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What Do You Think Of This Range Idea?

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I’m just spit ballin here. I already have a business to grow, I really don’t need another. But I get “ideas” sometimes and its fun to take them for a short test drive and see what can be done with them.

So here is the situation, and I what I am really wondering is do a lot of people feel like I do about this or am I off my rocker.

Once you get to a certain point in your shooting, and this is not very far down the road to “shooting excellence”, punching holes in paper gets flat out boring. Precision shooting not included, that’s a different ball of wax. I’m talking about pistol/carbine stuff.

I’m no “Grand Master” shooter. I’m just a guy that has worked with some really good shooters/taken some good courses and done a few USPSA shoots. But I just don’t shoot that much anymore because aside from sighting something in I can’t get myself excited to go to the range. Again, I am nothing special. I’m sure that most of you can shoot circles around me and are probably more bored. Which is probably why a lot of you are precision shooters, it’s always hard/there is always something to learn.

So here is my idea, and its not revolutionary. But I don’t know of anything like it, at least around me. I would like to be able to go shoot at a “Shooting Amusement Park” (for lack of a better term).

The range would be set up with pistol carbine “courses” of varying degrees. On the low end would be a course of fire with some pistol and some carbine but not too hard and not a ton of movement. On the other end would be a course of fire where you are shooting pistol from lets say 5-50m and carbine from 15-300m. Lots of movement, lots of shooting positions, etc. And all the targets would be steel, because there is nothing as rewarding as getting that “PING”. The courses of fire would be changed/updated on a weekly basis.

In addition to the pistol/carbine courses there would also be pistol only, carbine only, standard range stuff, maybe a “kill house” and one would hope enough land to be able to do some 1000m precision stuff.

The ranges could even be set up so certain days of the week offered certain environments.

Yearly memberships could be sold (thing golf club membership) which would get the shooter in any time as well as certain days where only members can attend.

I’m sure that with an infrastructure like the above it wouldn’t be a big deal to host USPSA type events, which would help pay the bills. Traveling schools/instructors could also be rotated through which would also pay the bills.

Aside from interest, the biggest hurdles would be insurance (which would be HUGE) and a piece of land big enough that is not too far from the metropolitan area.

So who would pay money, and not huge money to be able to shoot at a place like this? Do you think you would do something like this once a week? Twice a month? Do you think it would get you to shoot more? What sort of features/services would you like to see the range offering? Any ideas? Comments?

Thanks
 
I do this on a small scale to keep my wife entertained while practicing. As soon as I sense she is getting a little bored, I change things up. When she was fairly unfamiliar with firearms she was closely supervised which helped with her safety and the safety of those around her and even though she is a pretty good shot right now I am still closely supervising her. She is not to the point of holstering/unholstering yet as I am dreading that part for several reasons.

One problem you may encounter is shooters coming to your business without proper training attempting to participate in activities well beyond their skill level without someone there to look after them.
 
One problem you may encounter is shooters coming to your business without proper training attempting to participate in activities well beyond their skill level without someone there to look after them.

That's a good point. New shooter would need to be certified before they can play on the big boy course's. Track Day operation (car/motorcycle) are the same way.
 
We do it every day....Instead of amusement park...think country club.
peacemakernational.com

If I lived anywhere near there I would be a member.

Don't get me wrong, the pistol/carbine ranges look like they could be a lot of fun. I'm thinking of something a LOT more complex though. At least for the "advanced" level rage.
 
If I lived anywhere near there I would be a member.

Don't get me wrong, the pistol/carbine ranges look like they could be a lot of fun. I'm thinking of something a LOT more complex though. At least for the "advanced" level rage.

No doubt - The photos on the web don't do it justice. FN 3-gun national championship gets rather complex - it was a fun week...but yeah, we don't have shoot-houses, bunkers or helos...yet. ;)
The biggest concerns are maintenance, staffing and safety...all of which takes cash-money.
 
The biggest concerns are maintenance, staffing and safety...all of which takes cash-money.
I would think that the members would cover that by time donated
Doesn't make sense to pay for a membership to allow one on the grounds then to think that their shit don't stink enough where they don't have to contribute to the upkeep.
 
I would think that the members would cover that by time donated
Doesn't make sense to pay for a membership to allow one on the grounds then to think that their shit don't stink enough where they don't have to contribute to the upkeep.

We ask them to police their brass and put their trash in the bin.... but, trust me, you don't want the public, whether member or not, touching/working on thousands of dollars worth of steel, electronic targets, moving targets or clay throwers. ;) Things end up broke and/or lost real quick.

We have the RSO program for those who want to donate time and help out....everyone else is hands off.
 
We ask them to police their brass and put their trash in the bin.... but, trust me, you don't want the public, whether member or not, touching/working on thousands of dollars worth of steel, electronic targets, moving targets or clay throwers. ;) Things end up broke and/or lost real quick.

We have the RSO program for those who want to donate time and help out....everyone else is hands off.
That's understandable
Thx for the clarification.
 
No doubt - The photos on the web don't do it justice. FN 3-gun national championship gets rather complex - it was a fun week...but yeah, we don't have shoot-houses, bunkers or helos...yet. ;)
The biggest concerns are maintenance, staffing and safety...all of which takes cash-money.

Hmmmm, helo's, LOL!

Any idea if the range in VA makes money? Or is it just a labor of love? $200 yearly membership seems low to me.
 
Hmmmm, helo's, LOL!

Any idea if the range in VA makes money? Or is it just a labor of love? $200 yearly membership seems low to me.

Which range in VA would that be? They are all a labor of love....it's not easy running a big range with corporate sponsors and national level matches. Hell we don't even get to shoot much anymore - we're all working to keep things safe and running. lol
 
Peacemaker is in West Virgina....ya confused me. I have no clue about the funds....I just work there. ;) The membership used to be $500 a year, once it was lowered the membership skyrocketed and is potentially going to be capped. We are real busy on the weekends...whether it be public, members or matches.
 
Peacemaker is in West Virgina....ya confused me. I have no clue about the funds....I just work there. ;) The membership used to be $500 a year, once it was lowered the membership skyrocketed and is potentially going to be capped. We are real busy on the weekends...whether it be public, members or matches.

My mistake, IDK why I had VA stuck in my head.

Is the owner(s) there all the time? Every place I have ever worked that the owner was around I could tell if it was making money or not. The guys working for me can tell if I'm making money.....or not;-)
 
Although I don't live there anymore Virginia would be the ideal place for this. Somewhere near Norfolk/Virginia Beach. There is only one range there and you can only shoot to 300 yards. The steel rack for pistols (and pistols only, no rimfire rifles or anything else) is only 7-8 ~12x~12 plates. It gets real old real quick. If something like this existed in Virginia near the areas of Norfolk/Virginia Beach, you would have a metric shit ton of military people wanting to get in on this kind of stuff (especially if you can keep it affordable). There is also a good large amount of civilians who would be interested as there really aren't any chances to shoot to many matches near that area unless you take the drive down to Academi. I lived there for 3 years and was always looking for something a bit more fun than the typical paper punching, 300yd steel, pinging steel at 10-15 yards with pistols and the one a month none sanctioned match that was more of an intro to shooting.

Or bring this to Oklahoma where I am now, plenty of land and plenty of shooters.

"Build it and they will come" hahaha
 
I kind of agree. If this was to happen, I'd think a good target market would be an area with fairly low cost/easy access (relatively) land and co-located with a military dense area. SoCal (though land is pricey and the EPA are nuts), SE Virginia, NE Virginia, South central Texas; all of these make sense...lots of people inclined to shoot in those areas...