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Swarovski SLC & EL Binos: Differences?

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I have been holding on to a gift card for a while now and have been debating getting a new pair of binos. As I understand, the EL's are somewhat the gold standard. I have an opportunity to get a pair of the higher magnification SLC for around $12-1,300

Anyone have experience with both? Are the SLC close or am I better to wait and get the EL's?

Thanks for any info guys-

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SLC = Camaro
EL = Corvette
If Good Glass Matters To You, Buy The EL's.
 
Alright, sounds clear that they're pretty different then . Would you say the it is more noticeable on the higher mag models? Or is there a magnification that's more of a gem than others? Just curious where the fluoride glass really stands out. I don't mind paying the extra if they are that much better.

The SLC are on clearance, I may look for a better deal elsewhere for a model of the EL's.



Thanks again,


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I have the EL's and a buddy has the SLC's and to be honest I don't see any difference in glass quality, the only difference I saw (felt) was the ergonomics of the EL design is superior and the EL's are noticeably lighter. Both are 10x42 models and both are about 5 years old, pre-HD glass.

I wouldn't trade the EL's for the SLC's the pro's I mentioned above are worth every penny, IMO.
 
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The ones I was looking at have Swarodur, Swarotop and Swarobright coatings... I didn't even think about what year production they are... Maybe they are Pre high dispersion as well?

I'm a little confused... I double checked and the 15x 56mm SLC are $1,499 and the EL's are only a few hundred less than the EL's with attached rangefinder?? $2,400-2,700 vs 2,900 for the 10x EL rangefinder. Something must be wrong


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A side-by-side comparison of SLC's and El's will tell you what you need to know. When it comes to glass some folks don't see a difference or don't care. To me it is plain as day. Since it is your money, only you can decide how important the returns are. I would personally buy 10X32 EL HD's. I would never consider 15X binoculars unless you intend to use them with a tripod. I find even 10X42 binoculars heavy and bulky for long days in the field, but again your mileage may vary.
 
How long are you going to be carrying them on your back and how long are you going to be glassing at a time are the questions I would consider. I have 10 X 42's that I use on a stand and 10 X 32's that I'd rather carry. If they are going to be on the truck seat beside me most of the time, I'd like to have the 15 X 56... Buy once, cry once.
 
The EL's is one of only two times I've looked through an optic and gone "WOW!".
(The other time was a Kahles K312).

I'd go for the EL's if you can afford it.
 
I traded my 10x42 EL's for the new 10x50 EL's when they came out but if I'm honest I can't see any difference in the type of use that I use them for .
The new 10x42 HD SLC's are again IMHO optically as good but I agree with BWB that the feel of the EL's compared to the SLC's is better.
For me the difference between the 10x42's & 10x50's was minimum but when I compared the 10x32 to the 10x42's it was massive , like someone switching the lights on . ( too much power for 32mm no matter how good the optics )
I don't care about the weight just wanting the best pair of bins and that to me was the 42 or 50mm EL's .
 
BobD,

It always seems to be a question of 'over-gunning' yourself. I've looked through many pairs of 8X and 10X El's and a number of SLC's in the field. Clearly to me the EL's were better optically. I didn't notice so much of a difference with ergonomics. But, ergonomics is very important. I've also had brush fits on the side of a hill because I could see deer in early light with my naked eyes, but not in the undersized bino's I brought along to see the deer more clearly. The weight factor isn't so much as the useful/uselessness of an item you've carried for a full day and can or can't use when the time comes.

That said the biggest difference you're gonna find is at dusk and dawn. Dawn being the most important in hunting use, because you can see where the deer are. At dusk you can only see what you missed a chance on. The clarity of a lower power is very important. I have found that taking 12X and 15X bino's into the field is difficult. Because you need a rest of some sort to look through them and see what you want. You are also limited by the field of view. Higher power also limits light transmission through the optics. To put it in western deer hunting terms, where you'll need to reach out a half mile quite often, at dawn when you start getting to be about where you want looking over herds moving to bed down, is when you'll use them. So best light transmission that you can afford is critical. You may be on the move, so too high of power is out. It should be anyway in the field. Unless you need to see some finer detail for some reason. In rifle scopes I always say, you need to shoot center-mass, not the second button down. But, if you are looking for the trophy that gets away year after year and need to see antlers clearly, then you might want to go to a higher power.

When it comes to clarity in difficult light situations, the El's are better than the SLC's. But, you have to decide how difficult the situation is to warrant spending that much money on bino's. If you are an afternoon birder, or tend to glass through the lighter hours of the day, you won't see what makes the difference. And, won't need the difference the EL's would give you over the SLC's.
 
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If you can handle the price get the EL.
If for no other reason the weight! I had the
SLC while SUPER clear they are heavy! Until
You carry them all day would you understand!
If you stand hunting get the SLC your eyes
Can't tell the difference! But the colors are super
Image is awesome! Full moon you can spot deer
In fields no problem, the suck up alot of light!
 
I have a 8x50 SLC and a 8x42 EL Range. While not a real fair comparisons, for lowlight the SLC's are my go to optics... literally not so poor, poor mans night vision. Only down side to them is the weight. To be honest, I have never really put them side by side to see which was better out in the sun, but in near dark obviously the larger objective of the SLC will outperform. I use the SLC's in the darkened woods of Michigan from a stand and the EL's out in the open fields of Montana. However If you find yourself out at night in Montana and have a pair of 8x50 SLC's look up into the heavens for a treat!
 
Thanks for all the input guys, I really appreciate it.
To make this choice even harder I've come across the SLC HD version. Its priced right between the regular SLC and EL. The HD also has fluoride glass. Looks like they stay under 2,000 though.

I'm not sure I'm ready to spend more than that yet. Were any of you referring to the HD SLC model in your responses earlier?

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Thanks for all the input guys, I really appreciate it.
To make this choice even harder I've come across the SLC HD version. Its priced right between the regular SLC and EL. The HD also has fluoride glass. Looks like they stay under 2,000 though.

I'm not sure I'm ready to spend more than that yet. Were any of you referring to the HD SLC model in your responses earlier?

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I own and use the 10x42 SLC's. I have looked through the newer EL's and there is a difference to me. The EL's appear brighter and are definitely less weight. However, there was not enough of a difference in quality of glass to justify the increased cost. But I am probably on a tighter budget than you, with many other high dollar items on my want list.

What I can confirm is that you have a very pleasant problem. No matter which model you purchase: once you get out in the field with them you will mutter to yourself "I should have bought these years ago." They are all that good.
 
The 8, 10, and 15 power all have there purpose. I have the 10x42 EL's and love them, but have since been using the 15X56 SLC for specific situations. I used the 10X42 SLC line on several occations in the field and the only difference I've noticed between the EL's and SLC it the weight. I can tell you after carrying the EL's for a couple hours and then switching over to the SLC makes them feel like a brick about your neck! You won't be disappointed with the SLC, but if you're like me, you will alway wish you bought the EL's! Good luck to you!
 
I've had a few pair of SLC's and currently use 10x42 SLC's. love them and haven't felt the need to go to the EL's but have played with a buddy's (his are the 10x32) and the main thing I liked was the reduced weight. One of my greatest regrets was letting my brother barrow my 8x30's a few years back and telling him to just hold onto them. They were so bright and light.

My FIL has been a swaro dealer for a couple decades here in AK and he still swears by his SLC's. havin played with them all I can say there is a difference, but once you get to that level of glass the gap starts getting really narrow.

That said I expect Swaro will continue to come out with improvements and ways to market new and improved glass to us for the forseeable future. My wife's favorite bino's are her dads green rubber swaro classics he carried as a guide through the late 70's and on into the 90's before he got his SLC's.
 
The main thing is that the ELs have enhanced coatings relative to the SLCs.

This translates into better resolution (like an HD tv with a higher pixel count). The sharper resolution provides for better contrast – a birder can tell the differences between feathers easier. Colors are more true to nature in an EL and they pop out better.

The ELs all have “field flattening” lenses in them. The field flattener provides for true edge to edge distinction. For example, if you grab any pair of ELs, and put an object that goes straight up and down in the periphery of your field of view (such as a telephone or fence pole) you will see that it goes straight up and down. Only glass in the world to do this. SLCs don’t. While it’s nice that field flattening shows things they way they are (other glass bows or curves at the edges) it’s more important that the viewer’s eyes don’t constantly try and focus the periphery of your field of view, over and over and over again. Less eye strain with field flattening. ELs have more eye relief. That is, the 10x42 ELs have 20mm and the 10x42 SLCs have 16mm. ELs have open bridge design which makes them easier to grip (i.e. two hinges instead of one).

Now the SLCs beat the EL in one place, light transmission. ELs = 90%. SLCs = 91%. That’s because of the extra field flattening lenses in the Els.

I am comparing the new ELs versus the new SLCs. Over the years, there have been different versions of the ELs and SLCs with features constantly changing.

All ELs have HD glass. All new SLCs have or will have HD glass.
 
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Not to hijack but as i am about to order some binoculars as well i was wondering if there was a reason you are not throwing the leica hd-b into the mix if you are considering the EL range?
 
"I'm a little confused... I double checked and the 15x 56mm SLC are $1,499 and the EL's are only a few hundred less than the EL's with attached rangefinder?? $2,400-2,700 vs 2,900 for the 10x EL rangefinder. Something must be wrong"

Sorry, I took this question to suggest the OP might also be considering the combi binos as well since the price was similar to the EL model