Holster for rifle bolt

[triceratops3]

I was just thinking about it this past weekend and I realized I don't really have anywhere proper to put my rifle bolt when its not in the rifle and wanted to find something to fix that.

I didn't find much except for some leather ones. I just wanted to know

1. What does everyone do with their bolt while at a match? Particularly ones where removing the bolt is required.

2. Do you guys think a holster made from kydex or something would work? Perhaps have molle webbing for attaching to a pack or battle belt and a loop to allow for putting on a regular belt for a more minimalistic times?

Thanks.

 

[19Scout77]

Shot alot a matches. Never required to pull bolt...ever. I must not be shooting the right kinda matches.

 

[tmpohuski7]

I have been to bench rest and ground hog matches where bolts are only allowed in the gun when shooting. These guys clean a lot during matches so handling the gun on and around a table behind the line is common. Not like us "Tactical" guys that just drop our rifle on the ground next to our packs between stages.

 

[tip2oo3]

Shot alot a matches. Never required to pull bolt...ever. I must not be shooting the right kinda matches.

Thunder valley rule, I stash mine in the cargo pockets.

 

[ORD]

One more vote for the pockets God gave ya!!

If you need/want a little more "protection" for your bolt...then a Crown Royal bag + a cargo pocket oughta do it.

Anything more than that and you are just building a solution that is overkill x1k.

Good luck!

 

[Hairball]

Toss it in your pocket and if you want to get fancy, buy a Maglite pouch and put it in there

 

[triceratops3]

Yup, TVP you gotta remove the bolt. I either throw it in my cargo pocket, regular pocket or on/in my pack. It works but it flops around in the cargo pocket, pokes you in the regular pocket and seems to get buried in the pack or falls off of it and into the dirt.

I'm not really looking for more protection than what a pocket would offer, I just dont want it flopping around, poking me, or going in the dirt and would like to have a place specifically for it so I have it when I need it.

I never thought about a maglite pouch.

 

[FN in MT]

Many years back I attended a Benchrest Match.

I saw almost all of the shooters with little bolt HOLSTERS to carry their bolts. Sinclair Intl still shows them in their catalog and online.

 

[KTDLS7]

The case my Sparrow (.22 suppressor) came with would work quite well. Bolt slips right in and it has a velcro retaining strap.

 

[kmose73]

Watch cool hand luke

 

[Graham]

Holster for rifle bolt

Thunder valley rule, I stash mine in the cargo pockets.

But the rifle won't work without the bolt....

Do they make you take the slides off of your pistols as well?

 

[Rob01]

Yeah that's a stupid rule but one I guess you have to live with. Chamber flags would be a better option. If you have a stock pack the bolt will probably fit in that so it can stay with the rifle.

But if you wanted something a quick google search found these

Bolt Holsters & Protectors | Shooting Accessories

Middlebranch Leather Bolt Holster | Sinclair Intl

Product Details

 

[Ring]

skull monkey in ohio, makes a bolt pouch, i think its 20$ he is down at rayners all the time

ask him on FB

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Skull-Monkey-Gear/299079193478527

 

[athhud]

Just bring another rifle to store the bolt in


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[mattwaage1]

Another idea perhaps... what about a mini-maglight holster? Or something similar.

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[fubar1217]

Someone mentioned that already

 

[GrantA]

looking at the ones on midway, if something to cover the whole bolt/handle tickles your fancy you could grab a zippered tool pouch from lowes/home depot/harbor freight.

 

[tt123]

I used to carry my bolt in an old sock in my pocket. It'll keep the worst dust and such off it, and offer some impact protection (especially if you use a ski sock!).

You should watch out with leather bolt holsters, or at least make sure to buy a good quality one. A buddy of mine has just bought an old Brno which was in excellent condition, apart from the bolt which had been stored in a (possibly home made) leather pouch, and had been rusted by the leather. From what I hear that can be a problem with chrome tanned leather.

 

[Graham]

I used to carry my bolt locked in a vault that required two keys and had the combination changed daily. Only people with a Top Secret code word clearance had access to the combination, and there was a verification and a morality acceptance protocol for use of the two keys.

Rifles are inherently dangerous, and I found that mine became much safer when I imposed those safety requirements on it.

 

[MikeEzell]

It's not a bad idea to always remove the bolt from a bolt gun. Any time the line is cold, have all shooters on the line show their removed bolt and no bolts in guns except on the firing line/stage. It seems like a very small bit of effort that just might help prevent a tragic accident.

 

[Graham]

Holster for rifle bolt

It's not a bad idea to always remove the bolt from a bolt gun. Any time the line is cold, have all shooters on the line show their removed bolt and no bolts in guns except on the firing line/stage. It seems like a very small bit of effort that just might help prevent a tragic accident.

There are many, many occasions when it's a bad idea to remove the bolt from a bolt gun. Trust me on this one.

I so love the "if it saves one life it's worth it" arguments; they are right up there in logic with the "do it for the children" imperative.

The issue isn't whether some minor effort could help reduce any small risk of a tragic accident. By the same logic, the DC law that required all handguns to be disassembled in the home was an effective way of preventing gun accidents.

Modifying your rifle, or locking it up, does not prevent accidents. That range will be no safer if they implement the rule that all rifles must be disassembled and locked in the trunks of cars prior to changing targets.

Maybe everyone should also be required to put the safety on before removing the bolt before showing their removed bolt: after all, doing that is but a small extra effort that could help prevent a tragic accident.

...BTW, has anyone ever heard of the four gun safety rules?!

 

[MikeEzell]

There are many, many occasions when it's a bad idea to remove the bolt from a bolt gun. Trust me on this one.

I so love the "if it saves one life it's worth it" arguments; they are right up there in logic with the "do it for the children" imperative.

The issue isn't whether a small effort could help reduce any small risk of a tragic accident. By the same logic, the DC law that required all handguns to be disassembled in the home was an effective way of preventing gun accidents.

Modifying your rifle, or locking it up, does not prevent accidents. The range will be no safer if they implement the rule that all rifles must be disassembled and locked in the trunks of cars prior to changing targets.

Maybe everyone should also be required to put the safety on before removing the bolt before showing their removed bolt: after all, doing that is but a small extra effort that could help prevent a tragic accident.

...BTW, has anyone ever heard of the four gun safety rules?

Please name one instance where removing the bolt while on the range is a bad idea, while not shooting, of course. People go downrange while guns are left on the line. Being human, one can safely assume that mistakes do happen. How can all shooters holding their bolt in the air at the cease fire possibly do anything but make things safer?

Respectfully, you're trying to take this on a tangent about civil liberties when it has absolutely nothing to do with it at all. Would you prefer to be downrange trusting that no one mistakenly left a round chambered, then went to unload only to have an ad with you downrange?

 

[Graham]

Holster for rifle bolt

How can all shooters holding their bolt in the air at the cease fire possibly do anything but make things safer?

Seriously?!!

Respectfully, it has nothing to do with civil liberties: Keeping the bolt in my rifle isn't a civil right.

It has everything to do with how one implements effective safety practices based on an understanding of firearms safety, rather than substituting or adding feel-good rules designed to counter irrational fears.

Would you prefer to be downrange trusting that no one mistakenly left a round chambered, then went to unload only to have an ad with you downrange?

That illustrates my point about misunderstanding gun safety: First, rifles don't discharge themselves when you turn your back on them; and second, pulling the bolt neither addresses not prevents the problem of people handling their guns while others are downrange.

Edited to add:

However, if your plan was to dump a case of ball ammo on the dayroom floor of an insane asylum, then give all the inmates bolt guns, I would agree that the most expedient method of enforcing any kind of meaningful gun safety would be to pull all the bolts and keep them.

 

[MikeEzell]

Seriously?!!

Respectfully, it has nothing to do with civil liberties: Keeping the bolt in my rifle isn't a civil right.

It has everything to do with how one implements effective safety practices based on an understanding of firearms safety, rather than substituting or adding feel-good rules designed to counter irrational fears.

That illustrates my point about misunderstanding gun safety: First, rifles don't discharge themselves when you turn your back on them; and second, pulling the bolt neither addresses not prevents the problem of people handling their guns while others are downrange.

You're waayyy out there on this subject. Why, I have no idea.

Of course removing the bolt completely makes the range a safer place to be. It renders the gun harmless, even by mistake. Since we're human, mistakes can be counted on. The price can be nil or loss of life.

I'm pretty sure that I understand gun safety. Part of that is understanding that it is a false presumption that being a mechanical device, a gun CAN'T fail...it can. Admittedly rarely, particularly when triggers and such are properly adjusted. But another very important part of gun safety has to do with the human element. People make mistakes. They forget, they fall, they drop things, etc. A bolt action rifle with no bolt is immune to these human elements.

I'd feel better if bolts were removed. Simple as that. I have been a full time riflesmith for the last ten years. I've shot hundreds of different competitions, and I've seen things that you dismiss, happen. We accept a certain amount of risk whenever we are at matches. That amount of risk can be made lower by simply pushing a button and removing the bolt. I fail to see the logic behind not doing so. This is silly to even discuss further.

Have a good day!

 

[Graham]

Holster for rifle bolt

This is not about having been around guns all our lives. I know many people who have been around guns all their lives and still get things very, very wrong. One of the purposes of this site is to educate people like that.

As to your comments above:

1) Either a range is safe, or it isn't. A range is not 'more safe' without bolts in the rifles. For your bolt-out 'harmless gun' argument to have validity you must assume that people are still handling their rifles while others are downrange.

2) A bolt is a mechanical device. If you say that you don't want to rely on mechanical devices then you shouldn't be in favor of making extra rules about bolts.

The four gun safety rules are designed to address your concerns. I didn't make them up. They we here before we got here and will remain after we leave. Pulling a bolt is not among them, and there are good, fundamental reasons for that.

If it makes you feel better to remove your bolt then, by all means, make yourself feel better. But your critical thinking needs work. Meanwhile, consider not asking others to do ineffective things for the purpose of making yourself feel better.

Adding a personal gun safety rule does not diminish the importance of the four basic ones. Don't ignore the very first safety rule by assuming that by pulling a bolt you can "render a gun harmless".

 

[tt123]

On some of the ranges I've been to, the rules are that bolts are either open or removed when you're not on the firing line. I don't like walking around with a slung rifle with the bolt open and rattling, or risking getting it caught on something, so I'd rather just remove it and keep it in my pocket.

 

[MikeEzell]

This is not about having been around guns all our lives. I know many people who have been around guns all their lives and still get things very, very wrong. One of the purposes of this site is to educate people like that.

As to your comments above:

1) Either a range is safe, or it isn't. A range is not 'more safe' without bolts in the rifles. For your bolt-out 'harmless gun' argument to have validity you must assume that people are still handling their rifles while others are downrange.

2) A bolt is a mechanical device. If you say that you don't want to rely on mechanical devices then you shouldn't be in favor of making extra rules about bolts.

The four gun safety rules are designed to address your concerns. I didn't make them up. They we here before we got here and will remain after we leave. Pulling a bolt is not among them, and there are good, fundamental reasons for that.

If it makes you feel better to remove your bolt then, by all means, make yourself feel better. But your critical thinking needs work. Meanwhile, consider not asking others to do ineffective things for the purpose of making yourself feel better.

Adding a personal gun safety rule does not diminish the importance of the four basic ones. Don't ignore the very first safety rule by assuming that by pulling a bolt you can "render a gun harmless".

My thinking needs work???? You are a piece of work, indeed! I'm not proposing any rules be made/changed. I'll simply accept the risks of shooting matches under their rules or stay at home, but to merely state the obvious, that removing the bolt completely, from a bolt action rifle will make ranges safer is completely true. I get that you don't want changes....That's fine with me that you are one of those people. Just say that you don't see the need for MORE safety and leave it at that. We can agree to disagree. Just stop making asinine arguments to make your point. You're just making yourself look silly.

 

[Graham]

Holster for rifle bolt

My thinking needs work????

No, not your thinking; your critical thinking: It's the ability to distinguish between thinking and critical thinking.

I'm not proposing any rules be made/changed.

You just did, above. You did it twice: You proposed a new rule that bolts be removed from rifles before anyone went downrange. You then proposed that the shooters hold those bolts in the air.

I get that you don't want changes....That's fine with me that you are one of those people. Just say that you don't see the need for MORE safety and leave it at that.

You are correct here: I am only in favor of additional safety rules when they are objectively determined to be needed. I am not an advocate of change simply to make you feel better, or feel safer.

More safety is not better safety.

 

[Delta4-3]

Get a purple fanny pack to keep it in. When you open it to retrieve your bolt, you can "accidentally" dump your huge condom cache all over the bench. Everyone will be pondering how a guy wearing a purple fanny pack gets to use so many condoms that youll likely take the match by a large margin.

 

[Graham]

Holster for rifle bolt

Get a purple fanny pack to keep it in. When you open it to retrieve your bolt, you can "accidentally" dump your huge condom cache all over the bench.

You've obviously seen my rifle logbook, complete with a bolt holster to render my gun harmless when it starts to get a bit rambunctious and needs to be better controlled:

 

[Ring]

Just a fyi, u CAN use a chamber flag over bolt removal at TVP and Rayners...

Many guns u can't remove the bolt easily due to stocks being in the way..

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[Graham]

Holster for rifle bolt

Just a fyi, u CAN use a chamber flag over bolt removal at TVP and Rayners...

What??!!! No Hello Kitty bolt pouches?! I think they need a new rule.?

 

[bogeybrown]

Get a purple fanny pack to keep it in. When you open it to retrieve your bolt, you can "accidentally" dump your huge condom cache all over the bench. Everyone will be pondering how a guy wearing a purple fanny pack gets to use so many condoms that youll likely take the match by a large margin.

Now THAT is some funny shit. I'll have to try that at some point. Maybe with my socks pulled up over my knees, my pants up around my nipples, and my shooting glasses taped together. BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Graham]

Holster for rifle bolt

I'll have to try that at some point. Maybe with my socks pulled up over my knees, my pants up around my nipples, and my shooting glasses taped together.

Don't forget to hold your bolt in the air during the cease fire.?

 

[bogeybrown]

Don't forget to hold your bolt in the air during the cease fire.

ABSOLUTELY! Although after seeing your badass Hello Kitty Data Book, I'm thinking I need a Hello Kitty fanny pack, and maybe even a Hello Kitty chamber flag. Hell, I may even have the bolt cerakoted with Hello Kitty so it's high-vis and everyone can see that it's not in my dangerous rifle.

 

[Graham]

Hell, I may even have the bolt cerakoted with Hello Kitty so it's high-vis and everyone can see that it's not in my dangerous rifle.

I once had a rifle that was so dangerous that I could not make it safer simply by removing the bolt. It even devoured chamber flags like candy. So here's what I did to it, and it's a much safer rifle now:

 

[bogeybrown]

I once had a rifle that was so dangerous that I could not make it safer simply by removing the bolt. It even devoured chamber flags like candy. So here's what I did to it, and it's a much safer rifle now:

Hahahahahaha. I remember having seen pics of the CadPat Hello Kitty rifle. I'll admit at the time that I didn't even THINK about how much SAFER it was. I was so focused on how tactical and "snipery" it was that the obvious safety factor was completely overlooked. I'm thinking a similar design in pink CadPat.

To the OP, I swear I'm not breaking your balls. We don't get to choose the rules of the range, and if you're required to pull the bolt, then you play by the rules or go home. If I were ever faced with it I'd probably put it in my stockpack as someone said earlier.

WAIT, a HELLO KITTY STOCKPACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What was I thinking?????? I wonder if Eagle or Triad could bust one out for me?

To take it further, I may need to have my EDC pistol done in pink Hello Kitty cerakote. Graham, you'd be the obvious expert on this, but I've got to believe that it couldn't hurt to have a pink Hello Kitty pistol as Defense Exhibit #1 on a self-defense-shooting. "Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, clearly my client had no malice aforethought, look at his pistol for God's sake".

 

[Graham]

Holster for rifle bolt

You have no idea what it took to sneak up on that rifle, tackle it, and hold it down in order to affix those skins. It was a life changing experience about safety, let me tell you..

All I'm saying is that it's a good thing nobody was downrange at the time or they would have been in danger.

As to the pistol, I've seen a SIG 226 in pink Hello Kitty. It exists. Unfortunately, it's not mine.

 

[triceratops3]

Thanks to the guys that were to the point and wanted to help. I was going to call out Graham and ask why he decided a pissing match in my thread over a simple question was necessary; however, after reading his signature he did provide a disclaimer that said he didn't want to hurt anyones feelings. But this would probably only be necessary if all of his posts are just intended to stir the pot and piss people off, so clearly they are probably normally "calculated" or "intended" otherwise it wouldn't be part of his signature that goes beneath every single one of his posts.

I will say this though:First, I will try to find a small maglight pouch and see how that works or look at the other options given. Second, I'll say that removing the bolt while not firing doesn't make the weapons safer per se, especially if everyone follows the basic firearm safety rules. But for me, I don't mind removing the bolt because when I move the rifle I normally move it muzzle down to the ground and the bolt slides forward. and sometimes I will look at targets through my scope or looking through someone elses scope to see what it looks like or see others doing the same thing and if the bolt is out of the rifle you can clearly see that they wont be firing any rounds, whereas if the bolt was still in the rifle there is a possibility they could fire the rifle. I guess that's a poor way of saying it but to sum it up you can visually see the rifle cannot be readily fired (push bolt forward and pull trigger) if the bolt is not in.

 

[my human host]

Graham is so concerned with safety that he doesn't even sharpen his Hello Kitty pencils.

I don't care for pulling bolts simply because of all the crap that can find it's way into the locking lug abutments inside the action.

Whenever I shot at the VHA in Pierre, we were required to hold our bolts up in the air when the range was declared cold. Not my house, so I had little choice. Probably one of the reasons I haven't been back in a couple years. I did meet some decent guys there, tho.

 

[Graham]

Holster for rifle bolt

I was going to call out Graham and ask why he decided a pissing match in my thread over a simple question was necessary; however, after reading his signature he did provide a disclaimer that said he didn't want to hurt anyones feelings. But this would probably only be necessary if all of his posts are just intended to stir the pot and piss people off, so clearly they are probably normally "calculated" or "intended" otherwise it wouldn't be part of his signature that goes beneath every single one of his posts.

There's no need to make assumptions about my posts. You can read them instead.

The expanded discussion was necessary because questions about safety practices are not simple questions. Not when so many experienced people get it so wrong: They think that more security is better security. They think that more safety rules make for a safer range. And they think that it's OK to ignore the principle behind the very first rule of gun safety - treating all guns as if they are loaded - by advocating that a gun can be rendered harmless by using a mechanical device or implementing a mechanical solution.

There's no point in making stupid bolt rules at the expense of running a proper range. And if you run a proper range no one will be messing with their rifle when others are downrange so the rule won't be necessary. If no one messes with their rifle none of those rifles will jump off the table and start shooting people all by itself.

My point about the insane asylum is that it depends with whom you are dealing. If you want to give ammo and guns to a bunch of primates, then it's best to pull the bolts. Why? Not because they don't know gun safety, or because they can't be taught it, but because it can't be enforced in that environment. But if my team mate is behind me with a loaded rifle and decides to shoot an advancing enemy with his bullet passing inches from my ear, I'm not worried. I will tell him: Nice shot!

The explanation to my sig line is in the 'How The Hide Has Changed' Thread. It's a joke. It was a response to what Frank said and did about the new people constantly whining when their BS gets corrected here.

We agreed that respect is not like Halloween candy, where you can have some of mine if I can have some of yours; that's transactional politesse, it's window dressing, not respect. Real respect is earned.

As to what happened with your Thread, if you want to look it up it's called Thread drift. It happens.

Graham is so concerned with safety that he doesn't even sharpen his Hello Kitty pencils.

Now that's funny!!

 

[Delta4-3]

You've obviously seen my rifle logbook, complete with a bolt holster to render my gun harmless when it starts to get a bit rambunctious and needs to be better controlled:

You have no idea how jealous my daughters are right now....

 

[Graham]

You have no idea how jealous my daughters are right now....

You have no idea how jealous I am that you have daughters. I think you got the better deal.

 

[Delta4-3]

Three daughters and a wife...you could go snorkeling in the estrogen in my house.

 

[triceratops3]

I have read your posts, the one and this thread and several other threads, but not all 24k. However, I don't see why having to pull the bolt is such a big deal. I would probably do it anyways because when I move my rifle I point it muzzle down and don't like the bolt closing during that time, but thats just me I guess. Okay, I'm done with this because I don't want to bother with arguing back and fourth about this. But i do see your point in that why is removing the bolt necessary if we all follow the basic firearm safety rules.

You have no idea what it took to sneak up on that rifle, tackle it, and hold it down in order to affix those skins. It was a life changing experience about safety, let me tell you..

All I'm saying is that it's a good thing nobody was downrange at the time or they would have been in danger.

As to the pistol, I've seen a SIG 226 in pink Hello Kitty. It exists. Unfortunately, it's not mine.

And I will say that this actually did made me laugh.

 

[MikeEzell]

There's no need to make assumptions about my posts. You can read them instead.

The expanded discussion was necessary because questions about safety practices are not simple questions. Not when so many experienced people get it so wrong: They think that more security is better security. They think that more safety rules make for a safer range. And they think that it's OK to ignore the principle behind the very first rule of gun safety - treating all guns as if they are loaded - by advocating that a gun can be rendered harmless by using a mechanical device or implementing a mechanical solution.

There's no point in making stupid bolt rules at the expense of running a proper range. And if you run a proper range no one will be messing with their rifle when others are downrange so the rule won't be necessary. If no one messes with their rifle none of those rifles will jump off the table and start shooting people all by itself.

My point about the insane asylum is that it depends with whom you are dealing. If you want to give ammo and guns to a bunch of primates, then it's best to pull the bolts. Why? Not because they don't know gun safety, or because they can't be taught it, but because it can't be enforced in that environment. But if my team mate is behind me with a loaded rifle and decides to shoot an advancing enemy with his bullet passing inches from my ear, I'm not worried. I will tell him: Nice shot!

The explanation to my sig line is in the 'How The Hide Has Changed' Thread. It's a joke. It was a response to what Frank said and did about the new people constantly whining when their BS gets corrected here.

We agreed that respect is not like Halloween candy, where you can have some of mine if I can have some of yours; that's transactional politesse, it's window dressing, not respect. Real respect is earned.

As to what happened with your Thread, if you want to look it up it's called Thread drift. It happens.

Now that's funny!!

Simple minded arrogance will get you no respect from me. You are a pompous, arrogant person who thinks more of yourself than most anyone else ever will because of it. That's a shame, but it takes all kinds to make the world go around. To each their own, but your responses here have lessened the respect that I gave you in my earlier posts. No, you didn't earn it, but I gave it to you anyway at the start. I was wrong because you don't deserve it. Most people with as many posts as you have are what we call keyboard shooters. They spend more time on forums telling shooters how much they know and how things work...instead of shooting. I suspect you fall into this category but I don't know. You certainly fit the profile. If I'm wrong, so what? You still act like it. It really doesn't matter anyway. I don't care if you hold every record in shooting...You're still an asshole who won't have my respect as an individual until you grow up and earn it.

 

[Graham]

Holster for rifle bolt

Simple minded arrogance will get you no respect from me. You are a pompous, arrogant person who thinks more of yourself than most anyone else ever will because of it....Most people with as many posts as you have are what we call keyboard shooters. They spend more time on forums telling shooters how much they know and how things work...instead of shooting...You're still an asshole who won't have my respect as an individual until you grow up and earn it.

Don't flatter yourself while calling me names, especially on the Internet. Clearly we don't know each other, and have never met, so doing that when your credibility is at zero embarrasses us both.

You misunderstand: I'm not posting for your benefit or to gain your respect; I'm correcting bad information. It's one of the things that I do here. I'm sorry if you are feeling embarrassed. Embarrassing you wasn't my goal. It's just a bi-product of what you advocated and how you attacked to try to prove it.

And my post count is somewhat of an inside joke.... But maybe mostly it's outside by now, I'm not sure. Either way, don't mistake humor for arrogance. It is, after all, the Internet.

That said, don't dismiss after the fact a serious discussion about safety as 'simple minded', either. Be honest: We both intended it to be anything but that.

The rest is called 'Frank-ness'.

 

[MikeEzell]

Whatever...I didn't give bad information. I stated that removing bolts when not firing wouldn't be a bad idea. You really haven't brought anything up as to a reason why it would be bad except to proclaim the 4 rules of gun safety as being enough in your opinion, dismissing that people are fallible and assuming that they will never make a mistake....even if it is against some rule.

I also have not gone to any governing body or range officers to propose this as a rule. As I stated, I will decide for myself if I'm willing to accept whatever level of risk any set of rules casts and either shoot or leave. Enjoy yourself, Graham, or whoever you are. I'm quite comfortable in my level of credibility amongst shooters and just people as a whole. I call em' like I see em'. Sometimes to a fault, but what you see is what you get with me. It's worked out fine so far, maybe because I don't spend my time belittling people on a website that I've never met without provocation. But I don't sit still for web bullies talking shit without substance.

 

[Graham]

Holster for rifle bolt

I don't sit still for web bullies talking shit without substance.

Respectfully, based on what I have read from you so far I'm not sure that you could identify one, or recognize the difference.

 

[MikeEzell]

Respectfully, based on what I have read from you so far I'm not sure that you could identify one, or recognize the difference.

Oh, yes you are. As I said, I call em' like I see em'. We know that we aren't ever going to see eye to eye on much here. You might as well move along to make some other potential new member and/or shooter's day a little brighter with your majesty's presence elsewhere. Your job is done here. I've learned so much from your insightful responses.

Thank you for your great and thoughtful input. I'd be lost without your wisdom. Shall we all bow before you?

I don't see that ever happening by me!