Rifle Scopes Which Vortex Viper PST for this gun?

[Inzaneriderz]

Hey guys, I was just curious which Vortex Viper PST you guys would suggest for this rig... originally I was dead set on the 6-24x50 but they I got to thinking about the 4-16. Mostly it will be used for shooting paper at the range, but I would eventually like to push the gun to a long distance capability ...maybe 600 yards? further if it/I can make it, and of course in defensive situations if the world would end (this is not my only one I have several with EO Techs, several with 4X ACOGS... gun is a 20" lilja bull barrel, 1/8 twist, on seekins receivers... thanks in advance

 

[Inzaneriderz]

Re: Which Vortex Viper PST for this gun?

.223 btw

 

[Ed-G]

Re: Which Vortex Viper PST for this gun?

6-24, you gain alot on the high-end and loose some field of view on the low end. It sure looks like its set-up for the high-end.

 

[Valere]

Re: Which Vortex Viper PST for this gun?

You can easily get to 600 yards with a 16x scope. My biggest hesitation recommending a 24x scope is whether or not the rifle is capable of exploiting the benefits of the added magnification vs. the costs of any added size or weight. Personally, for your described purposes with a rifle chambered in .223, I wouldn't go above 16x if it meant any additional size or weight.

Really nice looking rig btw.

 

[jimmykm21]

Re: Which Vortex Viper PST for this gun?

I would go the 6 x 24
you can always dial down but it's nice to have the extra magnification
for certain days when mirage isn't a big problem.

I shoot a 3 x 12 on one of my AR's but there are those certain times I would like the additional magnification.

 

[42769vette]

Re: Which Vortex Viper PST for this gun?

my thoughts would be 4-16 ffp, but 6-24 would not be the wrong answer either

 

[BCP]

Re: Which Vortex Viper PST for this gun?

6-24x50 PST.

 

[LOLCATZ]

I would recommend the 4-16. You have more than enough magnification to reach as far as a .223 is going to go while still having enough to get a decent sight picture relatively close.



Someone school me on why people think this guy needs that much magnification on a .223 when he is obviously not getting 1000 out of a 5.56?

 

[Slick17]

Either or would be great. I have the 6-24 FFP and love it. I've heard that the 4-16 has a lower quality glass, but I've never actually seen one.

Lolcatz- A good marksman can reach out to 1000 yards accurately with the .223 round. It can be more of a challenge, but can be done. Most people with the 6-24 power scopes actually don't use it on the highest power. You will lose FOV (field of view) if you do. But it is a nice quality scope.

 

[SquidHC]

I would certainly argue that you could hit a 1000 yard target with a .223. That said, I have the 6-24 on my bolt gun and put it on an AR for fun. I was displeased. In fact, out to 300 I would seriously consider the 1-4, but if you want to go out to say 600 the 4x16 would certainly get the job done. If the stuff does hit the fan, you should have zero issues hitting torso sized targets at 600 yards at 16x (or less). Major suggestion, purchase the magnification throw lever for the extra $60 bucks. Helps make quick changes in magnification smooth as butter.

 

[GentleBen]

A lot of you guys who recommend 4-16 must be younger with good eyesight. When you get to 50 years on up (I'm 62), you start to really like those 24x and 25x power scopes ... at any range.

So I would answer, how old are you and how long are you expecting to keep the rifle. If a lifetime gun, get the highest power you can afford and save up for an even better one for later.

IMO, go with the 6-24x50 PST in second focal plane if you're just shooting paper at known distance at a range.

 

[wilsey]

6-24

I have 6-24 PST on my LAR-15 .223
I really like the extra magnification when I want to use it.
Great scopes for the money.

 

[Enough Said]

You can easily get to 600 yards with a 16x scope. My biggest hesitation recommending a 24x scope is whether or not the rifle is capable of exploiting the benefits of the added magnification vs. the costs of any added size or weight. Personally, for your described purposes with a rifle chambered in .223, I wouldn't go above 16x if it meant any additional size or weight.

Really nice looking rig btw.

^^^^^ This.

 

[SWThomas]

I vote 4-16 for your set up.

 

[samnev]

I bought a Vortex PST FFP 4-16X50 for mt Armalite AR10A4. Sorry now I didn't get the 6-24X50 .I have had several instances where I would have loved the added magnification.

 

[Dollman]

My brother uses the 6-24X50 PST in Mill/Mill on his AR10 and loves it.

 

[greggrissom]

Here is my recommendation. Flip a coin and then buy it. If you don't like the one that won the toss. I'll buy it from ya'.

 

[MWM-5150]

Either will suit you well, just depends on how much high end mag. you feel you need...
My vote would be for the 4-16 since I wanted the 4x on the low end. You're needs for the optic may vary...
I recently purchased a 4-16 for my .308 from Scott at Liberty Optics (THANK YOU SCOTT!) and I've been very pleased thus far.

There are those who have said the 6-24 glass is better...how much better, I guess, is arguable. I've not personally done a side-by-side comparison of the two.

ps-Nice choice on the color. did the same on my .308 with black furniture and it looks sharp. Kudos.

 

[bunsen27]

It's better to have more magnification and not use it, than to need more magnification and not have it. I'd persoanlly much rather have 8x more on the top end than just 2x on the bottom end. You really can't go wrong with either but the extra 8x will enable you to more easily range estimate targets, spot bullet holes in paper at distance, and allow for more precise aiming on smaller targets at range.

To throw another Vortex into the mix take a look at the Viper HS LR w/ XLR reticule. It is a PST without illumination and 1/2 MOA elevation turret (1/4 MOA windage).

I run the PST on my LR-308 and the HS LR on my .260Rem Bolt gun. I'm paitiently waiting for Vortex to get XLR production caught up so I can swap the ERB-1 reticule in the PST for an XLR.

 

[SHWILL]

My vote is 4X16

 

[RobG]

Having had both, I would go the 6-24. Side by side the 6-24 had better glass, clarity, and image quality. At 300 I could see 308 holes with the 6-24 and not with the 4-16 at the same magnification. I would generally run the 6-24 at about 20-22x and liked the thickness of the reticle there as opposed to the 4-16 reticle thickness at 16x. Both start to tunnel a bit at max mag meaning the 4-16 was about right at 14x and 6-24 at 20-22x. It is a bit heavier and longer but looking at your rig, going light weight does not look to be a major issue for you. I guess you have to decide; lose a bit on the lower mag/bottom end with the 6-24 or gain a bunch on top vs. the 4-16. I would think most would be inclined to go more mag while trying to spot .22 holes.