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Barrel break in proceedure: AIAX 260

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The new AX is here (Yahooooo) and before I start working up a load for the 260 Bartlein barrel, I want to ask for opinions on the proper break-in procedure that is recommended these days.

Also, should I expect any change in the accuracy from the first 100 or so rounds through the life of the barrel?

Thanks
 
Barrel break-in is a myth. Just shoot it. Once the barrel gets some copper in it it will settle in until you go in there and strip the copper out. In which case you have to start over again. So IMO don't strip the copper out with heavy solvents and copper dissolvers. I have never once stripped the copper out of the barrel on my AIAW after thousands of rounds. It still shoots under 0.3MOA with match ammo which is what it did the first day I got it.
 
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Barrel break-in is a myth. Just shoot it. Once the barrel gets some copper in it it will settle in until you go in there and strip the copper out. In which case you have to start over again. So IMO don't strip the copper out with heavy solvents and copper dissolvers. I have never once stripped the copper out of the barrel on my AIAW after thousands of rounds. It still shoots under 0.3MOA with match ammo which is what it did the first day I got it.

I like the sound of that! I had heard that before but it's good to hear it from first hand experience.
 
There is very little you can do to that rifle to hurt it. I just shoot it and it always works.
 
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I would just shoot it if I was you...I've heard that some of the top barrel makers believe that as well. The makers put in place a break in procedure just because some people just can't get over the fact that it is not needed.
 
From Kreiger's website;
"With any premium barrel that has been finish lapped -- such as your Krieger Barrel --, the lay or direction of the finish is in the direction of the bullet travel, so fouling is minimal compared to a barrel with internal tooling marks. This is true of any properly finish-lapped barrel regardless of how it is rifled. If it is not finish-lapped, there will be reamer marks left in the bore that are directly across the direction of the bullet travel. This occurs even in a button-rifled barrel as the button cannot completely iron out these reamer marks.

Because the lay of the finish is in the direction of the bullet travel, very little is done to the bore during break-in, but the throat is another story. When your barrel is chambered, by necessity there are reamer marks left in the throat that are across the lands, i.e. across the direction of the bullet travel. In a new barrel they are very distinct; much like the teeth on a very fine file. When the bullet is forced into the throat, copper dust is removed from the jacket material and released into the gas which at this temperature and pressure is actually a plasma. The copper dust is vaporized in this plasma and is carried down the barrel. As the gas expands and cools, the copper comes out of suspension and is deposited in the bore. This makes it appear as if the source of the fouling is the bore when it is actually for the most part the new throat. If this copper is allowed to stay in the bore, and subsequent bullets and deposits are fired over it, copper which adheres well to itself, will build up quickly and may be difficult to remove later. So when we break in a barrel, our goal is to get the throat “polished” without allowing copper to build up in the bore. This is the reasoning for the "fire-one-shot-and-clean" procedure.

Every barrel will vary slightly in how many rounds they take to break in For example a chrome moly barrel may take longer to break in than stainless steel because it is more abrasion resistant even though it is a similar hardness. Also chrome moly has a little more of an affinity for copper than stainless steel so it will usually show a little more "color" if you are using a chemical cleaner. Rim Fire barrels can take an extremely long time to break in, sometimes requiring several hundred rounds or more. But cleaning can be lengthened to every 25-50 rounds. The break-in procedure and the cleaning procedure are really the same except for the frequency. Remember the goal is to get or keep the barrel clean while breaking in the throat with bullets being fired over it.

Finally, the best way to tell if the barrel is broken in is to observe the patches; i.e. when the fouling is reduced. This is better than some set number of cycles of "shoot and clean" as many owners report practically no fouling after the first few shots, and more break-in would be pointless. Conversely, if more is required, a set number would not address that either. Besides, cleaning is not a completely benign procedure so it should be done carefully and no more than necessary."

When my Kreiger .223 barrels shows up, I'm going to follow this procedure.

Joe
 
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I broke my .308 and 6.5 Creedmoor barrels in by shooting them without cleaning until accuracy started to drop off, roughly 3-500rds later.
 
^^ahhh that video again. good times^^

Have a hair under 1200 rnds on my 260 and ran a snake through it twice at 750 rnds for shits and giggles. Still shoots under half MOA, and has been shooting better and better since new (or maybe I am getting a little better ha)

Dont get caught up in the "break in" BS. Instead make sure everything else on your rifle is clean/well maintained/oiled up.

Regards,
DT
 
I have always broken in barrels for all of my guns when purchased new. One question though, if you are breaking in a barrel is it ok to just use a bore snake or do a proper cleaning? thanks
 
I followed Bartleins instructions for my AI with Bartlein barrel. I figured myth or not, what could it hurt. After that I clean very rarely.
 
I broke my .308 and 6.5 Creedmoor barrels in by shooting them without cleaning until accuracy started to drop off, roughly 3-500rds later.

+1 as did I. Did it with my Brux and my Rock barrel. Both barrels can shoot 1/4 MOA.