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i can't find anything wrong with these 2 
i can't find anything wrong with these 2
Those don't have the side charging handle?
They cost enough that I cant afford 5 of em 
But on the one I own--nothing--its perfect
But on the one I own--nothing--its perfect
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PSC-12. They have both top and side charge.
you would be correct sir
Only thing I don't like functionally about my LRP-07s & SCR-11s is more of a user error than anything else... but if you trip the bolt release without first returning the side charging handle to the forward position it will bite your finger a bit. The side charger is great but get in a habit of returning the side charge handle to the forward position before pushing the bolt release!
Regarding build/maintenance issues:
Another gripe would be the small stainless set screw used for the JP adjustable gas blocks. Once you get your gas adjustment set you're supposed to loctite the setscrew in. After you put some rounds downrange and some carbon builds up on the screw threads inside the gas block they can be a real bitch to remove or readjust if you change loads without stripping the hex-- even after heating the setscrew to soften the loctite and wicking in some Kroil. I use hex wrenches made from ground drill blanks so they're really tough and make it much more difficult to round the hex screw-- but if you're using a standard L-key (which is soft in comparison to the ground drill blank hex drivers) your chances of stripping that screw are much greater.
Another minor complaint on 2 of my JPs is that the upper to lower fit is so snug there is no easy way to push the upper to lower pins out in the field without having a tool handy. No way you're pushing them out with your fingers-- I have to use a delrin punch to get the rear takedown pin out. One of these now stays in my shooting bag at all times... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/136866/olympic-arms-ar-15-takedown-pin-punch-delrin
Other than that... love 'em. Extremely well machined & assembled, excellent functioning, and excellent accuracy. Great customer service too before and after the sale.
Regarding build/maintenance issues:
Another gripe would be the small stainless set screw used for the JP adjustable gas blocks. Once you get your gas adjustment set you're supposed to loctite the setscrew in. After you put some rounds downrange and some carbon builds up on the screw threads inside the gas block they can be a real bitch to remove or readjust if you change loads without stripping the hex-- even after heating the setscrew to soften the loctite and wicking in some Kroil. I use hex wrenches made from ground drill blanks so they're really tough and make it much more difficult to round the hex screw-- but if you're using a standard L-key (which is soft in comparison to the ground drill blank hex drivers) your chances of stripping that screw are much greater.
Another minor complaint on 2 of my JPs is that the upper to lower fit is so snug there is no easy way to push the upper to lower pins out in the field without having a tool handy. No way you're pushing them out with your fingers-- I have to use a delrin punch to get the rear takedown pin out. One of these now stays in my shooting bag at all times... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/136866/olympic-arms-ar-15-takedown-pin-punch-delrin
Other than that... love 'em. Extremely well machined & assembled, excellent functioning, and excellent accuracy. Great customer service too before and after the sale.
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Not a DAMN THING. The Number 1 reason that I bought a JP Enterprise LRP-07 was that I did tons of research as I do on everything that I buy and this was the only manufacture that had very very little complaints if any. I wanted a rifle that was not only super reliable but also very accurate and with the most quality you can put into a rifle. Well after about a year and a half of research it came down to 2 rifles, first was a GAP-10 and the other a JP LRP-07. The reason I went with JP was that their rifle was one of the lightest .308 AR's on the market. Second was the quality, I had heard many good things but it was not until I got to hold and shoot one that convinced me that this was the one. JP Rifles are something that you have to see in person to truely see just how good these rifles are, and once you take them apart it is almost unbelievable just how much time and care are put into these rifles. And if all that wasn't enough well they also have the BEST customer service out there. Is there a downside, well yes ( COST ) but in my book these rifles are worth much more than what I paid.
Only thing i can think of is I wish I bought the PSC-12 instead of the LRP-07. I like the side charger but I'm very used to standard charging handles. When I have to lock the bolt back, it's a little difficult with only a side charger as both charger and bolt stop are on the same side. Plus, what if I load an oversized case? Will the side charger have enough meat/strength to extract the jammed shell? Fortunately, I haven't had to test this out yet...
Very little if anything is wrong with a LRP.
As mentioned above, my takedown pins are also tight. In time after many removals I expect they will loosen up.
Fit is perfect. Funny because I often add a accuwedge to other ARs to tighten them up even higher end ones.
Extremely accurate and very well made.
I researched for months and decided it was going to be a GAP or JP and went for the JP mostly due to folks here who have both preferred the JP. I was aware they are both the highest of quality but that was enough to sway me.
So far very happy.
I do like the side charge handle.
As mentioned above, my takedown pins are also tight. In time after many removals I expect they will loosen up.
Fit is perfect. Funny because I often add a accuwedge to other ARs to tighten them up even higher end ones.
Extremely accurate and very well made.
I researched for months and decided it was going to be a GAP or JP and went for the JP mostly due to folks here who have both preferred the JP. I was aware they are both the highest of quality but that was enough to sway me.
So far very happy.
I do like the side charge handle.
Yes it will have more than enough strength, think about it for a moment. Look at the leverage you can get when racking from the side compared to the top T handle. As far as locking the bolt back, I will admit it took a little practice to get it down but once you figure out the best way for you than it is no big deal. I found that for me I use my right hand and go under the frame to lock it.
Their service and delivery are second to none so get ready to be pleasantly surprised when you receive it earlier than expected.
Any other difference between the two?
Just foward assist and dust cover standard on the psc 12. Those are extras on the lrp.
i can't find anything wrong with these 2
No cheek riser needed ? What size scopes?
thanks
Nothing wrong with a LRP that I've found. What I did find is :
Amazing quality and attention to detail.
Incredibly smooth action
Great trigger
Extremely accurate
During break-in off of a very sub par bench. The first group of Federal Gold Metal Match after generic 308.
Amazing quality and attention to detail.
Incredibly smooth action
Great trigger
Extremely accurate
During break-in off of a very sub par bench. The first group of Federal Gold Metal Match after generic 308.
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It pisses me off that it takes 6 weeks for them to make and deliver my JP LRP-07 in 6.5 creed........THE NERVE OF JP!!!!!
--it should be more like 10 months or so.
JP makes a HELL of a stick!
--it should be more like 10 months or so.
JP makes a HELL of a stick!
Cheek risers are only needed if you plan on shooting for groups IMO, I have a Swarovski Z6i brt scope on my JP LRP-07 and love it. I was looking for a rifle that could shoot tight groups but was intended for combat. I wanted to be able to use my scope like a red dot scope at close range but also be able to hit man size targets @ 600+ yards. But I am a little bummed, JP Enterprise did not offer a USO scope when I bought mine but they now offer a USO 1x-8x illuminated scope which I would have liked to have gotten just to get a little more range.
Anybody able to weigh their JP all rigged out with the scope and mount etc? I'm still thinking about trying to trade my GAP-10 for one.
my dealer got delivery confirmation today, I should have my LRP-07 in .260 next Tuesday. Damn, that was a looooong 12 (actually 14) weeks. I am super jacked about this rig...I have always been a bolt action rifle guy, and I'll always love those, but after reading about the challenges and differences in marksmanship skills driving a gas gun, I started to think it might be fun to try it out. As such, after reading about JP rifles for a long time, I don't think I'm going to have to change my skillset that much; they seem to drive fairly easily from what others continue to say, and from the two I have shot.
I have handled a few JP's, OP. I have a few AR's in my safe, but the JP's are just in a class all by themselves. Obviously, GAP is in that class too, but when you start comparing the GAP-10's, you notice the weight difference and how much smoother that recoil impulse is with the JP's LMOS. I wonder if GAP has ever considered using the LMOS with any of their builds?
To answer your inquiry, OP, I don't know if there is anything wrong with the LRP-07's? I'll definitely be happy to keep everyone posted, good, bad, or ugly.
mdmorrow - a friend and I were just out shooting his DPMS LR-308, 18"bbl, PRS stock, Bushnell DMR on top. I don't have weights, but the palpable difference between the weight of the DPMS vs the JP seemed enormous, and the JP had identical everything (PRS stock and a Bushy XRS on top, and 4" more barrel). I know GAP usually uses POF receivers, which are rather beefy as well. If you're interested in a lighter rifle, you're definitely on the right track.
I have handled a few JP's, OP. I have a few AR's in my safe, but the JP's are just in a class all by themselves. Obviously, GAP is in that class too, but when you start comparing the GAP-10's, you notice the weight difference and how much smoother that recoil impulse is with the JP's LMOS. I wonder if GAP has ever considered using the LMOS with any of their builds?
To answer your inquiry, OP, I don't know if there is anything wrong with the LRP-07's? I'll definitely be happy to keep everyone posted, good, bad, or ugly.
mdmorrow - a friend and I were just out shooting his DPMS LR-308, 18"bbl, PRS stock, Bushnell DMR on top. I don't have weights, but the palpable difference between the weight of the DPMS vs the JP seemed enormous, and the JP had identical everything (PRS stock and a Bushy XRS on top, and 4" more barrel). I know GAP usually uses POF receivers, which are rather beefy as well. If you're interested in a lighter rifle, you're definitely on the right track.
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Thanks for that. My GAP weighs right at 15 lbs with the scope. It's a beast with a 22" solid barrel. It probably can't be beat on accuracy though. I might throw it back up in the trade section.
My LRP-07 with a 22" medium profile 6.5CM barrel with thermal dissipator, large profile comp, 12.5" handguard, PRS stock, 34mm Cantilever Spuhr mount, S&B 5-25 x 56 DT, and S&B sunshade comes in at 14.05lbs (no mag or ammo.) The S&B itself is 1080g (2.38#) plus whatever the Spuhr & sunshade add. I didn't feel like taking the mount & optic off the rifle to weigh them.
For comparison my GAP-10 with a 24" 6.5CM barrel with titan brake, rifle length handguard, PRS stock, and no optic or mount attached comes in at 12.1 lbs.
At some point down the road I'm going to buy another JP upper or another complete rifle with an 18" light contour 6.5CM barrel and run a lighter optic like a NF 2.5-10x42.
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Nothing wrong with it. Very nicely made, finished well, highly accurate, reasonably priced. Light, compared to my LMT MWS or my friend's OBR, shoots a little tighter than my KAC EMC, it's hard to explain how nice they are. If you think its just for 3-gun, you're missing it. Mine shoots < 1" with FGMM, 2-10x scope w fairly coarse reticle. I should put a true target scope on it just to sees how tightly it shoots. The recoil is why you went to a .308 DI gun, very soft shooting rifle. Pmags or KAC mags, had problems with a DPMS(?) mag.
When you call, they aren't snotty pricks, happy to get your business and don't take forever to finish and deliver products.
The new QD sling swivel set-up is just about perfect, and if I did have a beef with them was shipping rifles w/o ambi selectors and no FA or dustcover. New rifles have all the things I would expect to see on a rifle at this level.
When you call, they aren't snotty pricks, happy to get your business and don't take forever to finish and deliver products.
The new QD sling swivel set-up is just about perfect, and if I did have a beef with them was shipping rifles w/o ambi selectors and no FA or dustcover. New rifles have all the things I would expect to see on a rifle at this level.
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My only complaint on my LRP-07 in 6.5 CM is a very tight chamber. I had a die made by John Whidden based on a fired case. Problem solved.
Regular FL sizing dies DO NOT size far enough down and some cases can get jammed going into battery. If
you plan on reloading, get a small base die.
This was an even bigger issue when I screwed on my suppressor and back-vented gas dirtied the chamber.
Shooting in the field, I was forced to literally pry back the bolt to unjam the stuck round with a slotted screwdriver. This marred up the paint
around the front of the ejection port. I guess it added some "character" to the rifle.
Bear in mind, this is on my reloads and there is always a fair bit of tweaking when it comes to loading for a precision AR.
Hornady factory rounds shoot fine in the gun.
5 shot group-clean barrel
Regular FL sizing dies DO NOT size far enough down and some cases can get jammed going into battery. If
you plan on reloading, get a small base die.
This was an even bigger issue when I screwed on my suppressor and back-vented gas dirtied the chamber.
Shooting in the field, I was forced to literally pry back the bolt to unjam the stuck round with a slotted screwdriver. This marred up the paint
around the front of the ejection port. I guess it added some "character" to the rifle.
Bear in mind, this is on my reloads and there is always a fair bit of tweaking when it comes to loading for a precision AR.
Hornady factory rounds shoot fine in the gun.
5 shot group-clean barrel
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I own and shot a lot of AR10 platforms and JP LRP-07 is the best by far in my opinion. It is not just tweaking but a redesign.
I agree. I have owned them all. My jp out shot my bolt rifle yesterday. I adjusted my gas system perfect and their brake makes it feel like a .22. I love this rifle
well, mine finally landed. Did you guys do the barrel break in process? It doesn't appear to be too intensive. Also, I am looking for a starting point on a load (mine is .260). A buddy shoots the 139gr Scenar, but I'm curious if a 123 VLD, pushing 29+ would rock and roll? Anyone with a starting point? I'll throw some photos up once I get the scope mounted.
Do the break in! Its simple, easy, and recommended by JP. I equalled it to putting the best breaks money could by on my car, and not listening to rhe mechanics break in procedure...
