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Rifle Scopes Millett TRS1 The test Concludes

Re: Millett TRS1 The test Concludes

There is one small benefit to purchasing one's own gear. It's mine. I own it. Where I go, it goes. Have rifle, will snipe for food, or beer, or....well I'd better stop there.

Just kidding.

Happy Memorial Day to all.

HRF
 
Re: Millett TRS1 The test Concludes

hrfunk, THANKS for doing this thread and keeping it alive. I had ordered one of these scopes several years ago (and posted here) before Bushnell bought Millett. Needless to say, it had a canted reticle and I had to return it for money back and was pissed.

Fast fwd to now. Talked to a rep at SWFA and read your thread. Bought it based on the better QC, Bushnell ownership and all the above quoted in this and the other thread and bought another one.

Got it today. NO CANTED RETICLE! Moved elevation/windage turrets and they were positive clicks, little to no mush. Paralax and power knobs all good.

My new Choate stock comes in this week too, so I will be mounting and boresighting it up in a few days. I will test the glass around the area here and see how the scope does in the light and with distance/power changes/etc.

I am not a real sniper, not leo, etc....I'm just a middle aged prior service Army soldier/officer that loves to shoot, marksmanship and to reload, etc. I also have kids in college, etc...so for me, this scope fit the price point and features for what I wanted to pair up with my Savage 10FP. Practical and cost effective. Lastly, I need to learn my long range shooting craft better before I explore buying a NF or premium optic.

THX to all that offered up valued commentary on this and the other thread.
 
Re: Millett TRS1 The test Concludes

I'd like to say thanks as well. I'm new to long range shooting and don't feel like spending a ton of money for my first higher powered rifle scope (just picked up a Rem700 SPS Varmint in .308 a week ago) that will be doing hunting duty as well.

Looking for a proper review on the Millet, I found a lot of 1 or 2 sentence conclusions that didn't really offer much insight. After reading your in-depth review however, I now know what to expect and will picking one up. Sounds like a great value to start with that will help offset the cost of gathering everything else that I need. Thanks again for taking the time!
 
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You're both most welcome! Sorry I didn't see this sooner or I wouldn't have waited so long to respond. I wish you both the best of luck with your new scopes. Be sure to post your thoughts and observations. I'm sure a lot of people would like to hear about your experiences as well.

HRF
 
HRF
I just wanted to also thank you for a great thread. You have a great writing style! Nice to see you approach the subject without prejudice. I also thank you for your LE exploits.
I am a casual target shooter with a great collection of very accurate rifles. I also reload 29 different calibers, the latest being .17 Hornet. Great little round...
I have purchased the following Milletts within the last year: 2 LRS-1s and 2 TRS-1s. I have just about other every brand from Burris to Barska. For some reason, I just love to dabble in the medium price models. I also have 2 Vortex Vipers. These are also fantastic. I have done so much research into this market segment, it make my head swim.
The Milletts continue to perform without ANY issues. One 'complaint' I have heard about the LRS-1s, is the fact that they come with a very high set of rings. 35 mm rings are scarce and expensive. However a call to Millett's VERY friendly CS line and they sent me two sets of 35 mm low rings for free! How can you beat that?
The last Viper I bought (new) 6.5-20X50 mm, was purchased at the same time as a new Nikon Monarch in the same spec range. As I usually do, I grabbed a bunch of 'spare' scopes along with the new ones. At work, we have a nice, private range. Several of my co-workers (who are hunters/shooters) looked through this gaggle of scopes at some different targets at 75 yards. Some in the shade, some in direct sun. Nice, bright Florida day. All the scopes were set at the same magnification/focus to keep the results as consistent as possible. Cost of the scopes was not disclosed until this exercise was over.
The Monarch was sent back the next day. It wasn't really 'bad', it just wasn't 'great', and was very 'toy like' next to the Vortex and Millett, especially considering the price.
One thing that REALLY surprised me, was how much the guys liked the Wally World, Center Point! After I disclosed the cost of each scope, the guys kept asking "HOW much is this one??"
For hunting up in a Florida tree, the CP is probably as much as most guys around here would ever need.
Of course, they are NOT in LE!!! I thought about all the scopes I have and I probably should have spent the money on 3 or 4 NF jobs. ha ha
I put new rings on each scope and since I have several of the same model rifles, it's easy to swap them around.

Thanks again!! I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of a Hawke Sidewinder. Haven't tried one of those yet......

ron
 
Of the 5 mid range scopes I have, in terms of optical clarity only, my subjective comparisons at high power at 1000 yards are as follows:

1st Millet TRS 4-16x50, 30mm tube, atac camo- clearest at highest power 16x, also clearest at 14x to fairly compare with the Burris E1. Note: 16x clear, heavy scope, clicks mushy/hard to hear. Repeatable at the range despite feel. I have two, currently Mounted on a M&P 308 and a Savage 22-250. Held zero so far, even after the 308 hit the ground at the range. Left it centered on bipod, which shifted to the side and fell off of the table onto concrete. Kept zero.

2nd Burris E1 Fullfield II 4.5-14x42, 1" tube -might only be second place because 42mm objective and 1" tube vs. Millets's 50mm obj and 30mm tube. Note: Best eyebox-despite 4.5x min power, can easily acquire close targets very quickly applying BAC, would work well on AR platform, neat reticle, very light, no resetable turrets. Currently on daughter's 7mm-08. Held zero so far.

3rd Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50, 30mm tube - really tie with the Burris in image quality, but I gave it 3rd place due to its 50mm obj and 30mm tube, so I felt it should have been better given the larger sizes. Note: Tied best click feel/sound turrets, 2nd coolest turrets, capped pop ups. Felt a little flimsy when popping them up though. Gets slightly cloudy at max power (As well as the Viper PSTs I have looked through, not impressed with Vortex at high power except for the Razor.)

4th Nikon Monarch 4-20x44-surprised me since highest price I paid of them all. Note: Tied best eyebox-despite 5x min power, can easily acquire close targets very quickly applying BAC, would work well on AR platform, light, comes with tacticle turrets. Tough, have had on my 338 WM, now on my 300 WM, recoil has yet to affect reticle. 300WM is my primary big game rifle, it has seen some abuse, dropped, landed on, ATV scabbards, horse scabbards, etc. Tied best click feel/sound turrets. Not pop-up though. Absolutely need sun shade if aiming west after 3pm in November!

5th Nitrex TR2 (superslam) 3-15x50-surpised me also, since the superslam would have been the most expensive, but I got this nitrex tr2 on closeout. Clarity just slightly behind Nikon. Tied best click feel/sound turrets. Pop-up turrests were the coolest, though not zero stop just reset to zero like nikon. No need for caps. Fairly light for 50mm objective and handles the 338 WM recoil fine though.

Clarity at low power are great for all of the above. No real difference with any of them. I hear the Millets are tough and should be able to take the magnum recoil. However, I feel they are too heavy for hunting since I tend to cover many miles carrying the gun. Rifle rig is heavy enough without adding another pound to the system.

What I find most amazing is that the clarity at high settings ranked almost opposite of price. The cheapest had the best high mag clarity, followed by the second least expensive (my first Burris, I am impressed, really want to see the Veracity models.) Was happy with Nikon clarity until I did the side by side comparison. Really disappointed in the Weaver though. For a $500-650 scope, should really have better clarity IMHO.

I agree with hrfunk, nice scope for the money. Better than a lot of scopes that cost twice as much. I think I saw the ATAC model on sale for 219.00 somewhere too!