Up For The Actions Of Another

Rudy Falcon Downey Idaho USAF 1985-1992
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ringbearer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">


Sean,
You are thinking about the US 30 years ago. Those days have long gone. I was proud of it then too. These are different times. I no longer trust or respect our Govt. That is sad to say. I love our LEOs and Military and First Responders.
They are top shelf and to be respected. But saddly, our Govt is no longer that calibre.
We as a nation are going down the toilet and not because of the good people of the nation but because of the leadership.

I fear that we are in for a greater fall than Canada. 2nd ammendment is only a small part of our problems. We have a cancer and it looks like it is spreading.

At any rate, thanks for the advice.

Best wishes
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I only hope you can recognize that when you don't stand up for the things about this country that you are proud of, they go away, simple as that.

And guess what? Letting shit like this happen and just rolling over is part of the problem. Sure, it doesn't seem like a big deal, who gives a shit if you have to wait a few more days or if the government has to know more about you in order for you to buy a gun. Small beans right? FUCK THAT.

Rome wasn't built in a day, nor did it fall in one.

We are pissed because you, along with many others, don't see the writing on the wall.

Wonder why the country you were once proud of is "going down the toilet"?

Because YOU did nothing about it.
 
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WOW Mead, So the whole USA success or failure really was my responsibility/fault. Nice try. Won't fly

Let me ask you a question. When was the last time you changed the course of Congress?

Just roll over???? I never cared in the first place. I have nothing to roll over to ignore except you.

Writing on the wall. Here is my writing on the wall. There was never a day in my life (and I have had many days now) that
a waiting period or background check bothered me. Never a day.
If that bothers you please by all means be as pissed as you want to be. Jump up and down, kick the cat, dry fire until your hand blisters, call your congressman, write letters, carry a sign on the street, It is your right to do so.

These two issues mean nothing to me. They never did. They never will.

I always find it interesting when I hear this: Wonder why the country you were once proud of is "going down the toilet"?
Because YOU did nothing about it.

Please list your grand accomplishments in regard to our countrys success today. Did you write a bill, law, proposition,?
Do you lobby for the NRA? Are you in any way a government official changing the trajectory of our judicial system?
Are you any where near a Martin Luther King or John F Kennedy.

I am just not feeling like you are a game changer. But I really
do appreciate you looking down your nose at me and demanding that I be one for you.

In conclusion Mead, I said EXACTLY what I meant in the paragraph above. I don't offer even ONE appology. If you dont like it....then dont like it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Immorteq</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do what you're told son, and lick them boots. You are what the founding fathers revolted against.

"I don't have a problem with my government telling me I can't have my weapon for w/e length of time they are comfortable with."

You're a fool if you don't think that's the same thing as accepting that 2A is a privilege to be dictated by the majority. You're the minority and nobody is going to give a shit what you're comfortable with when you plainly state you have no problem accepting their discretion. After all, you're so smart you plan ahead. Rofl. You can't plan ahead (this thread is proof) because your head is up your ass. You value nothing. You have no principles. Our society suffers from the effects of your kind, to it's core. Narcissistic cowards.</div></div>

Every one needs to calm down. We have to come together. No new laws. No ban's, No new wait time. Call your congressional leaders, email, go to their local office.
They win. as soon as we start fighting each other. The enemy is at our gates. stop the BS fighting about wait times or what not. Fight the true problem. STOP THE GUN BAN. CALL YOUR CONGRESSMEN. HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS. Their is no time to wait.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My question is this, you are all attacking him calling him a non patriot and ball less for saying he could deal with back ground checks, where were all you patriots and bad asses when the 94 assault weapons ban was enacted? </div></div>

High school. I had yet to live as my own man. I was fed and I did what I was told. A couple folks here may still be in that mentality.
 
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Sniff sniff....I smell a troll.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DCR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sniff sniff....I smell a troll. </div></div>

Especially when all his posts are in the Bear Pit or Maggies....

Alot of "I", "I dont care", "I dont care this or that", "Doesnt have an effect on <span style="text-decoration: underline">me</span>." In this thread. The last time I checked "We The People". Is pretty dang prevalent in the Constitution.

I think "We" all need to get our shit together, stop arguing, get organized, and stop giving ground no matter how much the "I" does not care.
 
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The whole thing started as a discussion/question about gun checks and wait periods. Plain and simple

After about 30 pile ons and name calling I got irritated with you knuckle balls.


So then Ren,
What is your solution to keep the public and govt from taking away your gun rights?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ringbearer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The whole thing started as a discussion/question about gun checks and wait periods. Plain and simple

After about 30 pile ons and name calling I got irritated with you knuckle balls.


So then Ren,
What is your solution to keep the public and govt from taking away your gun rights?
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Your the one with the big mouth. Whats yours?
 
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Apparently Ringbearers plan is capitulation.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MtnCreek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Apparently Ringbearers plan is capitulation. </div></div>

He must be French
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Excuse me Ren, they cannot take my rights. Only God can take them. I can give them up but only mine, not yours, or anyone elses. I got a concealed permit last year after 40 years of being armed "illegaly". Got worried about how much $ getting busted would cost.Once you ask for permission. it can be denied or revoked.
 
Re: Stricter Gun Backround Checks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MtnCreek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>

He must be French
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Baaa ha ha

Hey maggot

French this:

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Re: Stricter Gun Backround Checks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ringbearer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MtnCreek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>

He must be French
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Baaa ha ha

Hey maggot

French this:

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Too meaty for my taste, youll have to talk to Shankster about that one. Who, btw, I havent seen around for several days...is he banned again?
 
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When is everyone going to realize that criminals do not follow laws? Fine, have a ONE YEAR wait time and see what that does to criminals.

I can go to a car lot, or individual, and pay in cash (hell even steal it) for a car. Then drive the car over to the gas station, fill 'er up and get a 32 oz soda and a 12 pack of PBR ( Hey, I like PBR!!)

Then I can proceed to get drunk as hell and drive my car into a mini-van full of soccer moms and kids. Happens all the fucking time. And all without any kind of wait time. Hell, I can do that within an hour. But, were is the outrage?

According to the electronic signs all over Knoxville, there were 1000 (ONE THOUSAND) road deaths last year. Where is the out rage? When do we ban cars? or gas? or beer?

Please, we have to take back control of the situation and talk in a rational manner to people who wish to do this. If you don't have a way to defend youself, I am going to come and find you and take what I want. Thats the ONLY mindset of a criminal.
 
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Match

We get that felons dont follow rules.

This thred is about public outcry and a motivated Govt to make a motion against the 2a.

I was talking about wait time and backround check but they may do much more.

Origionally I was asking if you guys would mind a 3-5 day wait and backround check

BUT

In the current light of things it may be much more than that. Biden and and buch of others have a tremendous momentum. They are looking for sanctions.

99% of the guys here are saying give Nothing. I get that!

But what if the Govt says you have to give something.

I doubt that this thing is going to blow over that easily.
Not this time.
With another shool shooting yesterday its more gas on the fire.

Something is going to give. I hope that it is not an AR ban
or mags but something will be sacrificed to the public to quiet them down.


Disclaimer: I support and want all gun rights to remain the same

Reality Check: I dont think that is going to be possible in todays current situation.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1236</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Excuse me Ren, they cannot take my rights. Only God can take them. <span style="color: #990000">I can give them up but only mine, not yours, or anyone elses</span>. I got a concealed permit last year after 40 years of being armed "illegaly". Got worried about how much $ getting busted would cost.Once you ask for permission. it can be denied or revoked. </div></div>

And that is the fallacy! When Tom Brokaw was in an interview with David Gregory and stated that even gun owners want to see a ban, can't you see how that effects us all?

Here is an analogy for you. If the quarterback on our team suddenly throws in the towel, or starts playing for the other team, don't you see how that effects the whole team? The "I" fucking quit, and it effects all of us!





First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.


Can you see how many "I"'s are in this very true statement! There needs to be a united "WE" instead of a bunch of "I"'s circle jerking!
 
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Ringbearer

The gov't can only take from us what we give them. They are powerless to stop all criminal acts. So what do they do? They come after everyone. When does it stop? When good, law abiding citizens says it stops.

Sure, they are going to want something. But why give it do them. They are no different than some untrained child that screams and cries "unfair" whenever they do not get their way. This has nothing to do with safety. The sooner people understand that, the better.

Fact is, the gov't wants you completely unarmed. You think it will end with a cap and ball musket? Hell no. Some panty pissing liberal will want that too ,"for the children."

As an aside, the idiots in DC decided for me that my taxes are going to increase by 2400 a year. I had no say-so in that matter. To beat it all, this liberal leaning friend of my says that it's not that much, and other people need it more. Fuck that. Who need it? The fat cat bankers? Oil companies? Unions? Some individual that has no work ethic? Yeah, they got my money.

So back to the compromise. Those people don't compromise our way. They say "hey, give us 90 percent of your rights, or we TAKE it all." That's not compromise. That's and act of...
 
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The Govt has a tremendous amount of power!!!
And they can lay sanctions on you that will make your head spin.

I dont view govt as a crying child. I veiw them as having a big f'n hammer that that seldom swings the direction that I wish it would.

That being said: I do not think that they are trying to take guns away. I think that they are trying to make sanctions to apease the large section of population that does not understand guns or want them.
This being mostly due to the children being killed at Sandy Hook. This was primed by several mass killings previously but Sandy Hook was the linch pin that started us off in this direction.





 
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Ringbearer. Could you please put your correct location in your profile? Middle earth isnt really a good location.

 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ren</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ringbearer. Could you please put your correct location in your profile? Middle earth isnt really a good location.

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Considering his position and comments it may well be where he resides.
 
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Ring:

They only have what we allowed them to have. When let a neighbor borrow something, and they choose to abuse it or not give it back, it's called theft. When stop asking to borrow shit, and just start taking it, you have two options...
 
Re: Stricter Gun Backround Checks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ringbearer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That being said: I do not think that they are trying to take guns away. I think that they are trying to make sanctions to apease the large section of population that does not understand guns or want them.
This being mostly due to the children being killed at Sandy Hook. This was primed by several mass killings previously but Sandy Hook was the linch pin that started us off in this direction.

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^^^LOL.

I was empathetic (though didn't agree) with your position until you said that. You're delusional if you don't think that an unarmed populace is the goal of this and many other governments. HISTORY tells us this is true, time and time again.

You really think this is because of Sandy Hook? Really? Again, one only need look to history to know how deadly wrong you are.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ringbearer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WOW Mead, So the whole USA success or failure really was my responsibility/fault. Nice try. Won't fly

Let me ask you a question. When was the last time you changed the course of Congress?

Just roll over???? I never cared in the first place. I have nothing to roll over to ignore except you.

Writing on the wall. Here is my writing on the wall. There was never a day in my life (and I have had many days now) that
a waiting period or background check bothered me. Never a day.
If that bothers you please by all means be as pissed as you want to be. Jump up and down, kick the cat, dry fire until your hand blisters, call your congressman, write letters, carry a sign on the street, It is your right to do so.

These two issues mean nothing to me. They never did. They never will.

I always find it interesting when I hear this: Wonder why the country you were once proud of is "going down the toilet"?
Because YOU did nothing about it.

Please list your grand accomplishments in regard to our countrys success today. Did you write a bill, law, proposition,?
Do you lobby for the NRA? Are you in any way a government official changing the trajectory of our judicial system?
Are you any where near a Martin Luther King or John F Kennedy.

I am just not feeling like you are a game changer. But I really
do appreciate you looking down your nose at me and demanding that I be one for you.

In conclusion Mead, I said EXACTLY what I meant in the paragraph above. I don't offer even ONE appology. If you dont like it....then dont like it.

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Perhaps you didn't quite understand the point I was trying to make.

If you do nothing, you are part of the reason the US is like it is today. There are obviously things you don't enjoy about the country, and believe me, you aren't the only one. My question to you; What did you do when these issues came up before our legislators?

If the answer is nothing, I don't really think you're in a position to complain about the condition of our country.

As for me? I have done, and will be doing the last three things on your list, calling congressmen, writing letters, and carrying signs (in addition to voting). It is my right, but also my responsibility as an American.

It might not seem like much, but if it's all you can do, then I say do it.

I apologize if I offended you.
 
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my vote: No, I do not view any waiting periods or additional checks for law abiding citizens as being acceptable in any circumstance.
Criminals are not getting background checks.
Hell, if you know where to go, you could buy a firearm out of the back of a van in downtown Atlanta (probably one of the one's stolen from the train yard last month) without a background check as long as you had the cash....
These fools need to concentrate on the criminal element of society & leave everyone else alone...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Ringbearer said:
I apologize if I offended you. </div></div>


Mead
We may not agree but You & me are cool.
And same with the rest of tthe guys here.
These lil skirmishes are not a big deal in total sceme of things.
Thanks for the response.
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