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Blackwater founder wrote a book/interview

[MENTION=91385]Darkside-Six[/MENTION],
youre a traitor! I saw a video of a dude named darkside six down there and he was stealing everyone's guns and anyone that back-talked, he shot them in cold blood! It's gotta be true, Al Gore invented the internet and he is an upstanding guy! And I herd a story from my close personal friend's dad's friend that is a real reporter! So I'm gonna keep saying things like 'you took my brother's butt-buddy's Desert Eagle and he wants it back!' until he gets it back! You stupid dull tool! This is AMERICA and since I'm sitting behind a computer I'm gonna bash you because if you are a part of an organization like BW, then you must be a freedom-hating traitor! You and that hesco dude are just a bunch of losers that need to go be Nazis in naziland! You un-American bag of sheep manure!
 
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

Ranger1183
(Blackwater contractor 2004-2008)

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Fuck me running....I see everyone is still at it this morning huh?



It sure as hell feels that way man.







Ok fellas, i'm going to try and elaborate on all this because it doesn't look like too many people read through the entire 2 pages of fist fighting going on here :)

This whole shit storm started because I first decided to defend Blackwater as a company in the fact that many people are quick to judge them but do not truly know what they actually do in any situation. It then turned to me defending myself as the flame war started for things that went on down there that we were not really a part of.

Now Armaheavy, everything you said here is good but it's above my pay grade, or dare I say my education level.

If you were to take my particular group that was in NO under normal circumstances and say to them......"there is a crack house in this neighborhood so we are going to go into every house and take all there guns as a precuastion" Well......A little light would pop on in most of our heads and we'd say something along the lines of "fuck you" BUT....during those circumstances, when there was this national catastrophe and all this chaos. Murders, rapes, beatings on an hourly bases.....and they came and told us that if we come across armed people to take their guns, to prevent further crimes......well I guess during all that we (or I) didn't stop to think if it was unconstitutional.

Here is the timeline for me with BW in Katrina, here is how it all breaks down.

Katrina happens.....disaster. Bell South Hires BW to work Security for their workers in their facilities while they work to get communications restored. We patrol the streets outside facilties and escort workers between plants and facilities. We start getting shot at by gang bangers, thugs, and bad guys. We show up in a bigger force. Things were more chaotic than originally thought so they send more PMC's down. Local law enforcement finds out we've had some run in's with some gangs and they can't keep up with it fast enough, nor the National Guard so they ask for help evacuating people. First thing we all thought was.....we're not fucking police and we don't really want to get involved. Someone higher up the company food chained sent it down that we were to help the national guard evacuate 1 suburban neighborhood so we were put in the shit. Again, we didn't go in guns up screaming at people to "get the fuck out" we were polite and said to them that everyone was evacuating the area. We didn't ask them for guns, we didn't give a shit as long as they were not fireing them at us or innocent people. nobody we encountered bitched at us or acted like they were intimidated by us, they did what everyone else did and vacated.

As for the guns we took, well when you patrol a 2 block radius at night around your facility and have numerous run ins with fuckheads trying to shoot at you and the you see some people who look like they're strait out of "New Jack City" with a few guns on a corner.......we rolled up and took them from them. Told them that the Army and Police didn't want people with guns on the street, and we left. Now I may be guilty of profiling..sure. but I looked at it as preventing another asshole from shooting at us down there....or someone else.

Now I don't know what the rest of BW guys did down there, but people are making it sound like we were just a bunch of rent-a-cops running around and throwing people into the street and taking their guns while we're at it.....and that couldn't be farther from the truth.

With that I would like to say Happy Thanksgiving to all. Let the verbal fist-a-cuffs commence, I'm about to go eat some warm apple pie with some cinnamon ice cream. 'Merica!


As you have written it here, I understand your position. Taking guns from roving idiots is one thing, and understandable. Canvassing houses, entering them by force, and blanket confiscation o persons fire arms (and Im not saying you or any other BW guys did) is an entirely different thing. That's what has most of us upset, and rightfully so. And yes this has strayed far from the OP.
 
Now Armaheavy, everything you said here is good but it's above my pay grade, or dare I say my education level.

It's not. It's your right as an American citizen.

Happy Thanksgiving to all.
 
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I can say this. I have refused to post anything since this place cowardly went dark on the subject of our rights.

I have to say that "this place" being essentially free of politics makes it much more enjoyable to peruse than what Calguns and some other sites have become, especially since Obamas election. There are forums for that.
 
As you have written it here, I understand your position. Taking guns from roving idiots is one thing, and understandable. Canvassing houses, entering them by force, and blanket confiscation o persons fire arms (and Im not saying you or any other BW guys did) is an entirely different thing. That's what has most of us upset, and rightfully so. And yes this has strayed far from the OP.

This shit was covered like two pages ago. People get so bent out of shape over misconstruing something that they stop reading what the other guy is posting.
 
I have to say that "this place" being essentially free of politics makes it much more enjoyable to peruse than what Calguns and some other sites have become, especially since Obamas election. There are forums for that.

Have to agree here. I don't think it went 'cowardly'. The boss was just looking out for his ass and his business. Pissed me off for a while but honestly I like it better. Less strife. Maggot out.
 
If you were to take my particular group that was in NO under normal circumstances and say to them......"there is a crack house in this neighborhood so we are going to go into every house and take all there guns as a precuastion" Well......A little light would pop on in most of our heads and we'd say something along the lines of "fuck you" BUT....during those circumstances, when there was this national catastrophe and all this chaos. Murders, rapes, beatings on an hourly bases.....and they came and told us that if we come across armed people to take their guns, to prevent further crimes......well I guess during all that we (or I) didn't stop to think if it was unconstitutional.

Darkside-Six,

First of all, let me say that I understand (to some limited degree) where your defensiveness is coming from regarding your former employer. I get it - there was a strong tendency to exaggerate every single perceived misstep by contractors, and a lot of good work by good men was overlooked in the process.

That being said, can you step back for a moment, read your own words as highlighted above, and understand why this would make so many of us so nervous? If we are led to believe that you and your brothers are good men who are doing good work for a good company, and yet you didn't "stop to think"; well, that simply confirms the worst suspicions that many people have about the basic tendencies of men following orders in situations where accountability doesn't exist.

Please don't take this as a personal attack, and given the fact that you're probably about 30 minutes down the road from me, it'd be great to hit the range sometime and grab a drink afterwards, as this is probably the sort of conversation that would be far more productive and polite in person than from behind a couple of keyboards.
 
Darkside-Six,

First of all, let me say that I understand (to some limited degree) where your defensiveness is coming from regarding your former employer. I get it - there was a strong tendency to exaggerate every single perceived misstep by contractors, and a lot of good work by good men was overlooked in the process.

That being said, can you step back for a moment, read your own words as highlighted above, and understand why this would make so many of us so nervous? If we are led to believe that you and your brothers are good men who are doing good work for a good company, and yet you didn't "stop to think"; well, that simply confirms the worst suspicions that many people have about the basic tendencies of men following orders in situations where accountability doesn't exist.

Please don't take this as a personal attack, and given the fact that you're probably about 30 minutes down the road from me, it'd be great to hit the range sometime and grab a drink afterwards, as this is probably the sort of conversation that would be far more productive and polite in person than from behind a couple of keyboards.

I'm done taking things personal on here, I think everything that needed to be said has been said by all of us so no worries.

That being said, I'm always down for range time. I've only met one member from here at the range by coincidence. He was a good guy, and I enjoyed the conversation.
 
Blackwater founder wrote a book/interview

I have come to the realization that your rights are generally up for sale, and most congressmen would sell you out in a heartbeat. However, after Katrina Congress passed a law preventing disarming. Although it will probably happen in the next event at least there was a law passed and everybody looked good for reelection. The problem is everybody is worried about what Kim Kardashian is doing, and not their rights. Americans have a very short memories as proven during the last election.
Still think you are free?

If the government wants to put you in jail for something you're going to jail. There's the patriot act, title X and 1 million other laws they can throw at you.

So back on topic as anybody read the book yet?


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