Rifle Scopes Scope selection conundrum Leupold vs Bushnell. Asking for input.

[Steel_Weasel]

After several weeks of comparing performance and reading reviews of optics within my budget I have narrowed down the options to two manufacturers and FFP three scopes. However,I have little experience with the exact models listed. My use is target shooting on a .308 out to 600m. Any input is appreciated.

In no particular order:

#1 Bushnell DMR/FFP (3.5-21x): Initially my primary choice. The reviews seem very solid, despite questions about optical clarity at the higher magnifications. However, I may be putting too much stock the G2 reticle and in some respects it's 34mm tube is more trouble than it's worth to me.

#2 Bushnell ERS/FFP (6-24x): For a price comparison I'm trying to sort out what this optic doesn't do in respect to the DMR? Similar power range, G2 reticle, decent reviews and such, I get a comparable scope at a lower cost.

#3 Leupold M4-ERT/FFP/M5 (8.5-25x): The only issue counting against Leupold is the TMR reticle, which in comparison to the G2 is less capable but all things considered I'm not certain whether it matters.

Anyone with input or direct experience between any of these models ?

Thanks.

 

[VJJPunisher]

If your not needing speed holdovers the TMR is loved by many, a very solid reticle. Ballhair shit fuck

 

[TallShot]

I can comment on the DMR.

I really like it. I have about 750rds under it. Have shot in the rain, super humidity, heat, and starting to get in the cooler temps. It's taken a fall and held zero. It's tracked spot on to 790 yards. I love the reticle.

Having said that, it tunnels below 5x, the reticle is almost useless at 3.5x in low light. At 21x, it gets a bit dark, and eye box gets fussy. So for me it's more of a 5-20 scope. I usually shoot at 12-15x.

I'll probably buy another for my next rifle though. Just nothing in the same price range that compares in my opinion.

 

[Chiller]

After several weeks of comparing performance and reading reviews of optics within my budget I have narrowed down the options to two manufacturers and FFP three scopes. However,I have little experience with the exact models listed. My use is target shooting on a .308 out to 600m. Any input is appreciated.

In no particular order:

#1 Bushnell DMR/FFP (3.5-21x): Initially my primary choice. The reviews seem very solid, despite questions about optical clarity at the higher magnifications. However, I may be putting too much stock the G2 reticle and in some respects it's 34mm tube is more trouble than it's worth to me.

#2 Bushnell ERS/FFP (6-24x): For a price comparison I'm trying to sort out what this optic doesn't do in respect to the DMR? Similar power range, G2 reticle, decent reviews and such, I get a comparable scope at a lower cost.

#3 Leupold M4-ERT/FFP/M5 (8.5-25x): The only issue counting against Leupold is the TMR reticle, which in comparison to the G2 is less capable but all things considered I'm not certain whether it matters.

Anyone with input or direct experience between any of these models ?

Thanks.

A few questions

Why is the 34mm any trouble?

You seem to be after more magnification, is there a reason?

Have you considered the Vortex PST scopes as well?

Size of targets you will be shooting?

 

[Steel_Weasel]

A few questions

Why is the 34mm any trouble?

You seem to be after more magnification, is there a reason?

Have you considered the Vortex PST scopes as well?

Size of targets you will be shooting?

Let me re-phrase the 34mm issue. For my purposes what does the 34mm give me over a 30mm tube; besides more adjustment. Again, this goes back to the DMR vs ERS.

Magnification isn't so much an issue as what performance I can fit within my budget. The scopes I have settled on are all within a "window".

I know Vortex makes a quality product but for some reason I don't care for them.

Target size is variable depending on range. 6" plates is most common.

 

[Chiller]

Let me re-phrase the 34mm issue. For my purposes what does the 34mm give me over a 30mm tube; besides more adjustment. Again, this goes back to the DMR vs ERS.

Magnification isn't so much an issue as what performance I can fit within my budget. The scopes I have settled on are all within a "window".

I know Vortex makes a quality product but for some reason I don't care for them.

Target size is variable depending on range. 6" plates is most common.

A wise person once told me....You cant hit what you cant see.

Optics is a place that it is wise to get the best you can afford.

If you stay in the game long enough you will find that you will in all probability pick up a higher performance caliber than the .308 and that extra adjustment will help. The 34mm with the addition of a 20MOA base will help to keep you more optically centered as you begin to dial out.

Get behind all the glass you can find to see what you like and what works for you in reality as opposed to a spec sheet.

What I have used (on a limited basis) would be the DMR

 

[tylerw02]

My experience tells me that the ultra high magnification scopes, especially the moderate cost scopes, tend to have tight eye boxes. If looking at Leupold, go with the 6.5-20x version. The 25x is barely usable.

 

[goodmanfj]

I have had all 3 , You would be in great shape with any of those, I am sticking with the Bushnell FFP G2

 

[jtrax]

After several weeks of comparing performance and reading reviews of optics within my budget I have narrowed down the options to two manufacturers and FFP three scopes. However,I have little experience with the exact models listed. My use is target shooting on a .308 out to 600m. Any input is appreciated.

In no particular order:

#1 Bushnell DMR/FFP (3.5-21x): Initially my primary choice. The reviews seem very solid, despite questions about optical clarity at the higher magnifications. However, I may be putting too much stock the G2 reticle and in some respects it's 34mm tube is more trouble than it's worth to me.

#2 Bushnell ERS/FFP (6-24x): For a price comparison I'm trying to sort out what this optic doesn't do in respect to the DMR? Similar power range, G2 reticle, decent reviews and such, I get a comparable scope at a lower cost.

#3 Leupold M4-ERT/FFP/M5 (8.5-25x): The only issue counting against Leupold is the TMR reticle, which in comparison to the G2 is less capable but all things considered I'm not certain whether it matters.

Anyone with input or direct experience between any of these models ?

Thanks.

Have you considered a SWFA SS HD 5-20x50? Overall, it is hard to beat in your price range. Mechanically solid. Robust. Glass quality trumps every other optic in this price category.

 

[FunkBass2008]

I'm running the ERS and its great. At low power it is difficult to make out the reticle a bit, but not a huge problem. I've also used Vortex PST and like it, but I definitely see a difference in the ERS with quality.