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End Military Honors for Vets

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Fudge this mutherfudging fudger. This fudger needs a fudging gas whoopin and a mutherfudging big gas boot up his gas. If I wasn't so fudging busy I would make a motehrfudging special trip just to beat the fudgin hit out of his gas with a pick axe handle
FUDGE THIS MOTHERFUDGER!

McClellan: One last call to service ? end military funeral honors : News

"...But what about the guy who spends a couple of years in the military and then gets on with his life? Bear in mind that most veterans did nothing heroic. They served, and that’s laudable, but it hardly seems necessary to provide them all with military honors after they have died. In fact, it seems generous enough to provide veterans and their spouses with free space and headstones at a national cemetery..."


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Why is it, so many Viet Nam Vets are fudged up like this hithead? what the fudge?

Now let me get real: I give a flyin fuck what you did in service. The fact you signed the motherfucking paper saying you are willing to give your fucking life to our counttry is enough. Who cares if you were the office bitch of some female NCO who ran the shop like mommy? You fuckin A served and you earned it because you were willing to do what needed to be done if it needed doing and die for it. If you were an infantry bubba and all you did for three or four years was cut fuckin grass, you earned that shit. FUCK THIS MOTHERFUCKER!
 
Truthfully, I am not really stunned. Besides a few places and areas of our country, the true heart of the nation has shifted. As if some poor grunt had an option. Most of the time we were just kids getting by and serving our country. I never really expected any thanks. When my grandfather passed as a WW II vet, we got a flag and it did mean something. It meant something then and it means something now. But, the people in the positions see service as something for the low brows. Don't care - THEY don't get my respect.

When you see a vet or know one - say thanks.
 
Poison pen journalism

Typical low life journalist , atheist scum . Notice how he said that " the preachers go on a while ". Denigrating a funeral .
This is the type of trash that is forming public opinion with their poison pen and anti Christian views .
 
I said this shit would happen back in '03 when these wars started. Its gonna be like Vietnam, a country of "DOGS AND SOLDIERS KEEP OFF THE GRASS"

The only difference between these wars and Vietnam is we had better music.
 
While I agree with you that all vets, combat or not , deserve military honors..... signing on the line does not make one a saint.

The military has become welfare for a large portion of the population. Plenty of deadbeats and shit bags who don't give a shit about serving their country.

If you ever been in a non combat arms unit, its pretty obvious.........and pathetic.
 
Kraig I've got nothing but respect for those of your time however even now I would say our two experiences were not alike. In your time it was outright hatred in my time its just forgotten sacrifice. The people in this country just don't care now. This discussion of taking away funeral honors is just another example of the people not caring, not knowing, or just not being aware of what we've all done and were prepared to do.

and your right you did have way better music!
 
Just a couple days ago I was at mprc walkin out a chowhall and saluted this feller, he replied "Garry Owen", it caught me off guard cause I hadn't heard that since hood and that's been ten years or so ago, I noted his Humvee bumper was 4-7 cav
 
I think Rudyard Kipling wrote about this about 150 years ago, something like they're the saviors of the country when the lead is flying, but a bunch of rowdy drunks when we don't need them. Happens between every war.
 
Had an older cousin who served with the Cav in the Leyte Gulf and Phillipines during WW2, a close cousin who served with the Cav 2nd/7th in Korea, and I served with B Co., 229th Avn. Bn., 11th Avn. Grp, 1st Cav. (Airmobile) in Viet Nam.

Love all of ya, guys . . .

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming . . .
 
We can't afford presidential golf outings with tiger woods either!! or the first families vacation wims. Hawaii, Vail and the Bahamas so far this year. Millions spent on golf outings and living La Vida Loco on the tax dime. Good grief the hand outs to any number of foriegn countries that spit on and burn our flag. I can't believe that we are living in the midst of a zombie apocolypse and no body is shooting the brain dead sob's that elected these ass clowns in DC.
 
I think the recorded bugle thing has been going on for a long time. My first experience with recorded Taps was at the funeral for the father of a co-worker about seven years ago. He was a Texas A&M class of '42 grad and served in the Pacific during WWII rescuing downed pilots with a PBY aircraft. A true hero in my mind. When a uniformed officer reached over and turned on this Jap Sony boombox and it started playing Taps I was shocked. I felt really embarrassed for my friend and ashamed that his father didn't have a real bugler. The rest of the ceremony was nice with a flag detail and gun salute. It was not at national cemetary but a private one the family used. My father turned 80 yesterday and is a retired Air Force Colonel. If a recorded taps is proposed when his time comes I will blow a gasket.
 
As a guy that has been on many funeral details you have to remember that a post has to conduct funeral details for a very large area, usually the size of the state that post is in sometimes that state plus some. Funeral fetails are a tasking to random units that generally have it for 30 days at a time. As far as the bugler goes not every post even has a band, and ones that do have maybe one or two buglers, so to have a live bugler every day of a detail is unrealistic. You get recorded taps or no taps at all. One thing a family can do though is request a live bugler when they request funeral honors through casualty affairs
 
Kraig- yes, you guys had awesome music

So, let's set aside the Veteran part of the issue for a second, and try to be analytical about the point this douchenozzle is trying to make( in his talent- and tact-less manner).

This Guy's argument is wrong on a fundamental level. If the following conditions had been met- 1:that he was a vet, and 2: that he was asking his fellow Vets (again, contingent on #1) to not use the Military Funerals as much (funky way to describe a one-time Honor, sorry), then mayhaps he wouldn't have guys like us jumping down his throat.

Sort of like the "Victory Garden" Approach- if he had appealed to our sense of duty to our country instead of popping out that "THIS SHOULD BE BANNED!!!" nancy horsecrap, then maybe he would have had a pot to piss in for his argument.

But his argument would have still been defeated by some cold hard facts like- there are people flying into this country every day on work Visas, and their first stop after they get out of the airport is the Social Security office to receive their living stipend... and he's apparently cool with that, but not cool with spending, what was it, 24 dollars for a bugler?

His Logic is Flawed beyond salvage.

Me, I'm not going to have any Military Honors at my funeral. Not because I'm trying to save money for the country, or what have you. But Because it would only showcase the "Monkey Suit" phase of my service to the country. I intend to continue serving after I finish my degree for a helluva lot longer than the six years I spent in the Army.

Still, I feel it should be the default for anyone who has served Honorably.
 
HighGroundMan said:
I think the recorded bugle thing has been going on for a long time. My first experience with recorded Taps was at the funeral for the father of a co-worker about seven years ago. He was a Texas A&M class of '42 grad and served in the Pacific during WWII rescuing downed pilots with a PBY aircraft. A true hero in my mind. When a uniformed officer reached over and turned on this Jap Sony boombox and it started playing Taps I was shocked. I felt really embarrassed for my friend and ashamed that his father didn't have a real bugler. The rest of the ceremony was nice with a flag detail and gun salute. It was not at national cemetary but a private one the family used. My father turned 80 yesterday and is a retired Air Force Colonel. If a recorded taps is proposed when his time comes I will blow a gasket.
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yeah, they've been doing the recorded bugler thing for a while. Back in 06, they developed this Taps playing thing that you could stuff into the Bugle so that it looked like the bugler was playing it. My buddy's had to use it a few times. It may not be a real Bugler, but it's a damn sight better than a soldier standing in back with a Boom-box.
 
I heard about that story last week and it made my blood boil. IMHO, the reporter did it to create controversy, put himself on the map and push the bar of journalistic standards a little deeper into the basement.

On a positive note... I think I have posted this organization to The 'Hide before. I heard about it on a news story and immediately broke out the checkbook.

Bugles Across America > Home

Great organization and great mission, started by a guy who could not stand the idea of Taps on a CD player. I only wish they had enough buglers to be able to support the funeral of every veteran.

As to the reporter's infantile conclusions... so what if a veteran was not in combat... they put on the uniform, placed nation before self, and gave up years of their lives to serve. That's my definition of a hero and merits our being forever-grateful.

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
I told mine, and they all agreed, it's a set of uilleann pipes for me. A 'full set'(3 closed drones, and the chanter) Irish pipes for Amazing Grace. They all said if they could, Dropkick Murphy's, Street Dogs, and Flatfoot 56 will add in at the end with their version(the kid's idea on how to do it right, after all, it ain't a celebration of life without a party and good rock and roll)
 
Went to my brother-in-law's funeral. Had an honor guard from the local American Legion post. The "bugler" had one of the bugle implants. Put the bugle up to his lips to "sound" taps, but the thing malfunctioned. As he had the thing down looking down the bell of the bugle it started playing.

Somewhat of an awkward moment.
 
Did anyone read the later story where he says he was once a marine?
 
I'm the head of the Honor Guard at our Legion Post, and we use the bogus bugle. Sounds so real, that the Sons of the Legion guy that plays it(also the caretaker at the cemetary--handy) had his old music teacher from the High School complement him after one funeral. He didn't tell him it was phony, didn't want to break the spell, he said. You just have to take into account a 10 second time delay when you push the start button. Thing can be switched over for 7 other calls--To The Colors, and Tatoo is one beautiful one--reminds me of sunset, lowering the flag. Boots and Saddles(Post Time) would really break up a ceremony big time, but it would be appropriate for horsetrack junkies.
 
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