Rifle Scopes NF F1or Vortex

[backyardsniper]

I am pretty much set on an F1 but I have had several people recomend the Vortex razor. Since they do make it in an MOA reticle I suppose it could be a contender in this race. I never really viewed the vortex as a serious scope, kind of like the swfa. I just couldn't own anything called a super sniper, for a long time I just assumed it was some how related to the countersniper scope. Anyway, Is the vortex razor really in the same ballpark as the nightforce and really worth considering. I have used owned two USO and a nxs5-22 so I'm not new to this but I have never personally handled a razor scope. I did have a vortex 1-4 on an AR and It was a nice scope. Is the durability, clarity, tracking and such of these vortex really on par with the NF

 

[RobertB]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

Myself, I would go NF and not look back. Never had a Razor and I have heard alot of good things about them but with my 5 or 6 Nf's all doing exactly what I wanted for me there would be no reason to look away. Good luck.

 

[42769vette]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

My situation is not quite apples to apples to yours, but I traded my 5.5-22x56 nsx for a razor and it is the best decision ive made in a long time. I mainly did it for the ffp, but was plesantally supprised with the rest of the scope. If I had it to do over I would defintally go with the razor again

 

[backyardsniper]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

Would you have been happier with the NXS if it were a FFP or do you like the razor better as a scope also not just the FFP

 

[JLR]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

FWIW, I played with them both at SHOT and really wanted to like the Vortex due to the FFP and 20x but the turrets just felt terrible. If you can live with 15x, I'd recommend the F1.

 

[Chiller]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

Have owned both.....now just own 3 Razors....

 

[rgrmike]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

To me the turrets on the NF are just simply better. If you dial a lot then the NF will keep you very happy.

 

[Chiller]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rgrmike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To me the turrets on the NF are just <span style="color: #CC0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">simply bet</span>ter</span>. If you dial a lot then the NF will keep you very happy. </div></div>

Elaborate?

Have had both....have not found that to be the case. Opinion based, would love to hear the justification.

 

[42769vette]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: backyardsniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would you have been happier with the NXS if it were a FFP or do you like the razor better as a scope also not just the FFP </div></div>

Had the NSX been FFP I still think the Razor would be a better scope, but it would have been very close.

My turrent on My Razor are as good (not better) than my NSX was.

 

[Quickdraw40]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/750867/...t-reticle-matte

For the same price, you should add this to your options (Steiner)...

 

[E. Bryant]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

I have both. I am extremely happy with both. I think both have good turret feel, they both have approximately the same level of difficulty/hassle in setting the zero stop, and both have the sort of heft that I associate with bomb-proof construction. The Razor does have illumination with field-adjustable intensity, so it has a slight advantage in this area. I also prefer the ocular focus adjustment of the Razor. I like the way that the entire ocular bell of the Nightforce rotates when adjusting the power. I find the glass of both to be completely acceptable.

Given the similarities in quality, performance, and price, I'd give the nod to either one based upon the respective power ranges and reticle preferences.

 

[Kiba]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JLR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FWIW, I played with them both at SHOT and really wanted to like the Vortex due to the FFP and 20x but the turrets just felt terrible. If you can live with 15x, I'd recommend the F1. </div></div>

Which model, the 5 or 10 mil Razor?

I would say the 5 mil Razor turrets feel just as good as any NXS I've had, solid and positive. The 10 mil Razor isn't as good IMO as the 5 mil model when it comes to turret feel.

Having owned/used both my preference is the Razor.

 

[backyardsniper]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

Well after a lengthy pm conversation with a fella on here I have decided to go with a vortex viper pst in 6-24ffp and probably a 2.5-10 of the same flavor. I thank you all for your help. I feel that for the applications I will be using this for the weight and features of these scopes will better suit my needs and being able to buy two of them for less than what one of the other cost is a huge bonus as well.

Thanks again

 

[Quickdraw40]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3832309&gonew=1#UNREAD

 

[Doyputasos]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

I've been waiting on a 6-24 FFP PST from Vortex since December. I can't wait. It will be the first serious piece of glass that I have owned. Not to hijack, but I was hoping one of you vortex owners could tell me which butler creek cap sizes I would need. Thanks

 

[30calDeath]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: backyardsniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am pretty much set on an F1 but I have had several people recomend the Vortex razor. Since they do make it in an MOA reticle I suppose it could be a contender in this race. I never really viewed the vortex as a serious scope, kind of like the swfa. I just couldn't own anything called a super sniper, for a long time I just assumed it was some how related to the countersniper scope. Anyway, Is the vortex razor really in the same ballpark as the nightforce and really worth considering. I have used owned two USO and a nxs5-22 so I'm not new to this but I have never personally handled a razor scope. I did have a vortex 1-4 on an AR and It was a nice scope. Is the durability, clarity, tracking and such of these vortex really on par with the NF </div></div>

I am kind of confused seeing as you said that you have owned a Vortex product in the past. Many nice scope manufacturers out there, that said I bought the new Vortex Razor 1-6x and its awesome. I have not even had a chance to shoot past 2-300 yards yet but will soon. It was either a 1-6 or 1-8 or the Nightforce 2.5-10 for my 16" LWRC REPR. Did you not like your Vortex? The Razor line is so far really nice and the customer service from what I hear is outstanding....that was a big factor in why I bought my Razor. In the future I hope to own the USO 1-8x, the NF 2.5-10 or both. I dont think you can go wrong with Vortex.

 

[427Cobra]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

I own both, 5.5-22x50 NPR1 and Razor EBR3, I vastly perfer the Razor over my Nightforce, glass wise is a wash, but all the little things like marked numbers on the paralax(I know there mostly for show but I like them), easy to adjust illumination, zero stop(not available on NF when I bought my scope), FFP, and a separate magnification ring which also the one thing I perfer on NF which is the ocular adjustmant, because its set and forget with almost no chance being jacked with, I sold my Premier 5-25, I hated the 10 mil turret, so on my Razor I got the 5 mil turret.

 

[oneshot.onehit]

Re: NF F1or Vortex

Both Vortex and Night Force scopes in question are well made.

Not assuming or going off of hear say I would like to add.

Having the opportunity to compare the two side by side in normal light and in limited light situations they where very close in comparison with the Razor edging out ahead at the very limited light conditions, this was more then likely do to the 35mm tube allowing a little more light through in this limited condition.

Setting the zero stop while confirming your 100 yard zero on the Razor is as simple as loosening 3 set screws in the turret cap pulling it off and loosening the internal cap and dialing the internal cap to adjust for a hit on your target when done retighten, place the external cap back on, line up the zero hash retighten – pretty easy

You can run the hell out of the turret working your elevation corrections up and down and with a solid stop when hitting zero without confusion or question. Both have dependable turrets. Having the 5 mil versus 10 mil rev is a personal, ran both and still preferred the 5 mil. even with corrections beyond 1760 and under pressure. Again the travel ends up being a personal opinion of the operator.

Our group consist of Vortex Razors and Night Force NXS, and they are ran hard with a variety of temps from below zero to 90-100 in the heat from down pours to mud and dirt and a ton of heat and dust.

The Vortex Razor has worked well for me with a 338LM setup with the EBR-3 reticle and two 260s with the EBR-2.


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