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Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

CaptLevi

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Hello guys, I'd like to start by saying that I'm a long time lurker. I've spent the past 4 years soaking up all the knowledge my small mind can handle from reading these forums and searching different subjects.

First, let me tell you what my shooting experience is, my current setup, and what I am looking for in a rifle.

I am currently shooting a Remington 5R (yes I'm another newbie with an off the shelf rifle)

There are about 2k rounds down the tube, it's setup with a Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x50 with nightforce rings and base. I shoot 400 yards often, and my longest stretch was 1228 shooting a 3ft piece of flagstone. I've grown up with guns in my hands... I'm just a typical redneck with to many guns. But, I'm on the market for something bigger and beter as I've recently found a place I can call coyotes and see them coming from at least a mile off. So that's why I'm looking to upgrade into something that will reach out and touch at a bit farther distance. Yes I've learned that with good hand loads you can push such calibers like the 7mm wsm out there etc. Even then I have had a want for a Lapua for a long time, can I justify the cost of the rifle? The ammo? Yes...the poor sheep need someone to dust the yotes' for them don't they? And we all have to have at least one very high power rig in the safe.

So now that you all know who I am and what I'm about.

I am very interested in the TRG 42, BUT the base price of the rifle, plus the brake, bipod, and all the Sako bs that costs twice what normal equipment would has me thinking I'd spend upwards of 4k on the setup. So now I'm thinking I could build a more "custom" rifle for about the same cost, and get it set up how I want it.

Very long story short, if I were to do a custom build, how good of a deal can I get without cutting major corners? I want a turn key rifle that shoots 3/4moa...meaning it may be capable of 1/4, but I am a day in day out 5/8-3/4 kind of shooter. If I'm not drinking coffee and I take my time to actually practice fundamentals.


Who would you have do the build? what action? I really like the mcbros stocks as they fit me well, I'd like to keep it in the 15lb range, and spend no more than 4k on the rifle itself. If need be I'd spend more, but let's start there,

Any input is welcome, and I know these questions have been asked before. I've searched many times and just can't seem to come up with a solid number for the rifle, I am dead set on Nightforce optics, I've had one for 5 years now and it's had a beating and still tracks true and shoots where the mil dots are placed.

I will be reloading my own ammo, so I'm not worried about ammo cost and all that bull.

If anyone has pictures of your build, and details of how it's set up please share.

Thank you for bearing with my long winded question. I'm all ears here and wanting your suggestions. (the good, bad, and ugly) I will take them all into consideration.

Thanks, L
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

I have been looking into black ops tactical and gap... But not sure if there are some other options I need to check into.....
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

Both are great options, going the custom route your looking at 5-6000 dollars minimum for just the rifle. Reloading components for the Lapua are expensive too, especially the brass. The 338 takes a very large action and Surgeon, Badger, Stiller make some nice actions for it.

Another option is to shop for a used one, they come up often. I bought a Savage 110fcp just to see how I like the lapua without the huge investment of a custom gun. I'm on the fence whether I want to have a custom 338 built or not, I might go to a custom 300wm instead of 338lapua and call it good.
 
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Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

I would personally go custom with an action specific to your needs such as a Stiller TAC-338. I would have Mark Gordon at Short Action Customs build it. Here are a few pics of mine.

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Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

STR, that rifle is beautiful, so what im gathering is that a 4 k budget for rifle alone is not going to work..lol
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

I went with a TRG and couldn't be happier. The gun is a steal at around 3k but the attachments, which I didn't buy, are far from a good deal. Went with a Near-Manufacturing 25MOA base which is fantastic and of very high quality; borrowed the NXS 5.5x22 scope/rings from the TAC-50 then added an AAC Titan-QD brake for the QD can. Midway has Lapua brass for $257/100 (actually a good deal considering a dozen reloads are normal if you anneal them). The Sako TRG probably has the best resale value out there...........custom stuff may be a little (very little) better; but face it, for the price of a custom gun you can get a TRG with a great piece of glass or a can (maybe both) for less. If you don't like it, sell the gun and keep the can/glass for the next project without being out very much if any.
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CaptLevi</div><div class="ubbcode-body">STR, that rifle is beautiful, so what im gathering is that a 4 k budget for rifle alone is not going to work..lol </div></div>

Nope but it will kick a build off then give you some time to get the rest of the money.
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

Not from the above mentioned smiths. Your biggest hold back is the cost of a lapua sized action they run from $1000-1800 alone. I do not recommend a Remington for the lapua because it is not designed for that big of a cartridge, but it can be done.
Shop for a used custom built 338, be patient and you'll pick one up in your budget, that's what I would do with your budget.
 
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Do you want a mag fed system, or can you live with a single shot? If you're going to be shooting at a mile or beyond, a quick second shot is not needed. The additional strength from a single shot action (without the bottom missing for mag feeding) is a plus for potential accuracy. Plus it'll save you the cost of a DBM system. A single shot will also allow you to choose a custom reamer to pull the bullet out of the case for more boiler room.

You can build a custom for $4K. I recommend Mark Gordon at SAC. Great guy that builds a hell of a rifle!
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

I was going to go 338....then I looked into ammo / reloading costs.

I ended up with a 6.5 Creedmoor. Cuz I like to shoot. Not save money so that one day I'll be able to shoot.
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

You could have a custom built for less than 4k for rifle alone. I had Gap build me a Badger M2008 with me buying all the components for just over 4k. And if you went a stiller tac338 you can knock off 200. Plus I spent a bit extra on the barrel and stock so maybe 3600 u could do it for.
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CaptLevi</div><div class="ubbcode-body">STR, that rifle is beautiful, so what im gathering is that a 4 k budget for rifle alone is not going to work..lol </div></div>

This is what I have in mine.

Stock $750.00
Action $ 1050.00
Trigger $ 125.00
Barrel $$450.00
Brake $ 160.00
BM APA $225.00

Total $2760.00

I'm sure you can get it built by one of the many fine smiths here for about 1K. The rest will be shipping back and fourth. I think you can do it for about 4K.
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

BTW, thank you for the compliment, but I didn't come up with the idea for the build. I saw the exact same rifle here on a previous post, and just copied it. Again thank you.
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

If you bought all the components yourself, you could easily build one for $4k, gunsmithing included, even with a Surgeon XL action.

You might want to consider 300 Norma. It goes the distance of a 338 Lapua but isn't as expensive to shoot. Of course, if you need the 338 Lapua's energy downrange that's a different story.
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

A 338 is a costly beast, I'm just not sure about the 6K minimum comment. Total mine came to around that price (glass and all). But that is nothing when compared to the cost of feeding such a beast. So think before you leap. 1 mile shots can be made using a more ecnomical round and rifle, especially seeing as you don't need much energy for yotes. Things to consider are rounds like the 300 and 7mm magnums. Those rounds can be cheaper to shoot and equally effective for small game and extreme distances.
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

I have less than 4K in mine. It was built by GAP using Manners T4-A stock, Defiance action (I debated between Defiance and Surgeon and went with the Defiance after handling both), Bartlien (spelling?) barrel, Badger FTE brake, rings, base, and M5 bottom metal. Even with a 5-25x56 PM-II I was under 7K to my door.
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

CaptLevi
You will find several people on this forum whom had a custom .338 LM build around the $4000 mark but it is not the norm. You will have to call and look around but stick with reputable builders, there are several and it would not be fair to give names, as I probably would forgot a few and I do not know all of them.
The TRG 42 is also a good option at around $3000; you do not have to go with the Sako bipod, even though it is an excellent but expensive choice at $450. A good muzzle brake (Sako is around $150) is a must with a .338 LM but it doesn't brake the bank, as well as a good scope base of 35 to 45 MOA (make sure that your scope can handle the 45 MOA, for closer shots). Your highest expense will come from shooting; even if you are reloading, it does not come cheap but that is the price to pay when you shoot such a big boy. The .338 has a decent barrel life compared to some other calibers and has the punch to annihilate just about anything at a mile.
Your situation is still looking good, keep on looking around; I hope I helped you some.
Good shooting.
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Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

I don't really have a dog in this fight, as I don't have one but if I was wanting a .338LM I would go with the Desert Tactical arms system in .338 and another conversion for it in a smaller caliber
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

What is the barrel life typically on a .338 lapua rifle. I know there's extreme variations in barrel material, as well as manufacturing methods, but what is average.

I just picked up an MRAD and wondering if I load toward the lighter side what effect it will have.
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

I've got a custom built 338lm built by EFI,LLC with a left handed Stiller Tac338 action. I paid around $3600 for it but that was after two other people had bailed on this build. I am not left handed but with the Mcmillan A2 stock it's not an issue. Krieger fluted barrel,Vais brake. I just got it zeroed last weekend and with the only ammo I can find local-Hornady Match 285gr bthp,it has been very,very accurate so far.

I waited 11 months for this beast and could not be happier. It has been a long time since my face hurt from smiling so much. I love this rifle.
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

Lots of good comments and advice. I've been very happy with the 338LM that I had Mark and the guys at Accurate Ordnance build for me.

Rough numbers for my build:

AICS 2.0 CIP Chassis: $1100 delivered
Stiller TAC338 with 20MOA base action: $1050 delivered
Bartlein 9.5 twist barrel: $565 delivered
Timney trigger: $125 delivered
APA Fat Bastard Brake: $125 delivered

Total for the parts, excluding optics on mine came to just under $3000. Gunsmithing was about another grand with Cerakote etc. included so if you get lucky and shop right you can get one built for right about $4k or so.

Then comes the fun of paying for optics, rings, suppressor, spotting scope, Vectronix..and on and on it goes!

Definitely want to reload for this one too IMO. While getting started is expensive, especially now, the costs do drop dramatically in feeding it especially if you are reloading other calibers and can spread the cost of the basic gear like the press, scale, etc. across them all.
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

Currently I shoot a Savage BA110 .338LM. My first .338. For an entry level rifle I shoot a mile consistently with it. However, I am now having Mark Gordon from SAC build me a custom .338LM.

Roughly around 5K. Should be here around August.

Components:
Fat Bastard Break
Bartlein 30" Heavy Varmint Barrel / 1-9:35 twist
Alpha II Action (Defiance Machine made to SAC specs)
Murphy Precision pic rail with a 45 MOA cant
Manners T4-A Stock
Harris Bipod with lock
Black Ops Bottom Metal
Jewel Trigger set at 1.75 lbs.
Camo paint by Custom Gun Coatings
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

Yep, my trigger finger is getting impatient...is it ready yet?
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Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LCDR JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you bought all the components yourself, you could easily build one for $4k, gunsmithing included, even with a Surgeon XL action.

You might want to consider 300 Norma. It goes the distance of a 338 Lapua but isn't as expensive to shoot. Of course, if you need the 338 Lapua's energy downrange that's a different story. </div></div>

The Surgeon action is my second choice only because of cost. Otherwise it would have been my first choice. I had a Surgeon in my hands at one of my last Shot Shows, and it is very impressive. That's in no way saying the Stiller is not well suited for the job. The integral rail is a great, but I couldn't justify the added expense for it.
 
Re: Ok, I am looking into a custom 338 Lapua build...

Trigger at 1.75 lbs! What happen to the "not under 2 lbs"??
Soon you will think of what I have on my Anschutz... .6 oz.
Just don't sneeze too loud, it may go "bang".
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Good shooting.
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