Advice for a new long range shooter

[CalebFuller78]

I've been shooting for most my life but have never shot extreme ranges (1000+ yards). I know I don't need a super expensive rifle but I know that you get what you pay for. I also don't know the best round for what I'll be doing ( hunting and competition) I'm between 300 win mag, 300 wsm, and .308/7.62. Any help from some of you more experienced long range shooters.

 

[Bbowl1]

What have you done so far? Along the lines of precision shooting? I'm assuming you are going to use a bolt gun. .308 probably wouldn't be ideal, it can do it but you are pushing it. Id say .338 Lapua if you already know what your are doing with loading and everything.

My opinion is cheap is just fine out to 600 or so with loose expectations. If you are expecting sub moa past 600 at all reliably it will cost you. I'm sure some will say otherwise, just my opinion.

 

[bjay]

Why 30 cal?if your going to stay inside 1500 id say 6.5 saum cal or 7mm (wsm or saum) you said hunting and target id say these cal will take care both.if strictly target and only to hurt paper id say 6.5 creed 260,284 6.5x47 lapua or some 6mm..for hunting you need litle energy thats why i sugested wsm or saum without overdoing it with lapua..dont get me wrong i do have lapua too but too expensive to shoot

 

[cheapmoa]

If you are sticking with .30 cal. then the 300 RUM shooting 208 Amax will get you to 1600 yards with some energy. This combo will be less expensive compared to your 338 options and shoot a little flatter to 1600. I would grab the cheapest savage model with a varmint barrel in one of the following cartridges.
338 LAPUA
300 RUM
300 WIN MAG
7mm REM MAG
284 WIN
280 REM
270 WIN

Then throw a Vortex PST 6-24 FFP or SWFA HD 5-20 on it with a 20 MOA base and call it good.

My .02

 

[CalebFuller78]

I'd like to stay with ammo that's easy to find. For two reasons 1: I can buy it just about anywhere and don't have to pay more for shipping and 2: if the CHFT I want a rifle chambered in a round I can find easily. I've been shooting for some time now and I do know my stuff so I understand ballistics and average range on most rounds that's why I'm leaning more towards the 300 win mag cheaper than 338 and still has a solid range. I also would like a muzzle brake till I can get a suppressor just for recoil management.

 

[sinister]

300 Win Mag and 7mm Rem Mag will probably be the two easiest pieces of brass you should be able to find on the web.

Both will give you fairly good capability past 1,000 (out to approximately 1400/1500) depending on the altitude and temperature. Belted magnums have some limitations compared to straight-walled cases (both Winchester and remington Short Mags and Ultra Mags) but they can be worked around without being tremendously expensive.

Winchester Laredos, Remington Senderos, and a few other factory rifles -- with a good trigger and muzzle brake -- can get you started reasonably.

I am assuming you reload, as any quality long-range and ELR cartridge in quantity will get expensive if you're buying factory ammo.

 

[Graham]

You don't need a magnum.

 

[Crosshair]

280 Rem is a really well balanced cartridge when considering external ballistics, barrel life, recoil, cost, hunting effectiveness, and ammo and brass availability. It does everthing well. The .270 does too, but doesn't yet have the BC that the 7mm projectiles have available.
Magnums have their place, but are expensive to feed, shorter barrel life, more recoil, etc...
In the end it really comes down to COST. Everyone would be shooting Cheytac rounds if they were $.25 a piece and barrels were $100.

 

[cheapmoa]

+1

If I had to pick one round it would probably be the 280 REM. It does it all out to 1500 yards.

 

[r.patrick]

300 Win Mag will probably be the two easiest pieces of brass you should be able to find on the web.

Have you tried recently?

 

[CalebFuller78]

I actually don't reload that's why I want easy to find cheap to by ammo. I will start reloading soon though, but right now I've got too much going on.


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[yellowXJ]

Have you tried recently?

Seriously. 300WM brass has been all but nonexistent for the past year.

 

[CalebFuller78]

What kind of knockdown power does the 280 rem have. The main reason I want a 30 cal was for knock down power.


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