Any real differences on an AR other than price?
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Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
Timney is a single stage that pulls like a 1911.
Geissele is two stage that pulls like butter.
Both nice but very different pulls.
Timney is a single stage that pulls like a 1911.
Geissele is two stage that pulls like butter.
Both nice but very different pulls.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
I did a lot of research on the subject and ended up going with a Geissele SSA trigger group. I'm very happy I did.
I did a lot of research on the subject and ended up going with a Geissele SSA trigger group. I'm very happy I did.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One's a sport trigger, one's a combat trigger even though it originated from the competition circuit.
Go with the Geissele unless you just don't like two stage triggers. </div></div>
Which is the sport and which is the combat?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One's a sport trigger, one's a combat trigger even though it originated from the competition circuit.
Go with the Geissele unless you just don't like two stage triggers. </div></div>
Which is the sport and which is the combat?
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
The Geissele is combat proven. I have both but I like two stage triggers and trust the Geissele more though I not had any issues with the Timney.
The Geissele is combat proven. I have both but I like two stage triggers and trust the Geissele more though I not had any issues with the Timney.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
Both Timney's that I had were great when new but both developed creep after time. I am a Geissele man now.
Both Timney's that I had were great when new but both developed creep after time. I am a Geissele man now.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
I have got 3 Timney's and I really like them. I an not really a fan of the 2 stage trigger. I mean the Geisseles are the best 2 stage ar trigger and the Timney's are the best single stage triggers. My next AR I build will have a Timney but that is because I like the single stage.
I have got 3 Timney's and I really like them. I an not really a fan of the 2 stage trigger. I mean the Geisseles are the best 2 stage ar trigger and the Timney's are the best single stage triggers. My next AR I build will have a Timney but that is because I like the single stage.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
FIrst off it appears that most who have given advice in this thread are very unfamiliar with the two triggers in question.
There are several different versions of the Geissele available. Both single and two stage as well as those with set pulls and adjustable pulls.
There are 5 different versions of the Timney, 10 if you count skeletonized trigger shoes.
Triggers are very subjective. It's hard to tell you one is better than another simply because two shooters of very similar abilities and skillset may want different feels from their trigger pulls.
To really answer the question is damn near impossible.
FIrst off it appears that most who have given advice in this thread are very unfamiliar with the two triggers in question.
There are several different versions of the Geissele available. Both single and two stage as well as those with set pulls and adjustable pulls.
There are 5 different versions of the Timney, 10 if you count skeletonized trigger shoes.
Triggers are very subjective. It's hard to tell you one is better than another simply because two shooters of very similar abilities and skillset may want different feels from their trigger pulls.
To really answer the question is damn near impossible.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
If you've ever been a bench shooter you'll go with the timney. It unnerves me to move a trigger and it not fire. Two stage triggers remind me of creep.
If you've ever been a bench shooter you'll go with the timney. It unnerves me to move a trigger and it not fire. Two stage triggers remind me of creep.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FIrst off it appears that most who have given advice in this thread are very unfamiliar with the two triggers in question.
There are several different versions of the Geissele available. Both single and two stage as well as those with set pulls and adjustable pulls.
There are 5 different versions of the Timney, 10 if you count skeletonized trigger shoes.
Triggers are very subjective. It's hard to tell you one is better than another simply because two shooters of very similar abilities and skillset may want different feels from their trigger pulls.
To really answer the question is damn near impossible. </div></div>
+1. They're both excellent companies that build some awesome triggers, so in the end it does come down to personal preferences/needs. If there's any way you can try them all out before deciding, I'd say that's the thing to do, as the one that works best for me is in no way guaranteed to be the one that works best for you.
Yours,
David
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FIrst off it appears that most who have given advice in this thread are very unfamiliar with the two triggers in question.
There are several different versions of the Geissele available. Both single and two stage as well as those with set pulls and adjustable pulls.
There are 5 different versions of the Timney, 10 if you count skeletonized trigger shoes.
Triggers are very subjective. It's hard to tell you one is better than another simply because two shooters of very similar abilities and skillset may want different feels from their trigger pulls.
To really answer the question is damn near impossible. </div></div>
+1. They're both excellent companies that build some awesome triggers, so in the end it does come down to personal preferences/needs. If there's any way you can try them all out before deciding, I'd say that's the thing to do, as the one that works best for me is in no way guaranteed to be the one that works best for you.
Yours,
David
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
I have both.
The Timney is a more complicated beast in some regards, especially if there's a problem but, they're a good company.
The pull on the Timney is crisp and overall, I like it...Very durable.
The Giselle on the other hand, is my favorite, in particular, the SSA-E.
I have thousands of rounds through 1 Giselle and I love the 2 stage trigger, it's definitely my preferred trigger.
I'd say, they're both of equal quality...The Giselle people IMO are extremely easy to deal with and stand by their product 100%, I actually purchased the wrong trigger by accident and they fixed it instantly.
Timney I haven't had a reason to call but, I imagine they're just as easy to deal with as the Giselle folks.
It's really a question of preference and what you're into tbh.
I have both.
The Timney is a more complicated beast in some regards, especially if there's a problem but, they're a good company.
The pull on the Timney is crisp and overall, I like it...Very durable.
The Giselle on the other hand, is my favorite, in particular, the SSA-E.
I have thousands of rounds through 1 Giselle and I love the 2 stage trigger, it's definitely my preferred trigger.
I'd say, they're both of equal quality...The Giselle people IMO are extremely easy to deal with and stand by their product 100%, I actually purchased the wrong trigger by accident and they fixed it instantly.
Timney I haven't had a reason to call but, I imagine they're just as easy to deal with as the Giselle folks.
It's really a question of preference and what you're into tbh.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
It makes a strong argument to have two guns, one with each trigger.
It makes a strong argument to have two guns, one with each trigger.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FIrst off it appears that most who have given advice in this thread are very unfamiliar with the two triggers in question.
There are several different versions of the Geissele available. Both single and two stage as well as those with set pulls and adjustable pulls.
There are 5 different versions of the Timney, 10 if you count skeletonized trigger shoes.
Triggers are very subjective. It's hard to tell you one is better than another simply because two shooters of very similar abilities and skillset may want different feels from their trigger pulls.
To really answer the question is damn near impossible. </div></div>
When you correct someone, make sure you have your facts correct.
1. Here are Bill Geissele's own words on his "single stage" triggers
<span style="font-style: italic">The Super Dynamic is an entirely new Geissele trigger system. The key feature is the gently curved (almost flat) trigger bow that has been moved 1/8" forward from the standard M4 position.
There will be 3 versions:
Super Dynamic Combat (SD-C): This is a 2 stage trigger oriented to combat and tactical shooting. It has a pull weight of (4.5-5lb) and carrot like 2nd stage break.
Super Dynamic Enhanced (SD-E): Very similar to the SD-C but the break is super crisp and a touch over 1 lb. (total pull weight 3.5lb)
Super Dynamic 3 Gun (SD3G): This is a hybrid trigger with a linear pull before discharge. Very similar to the new S3G (thanks Steve and NST)
The unique bow on the SD triggers enhances trigger control by sensitizing the trigger finger (round finger on flat trigger rather than round on round). It makes a trigger feel lighter than it really is.</span>
Another good resource is the Geissele Trigger Summary page - funny I don't see any true single stages listed - only two hybrids
http://geissele.com/pdfs/TriggerSummarySheet.pdf
I've got one Timney, one Hogan (in my GAP) but I've got 12 Geissele's of different models. The Hogan is going away soon and the Timney doesn't get used. I give you the fact the Geissele does make competition triggers but most are designed around combat or precision rifles.
How many military units use Timney triggers in their AR platforms and how many are using the Geissele? I'll stand by statements.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FIrst off it appears that most who have given advice in this thread are very unfamiliar with the two triggers in question.
There are several different versions of the Geissele available. Both single and two stage as well as those with set pulls and adjustable pulls.
There are 5 different versions of the Timney, 10 if you count skeletonized trigger shoes.
Triggers are very subjective. It's hard to tell you one is better than another simply because two shooters of very similar abilities and skillset may want different feels from their trigger pulls.
To really answer the question is damn near impossible. </div></div>
When you correct someone, make sure you have your facts correct.
1. Here are Bill Geissele's own words on his "single stage" triggers
<span style="font-style: italic">The Super Dynamic is an entirely new Geissele trigger system. The key feature is the gently curved (almost flat) trigger bow that has been moved 1/8" forward from the standard M4 position.
There will be 3 versions:
Super Dynamic Combat (SD-C): This is a 2 stage trigger oriented to combat and tactical shooting. It has a pull weight of (4.5-5lb) and carrot like 2nd stage break.
Super Dynamic Enhanced (SD-E): Very similar to the SD-C but the break is super crisp and a touch over 1 lb. (total pull weight 3.5lb)
Super Dynamic 3 Gun (SD3G): This is a hybrid trigger with a linear pull before discharge. Very similar to the new S3G (thanks Steve and NST)
The unique bow on the SD triggers enhances trigger control by sensitizing the trigger finger (round finger on flat trigger rather than round on round). It makes a trigger feel lighter than it really is.</span>
Another good resource is the Geissele Trigger Summary page - funny I don't see any true single stages listed - only two hybrids
http://geissele.com/pdfs/TriggerSummarySheet.pdf
I've got one Timney, one Hogan (in my GAP) but I've got 12 Geissele's of different models. The Hogan is going away soon and the Timney doesn't get used. I give you the fact the Geissele does make competition triggers but most are designed around combat or precision rifles.
How many military units use Timney triggers in their AR platforms and how many are using the Geissele? I'll stand by statements.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
I cant speak for Timney, but the Giessele DMR trigger is great on my MK-12. From now on I will use their triggers.
I cant speak for Timney, but the Giessele DMR trigger is great on my MK-12. From now on I will use their triggers.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
I've used both the Timney and the Geissele, and it's Geissele by a country mile.
I have a buddy who swore by Timney until one day, I was able to talk him into trying a Geissele SD-E.
Needless to say, the Timney was sold to someone else and he kept the Geissele. Once you try a Geissele, you'll never want anything else.
I've used both the Timney and the Geissele, and it's Geissele by a country mile.
I have a buddy who swore by Timney until one day, I was able to talk him into trying a Geissele SD-E.
Needless to say, the Timney was sold to someone else and he kept the Geissele. Once you try a Geissele, you'll never want anything else.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
For a semi like the SSA line of triggers. Only time I like a single stage in an AR is for a blaster carbine or a light single stage (no lighter than 3lb) in a varmint rifle. I've had timney and geisselle and don't see any quality difference between them.
For a semi like the SSA line of triggers. Only time I like a single stage in an AR is for a blaster carbine or a light single stage (no lighter than 3lb) in a varmint rifle. I've had timney and geisselle and don't see any quality difference between them.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
I really like the Geissele SD-C i have in my AR. I love the flat trigger and the 2 stage i know exactly when the trigger will break and exactly where the reset is every time.
It took some getting used to from a standard "mil spec" trigger but once i had it figured out i will never use another trigger.
I would love to be able to get a Geissele for my bolt gun build, or a 2 stage in general. I have a very hard time shooting a bolt gun due to the trigger feel.
I like being able to take up the slack then know it will break with a little more pressure.
I have a MVP with their lightning trigger (like the savage accu trigger) that is very nice as it seems to give me the feedback i like. (take up before trigger breaks)
I really like the Geissele SD-C i have in my AR. I love the flat trigger and the 2 stage i know exactly when the trigger will break and exactly where the reset is every time.
It took some getting used to from a standard "mil spec" trigger but once i had it figured out i will never use another trigger.
I would love to be able to get a Geissele for my bolt gun build, or a 2 stage in general. I have a very hard time shooting a bolt gun due to the trigger feel.
I like being able to take up the slack then know it will break with a little more pressure.
I have a MVP with their lightning trigger (like the savage accu trigger) that is very nice as it seems to give me the feedback i like. (take up before trigger breaks)
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
I have a Timney on my Bolt Gun that I love. Does the timney AR Trigger have the same feel as the Bolt Gun trigger? If so, that would be my choice.
I have a Timney on my Bolt Gun that I love. Does the timney AR Trigger have the same feel as the Bolt Gun trigger? If so, that would be my choice.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
I roll with gieselle 2 stage hi speed national match , and absolutely love it
I roll with gieselle 2 stage hi speed national match , and absolutely love it
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
I have a Geissele SSA. I hate it! The break is great, but the trigger has creep after reset. I will likely replace it with a DMR or an AR Gold. I have no experience with Timney.
I have a Geissele SSA. I hate it! The break is great, but the trigger has creep after reset. I will likely replace it with a DMR or an AR Gold. I have no experience with Timney.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
Thanks for all the info guys, I'm actually pretty happy with my stock trigger so I have time to figure this thing out.
Thanks for all the info guys, I'm actually pretty happy with my stock trigger so I have time to figure this thing out.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
Has anyone tried both the SSA and the Super Dynamic Combat triggers by Geissele? If so, which one was preferred? I haven't tried one of the straight triggers on an AR. Does it change the feel that much - like the difference between a 1911 and Hi Power trigger (I know there are other differences between how the triggers work in these two pistols, just trying to find something analogous)? Thanks for the help!
Has anyone tried both the SSA and the Super Dynamic Combat triggers by Geissele? If so, which one was preferred? I haven't tried one of the straight triggers on an AR. Does it change the feel that much - like the difference between a 1911 and Hi Power trigger (I know there are other differences between how the triggers work in these two pistols, just trying to find something analogous)? Thanks for the help!
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
Geissele
I used to shoot consistent 240's with the GARBAGE triggers of the A2's. Man, if I had access to a Geissele trigger back then it would have been EPIC.
Geissele
I used to shoot consistent 240's with the GARBAGE triggers of the A2's. Man, if I had access to a Geissele trigger back then it would have been EPIC.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
Geissele on my AR and an AR gold on my REPR. Love them both! If I had do depend on one for my life it would be the Geissele though.
Geissele on my AR and an AR gold on my REPR. Love them both! If I had do depend on one for my life it would be the Geissele though.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 33shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a Geissele SSA. I hate it! The break is great, but the trigger has creep after reset. I will likely replace it with a DMR or an AR Gold. I have no experience with Timney. </div></div>
Message me when you go to sell it I might be interested.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 33shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a Geissele SSA. I hate it! The break is great, but the trigger has creep after reset. I will likely replace it with a DMR or an AR Gold. I have no experience with Timney. </div></div>
Message me when you go to sell it I might be interested.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To really answer the question is damn near impossible. </div></div>
I have a few different after-market triggers in my AR-15s. When I think about them, to give you a useful comment based on experience, I conclude that my triggers are good enough that I don't think about them at all. I can only say they are all single-stage triggers, including at least one Timney. It works and I'm not left wondering about any aspect of its operation. If you're thinking about your trigger pull while your shooting, then something's wrong. If you like two-stage triggers, the Geissele is a very nice one.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To really answer the question is damn near impossible. </div></div>
I have a few different after-market triggers in my AR-15s. When I think about them, to give you a useful comment based on experience, I conclude that my triggers are good enough that I don't think about them at all. I can only say they are all single-stage triggers, including at least one Timney. It works and I'm not left wondering about any aspect of its operation. If you're thinking about your trigger pull while your shooting, then something's wrong. If you like two-stage triggers, the Geissele is a very nice one.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
SSA-E have two and love them both
But this is like anything else that is related to FEEL
Buy it ,use it , then deside
Both are well made and good companies
I just feel that one has Hit the touch button a little more to the mass,s than the other
John
SSA-E have two and love them both
But this is like anything else that is related to FEEL
Buy it ,use it , then deside
Both are well made and good companies
I just feel that one has Hit the touch button a little more to the mass,s than the other
John
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gehrm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone tried both the SSA and the Super Dynamic Combat triggers by Geissele? If so, which one was preferred? I haven't tried one of the straight triggers on an AR. Does it change the feel that much - like the difference between a 1911 and Hi Power trigger (I know there are other differences between how the triggers work in these two pistols, just trying to find something analogous)? Thanks for the help! </div></div>
Having used both a great deal in the past, it's my opinion the SD-C is the superior design, and overall better feeling trigger pull.
The SD design sensitizes the trigger's pull to the naked touch. Essentially it works to lighten the pull by perception vs. reality. SSA feels like 4.5lbs......SD-C feels more like 3.5-4lbs.
The SD-C is truly an awesome trigger imho.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gehrm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone tried both the SSA and the Super Dynamic Combat triggers by Geissele? If so, which one was preferred? I haven't tried one of the straight triggers on an AR. Does it change the feel that much - like the difference between a 1911 and Hi Power trigger (I know there are other differences between how the triggers work in these two pistols, just trying to find something analogous)? Thanks for the help! </div></div>
Having used both a great deal in the past, it's my opinion the SD-C is the superior design, and overall better feeling trigger pull.
The SD design sensitizes the trigger's pull to the naked touch. Essentially it works to lighten the pull by perception vs. reality. SSA feels like 4.5lbs......SD-C feels more like 3.5-4lbs.
The SD-C is truly an awesome trigger imho.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
Once you try a Geissele I doubt you'll want to use anything else. Not cheap but they are top notch quality and reliable. I run a SSA two stage and a S3G single stage.
Once you try a Geissele I doubt you'll want to use anything else. Not cheap but they are top notch quality and reliable. I run a SSA two stage and a S3G single stage.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
I've put some rounds through an OBR with a Geissele Hi-Speed NM trigger. That thing is scary light but well defined and crisp.
I've put some rounds through an OBR with a Geissele Hi-Speed NM trigger. That thing is scary light but well defined and crisp.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rick R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for all the info guys, I'm actually pretty happy with my stock trigger so I have time to figure this thing out. </div></div>
I hate a stock AR trigger with a passion. I have two Geissele High speed match triggers and they are the heat. I wouldn't want to shoot them anymore if I had to put the stock junk back in.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rick R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for all the info guys, I'm actually pretty happy with my stock trigger so I have time to figure this thing out. </div></div>
I hate a stock AR trigger with a passion. I have two Geissele High speed match triggers and they are the heat. I wouldn't want to shoot them anymore if I had to put the stock junk back in.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
I have two SD3Gs, two high speed service rifle triggers, a high speed match trigger and now an SSA-E on its way to me now.
I can recommend Geissele whole heartedly.
Haven't tried timney, though.
I have two SD3Gs, two high speed service rifle triggers, a high speed match trigger and now an SSA-E on its way to me now.
I can recommend Geissele whole heartedly.
Haven't tried timney, though.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
I have two Timney 4 lb triggers. One is in my S&W Sport AR and the other one is in my LR 308. I love them both and I'm also a 1911 fan and have 4 lb triggers in all of my 1911's. I've pulled on a Wilson TTU trigger and it's as good and may be just a bit better than the Timney. But I would have to shoot them next to each other to tell is one is better than the other. My next AR will get the Wilson just for comparisons sake.
I have two Timney 4 lb triggers. One is in my S&W Sport AR and the other one is in my LR 308. I love them both and I'm also a 1911 fan and have 4 lb triggers in all of my 1911's. I've pulled on a Wilson TTU trigger and it's as good and may be just a bit better than the Timney. But I would have to shoot them next to each other to tell is one is better than the other. My next AR will get the Wilson just for comparisons sake.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
Geissele's are EDM-cut, which contributes greatly to their durability and consistency over the years of shooting them.
Every other trigger seems to have deterioration issues that show up as doubles or failure to reset, or failure to catch on the disconnector.
Some even arrest the bolt carrier group until you let go of the trigger, and I have seen that personally on at least 2 RRA 2-stage triggers.
For single-stage, I like JP's, and I follow the directions on setting them up, which can be a pain when tuning the disconnector and safety.
Geissele's are EDM-cut, which contributes greatly to their durability and consistency over the years of shooting them.
Every other trigger seems to have deterioration issues that show up as doubles or failure to reset, or failure to catch on the disconnector.
Some even arrest the bolt carrier group until you let go of the trigger, and I have seen that personally on at least 2 RRA 2-stage triggers.
For single-stage, I like JP's, and I follow the directions on setting them up, which can be a pain when tuning the disconnector and safety.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
The SD3G is freakin' awesome. My Timney's never failed to function but I sold them. I will give Timney an A+ for easy installation.
The SD3G is freakin' awesome. My Timney's never failed to function but I sold them. I will give Timney an A+ for easy installation.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
I have a 3 lb. Timney in a 20" FFed heavy barreled AR that is always shot from a bag rest.
I have 2 Geissele SSA triggers in my other ARs (pinned 14.7" light barrel and 18" DD S2W barrel) which I would consider combat weapons.
I love them both for their intended purposes. The SSAs would do okay in a precision rifle application but the Timney is too light with too short travel to be considered for combat application.
Joe
I have a 3 lb. Timney in a 20" FFed heavy barreled AR that is always shot from a bag rest.
I have 2 Geissele SSA triggers in my other ARs (pinned 14.7" light barrel and 18" DD S2W barrel) which I would consider combat weapons.
I love them both for their intended purposes. The SSAs would do okay in a precision rifle application but the Timney is too light with too short travel to be considered for combat application.
Joe
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
Geissele makes super crisp trigger when it comes to the AR platform. Running the Geissele SSA made my old LMT 2-stage feel like a joke. I always thought that I would prefer a single stage until I tested the Geissele SSA... it changed everything for me personally. I have heard good things about Timney but haven't had the desire to gamble against something that I have 100% confidence in.
Geissele makes super crisp trigger when it comes to the AR platform. Running the Geissele SSA made my old LMT 2-stage feel like a joke. I always thought that I would prefer a single stage until I tested the Geissele SSA... it changed everything for me personally. I have heard good things about Timney but haven't had the desire to gamble against something that I have 100% confidence in.
Re: Geissele vs. Timney triggers
Have owned a bunch of Timney"s. Super easy installation in an AR. The trigger is crisp and reminds me of the Timney's in my bolt guns. Never had a problem with any of them. Never tried the Geissele.
Have owned a bunch of Timney"s. Super easy installation in an AR. The trigger is crisp and reminds me of the Timney's in my bolt guns. Never had a problem with any of them. Never tried the Geissele.
Don't have to look very far. http://geissele.com/superdynamiccombat.aspx I ordered one online last Sunday night and received it Tuesday along with a free hat and some other goodies. The trigger installed easily and feels great. Can't wait to get to the range this weekend.
The Timeny is single stage and feels good, but I've had some reliability issues with them. I've never had any reliability issues with any of my Geissele triggers. I've run SSA, SD3G and Hi-Speed Giesseles on my rifles and all three are running strong, one with mid five figure round count on it.
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Geissele SSA-E here in my LR-308. Love it! First stage is smooth as silk, 2nd breaks like nobody's business. I've been just about ready to take a shot and for one reason or another my sight picture changes and it's nothing to back off & set back up. This is my 1st 2-stage trigger and I sorely wish Geissele made a 2-stage for my Remington 700 bolt gun. The fact that the SSA-E has "NO" adjustments is a plus for me as I don't have to worry about creating an unsafe condition or having it change.
Don't know about the Timney but I just purchased my second Geissele trigger. The high speed national match trigger for the service rifle. Been using the first one for our club matches for a few years now and it's the best trigger I have used. It's adjustable first and second stage. I have it adjusted to 3.5lb. first stage and a 1.5 second stage. For matches we need to have at least 4.5 lbs. total weight. It is smooth and crisp. It comes with tools and Geissele himself has videos online to show you step by step installation. Of course it also comes with instructions. You can't go wrong with Geissele triggers. Unless you just want a single stage trigger.
