I can relate, as local stores by me have all been horrible. MSRP plus tax is the norm at these joints. They stock junk, and prey on the naive. At one time, I didn't know any better, and got taken on multiple occasions. They do their best to dissuade you from buying good stuff, simply because they are not dealers of those particular names. It really is sad to watch some unsuspecting guy walk out of the store having spent almost 3k on a pinned and welded bushmaster AR, an eotech, and 500 rounds of ammo.
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I can relate, as local stores by me have all been horrible. MSRP plus tax is the norm at these joints. They stock junk, and prey on the naive. At one time, I didn't know any better, and got taken on multiple occasions. They do their best to dissuade you from buying good stuff, simply because they are not dealers of those particular names. It really is sad to watch some unsuspecting guy walk out of the store having spent almost 3k on a pinned and welded bushmaster AR, an eotech, and 500 rounds of ammo.
Honestly, 99.9% of retail consumers want cheapest price over service. The days of going down to the locally owned mom and pop to get superior service albeit a higher price are in the past. Meeting and greeting to build a friendship with your local retail shop are in the past. Does it still happen, of course but its a very small %. If service was the #1 factor then all these small local retailers would still be in business.
Most of these box e commerce giants have a service card they read from, they are not given the responsibility to change and even supervisors are held to that blanket card. Its why you get low prices. Their model is to sell by volume, the few complaints do not matter, push them to the side and get on to the next guy wanting to dump money into the bizz.
Price savings is not saving when you have problems. Most times there are few but to the giants, its all about volume to keep the price low and the consumer spending.
Always and always open the firearm box, inspect it completely, try to chamber a snap cap if possible, look it over some more before doing the paperwork transferring possession. Once possession is transferred, you will lose in wanting to return a firearm. I am on both side of the fence but consumers do not understand firearm returns, you are not buying a coffee pot but a serial regulated by gov product that every entry in the bound book opens the FFL up to fines and penalties. And the retailer does not get a credit return from the vendor on firearms, the retailer eats the cost. Once possession has been transferred, chain of commerce dictates the firearm is used, never left the box, never been shot, its a mute point since possession has been transferred, it is a used firearm as the serial number has changed possession from the FFL to a private citizen.
As far as local shops not having want you want, understand every 30 days their bills come due and guess what, the vendor does not care if you sold their product are not, they want to get paid. Product cannot sit on the shelves you have to move 33% of your product to pay the vendor, now you pay for employees, electric, gas, water, sewer and those taxes, payroll taxes come every month without fail. So, the retailers must order want the masses want or buy, not the shelf dogs.
Retail is so misunderstood by the consumers.
Most of these box e commerce giants have a service card they read from, they are not given the responsibility to change and even supervisors are held to that blanket card. Its why you get low prices. Their model is to sell by volume, the few complaints do not matter, push them to the side and get on to the next guy wanting to dump money into the bizz.
Price savings is not saving when you have problems. Most times there are few but to the giants, its all about volume to keep the price low and the consumer spending.
Always and always open the firearm box, inspect it completely, try to chamber a snap cap if possible, look it over some more before doing the paperwork transferring possession. Once possession is transferred, you will lose in wanting to return a firearm. I am on both side of the fence but consumers do not understand firearm returns, you are not buying a coffee pot but a serial regulated by gov product that every entry in the bound book opens the FFL up to fines and penalties. And the retailer does not get a credit return from the vendor on firearms, the retailer eats the cost. Once possession has been transferred, chain of commerce dictates the firearm is used, never left the box, never been shot, its a mute point since possession has been transferred, it is a used firearm as the serial number has changed possession from the FFL to a private citizen.
As far as local shops not having want you want, understand every 30 days their bills come due and guess what, the vendor does not care if you sold their product are not, they want to get paid. Product cannot sit on the shelves you have to move 33% of your product to pay the vendor, now you pay for employees, electric, gas, water, sewer and those taxes, payroll taxes come every month without fail. So, the retailers must order want the masses want or buy, not the shelf dogs.
Retail is so misunderstood by the consumers.
Sorry to hear about problems with Bud's Gun Shop ... FWIW I've ordered at least a dozen firearms from them over the last couple years and have never had a single problem. Easy to purchase, fast to ship, period.
Bud's is NOT for a person who is unsure of what he is buying, or expecting to get all his questions answered.
Bud's is for those who know precisely what they want and do not want to any fuss/muss to get it.
I'm sorry if Bud's makes life more difficult for local gun shops, but that's competition and capitalism, folks.
Bud's is NOT for a person who is unsure of what he is buying, or expecting to get all his questions answered.
Bud's is for those who know precisely what they want and do not want to any fuss/muss to get it.
I'm sorry if Bud's makes life more difficult for local gun shops, but that's competition and capitalism, folks.
I am glad to have Steve at colonial armory close by. I check with him for any gun I want. If he doesn't have it or can't get it then he will gladly transfer it from anywhere I buy from. He also usually has a selection of high end guns and gun related items in stock and his prices will compete with the online stores. I drive 45 minutes one way past a handful of other gun shops to get to his shop, but it is well worth the service and selection.
I quit using buds, but might use them again depending on how bad I wanted a gun. I don't like that they charge credit card fees. If you don't use credit cards they will hold your money for about a week before shipping.
Grab a gun didn't charge fees and shipped the next day.
--Daniel
I quit using buds, but might use them again depending on how bad I wanted a gun. I don't like that they charge credit card fees. If you don't use credit cards they will hold your money for about a week before shipping.
Grab a gun didn't charge fees and shipped the next day.
--Daniel
Therein lies the value of an education. The got so smart that they lost your business and mine too. Some friendly advice... give your business and a little extra money if you have to, to someone who needs your business to feed his family. Memberships for the privilege of doing business, promote the kind of class warfare that would make any Euro proud. We have a grocery store in our area that did that crap. Gouged every non-member. I drove 2 more miles and spend all my food money down the street and apparently so did everyone else. They changed their policy but they can choke on it. Spit on me will ya...
It's like Costco, sams club, blah blah blah... it's their rules! It's not like you can just go into a Costco or Sam's club and start bitching about their retail set up... It's rather clear what you're getting yourself into when you walk into Costco or sam's club,,, or when shopping on bud's! If you don't like it, then stop shopping there & stop bitching about it.. Sheessshhhh
You can tell who has worked in retail before and who has not. Having worked in retail before, someone really really needs to go out of their way to fuck up my order OR do something totally unreal for me to get pissed off.
It was only about three to two generations ago when someone wanted to travel, to say Wisconsin to California, that it took months of hardship, getting stuck in the snowy Colorado mountains and eating the person next to your ass for food because you had no other option type shit. Hell, two generations ago, general mail delivery was considered amazing! Now amazon is talking about delivering your lazy ass package right to your lazy fat ass door step in less than 30min with a fucking drone is unreal... I'd bet money that once people got accustomed to having a fucking drone deliver their rifle right to their fat ass in less than 30min, that if it took 1hour they would start bitching up a storm! No shit! you know that would happen!
The very fact that your lazy bitching ass ( talking about what our society has turned into in general ) can order an item from a computer and have it delievered right to your lazy ass typically less than one week is down right amazing. The very fact that I'm bitching about you bitching about being a waste of space over the NET with this amazing thing they call a computer is amazing! God forbid electricity shuts down & fuel runs out in this nation! I think louis ck explains it better here.
Every single time I think I'm having a bad day OR an issue with a retail store, I think of this video and everything is right as rain. Stop being a bunch of little bitches!
Louis CK - Hilarious - Part 6 - Cell Phones And Flying - YouTube
You can tell who has worked in retail before and who has not. Having worked in retail before, someone really really needs to go out of their way to fuck up my order OR do something totally unreal for me to get pissed off.
It was only about three to two generations ago when someone wanted to travel, to say Wisconsin to California, that it took months of hardship, getting stuck in the snowy Colorado mountains and eating the person next to your ass for food because you had no other option type shit. Hell, two generations ago, general mail delivery was considered amazing! Now amazon is talking about delivering your lazy ass package right to your lazy fat ass door step in less than 30min with a fucking drone is unreal... I'd bet money that once people got accustomed to having a fucking drone deliver their rifle right to their fat ass in less than 30min, that if it took 1hour they would start bitching up a storm! No shit! you know that would happen!
The very fact that your lazy bitching ass ( talking about what our society has turned into in general ) can order an item from a computer and have it delievered right to your lazy ass typically less than one week is down right amazing. The very fact that I'm bitching about you bitching about being a waste of space over the NET with this amazing thing they call a computer is amazing! God forbid electricity shuts down & fuel runs out in this nation! I think louis ck explains it better here.
Every single time I think I'm having a bad day OR an issue with a retail store, I think of this video and everything is right as rain. Stop being a bunch of little bitches!
Louis CK - Hilarious - Part 6 - Cell Phones And Flying - YouTube
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too late ... it is clear you are a whiner.
Don't want to play by Bud's rules? Too bad for you. Go shop somewhere else but don't clutter up this forum with your stupid stories caused by your OWN apparent lack of reading comprehension.
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Tried to order a Dan Wesson Valor 1911 from them a few years back and they took my money in 30 seconds and then I could never get a straight answer on where the pistol was and if they actually ever shipped it after being told they'll call me back with a tracking number. Never happened.
Went with someone else and never went back.
I can see if the price is higher without a membership yet you can still buy the item, but membership only stuff is usually a pain in the ass.
Simply put, if you can get it somewhere else for the same price I wouldn't have wasted my time explaining it to them after the quick response wasn't what you wanted.
Went with someone else and never went back.
I can see if the price is higher without a membership yet you can still buy the item, but membership only stuff is usually a pain in the ass.
Simply put, if you can get it somewhere else for the same price I wouldn't have wasted my time explaining it to them after the quick response wasn't what you wanted.
Hey the thread topic is "
[h=1]Budsgunshop... another company who gives no fucks about their customers"[/h] and you clicked on it. This is the OP's story of something he don't like about Bud's. If you did not want to read about it you should not have clicked it. Now if the thread topic had been "Naked pics of my wife" and you clicked it and read a complaint about Bud's then you would have a complaint.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. It sounds like only OP was the one to lose out on anything here as knowing buds they will have a buyer for the guns in short time. I bought my very first gun from buds and had a great experience, it was around christmas time and they had a special on Gen 3 G19s with 5 magazines and a range bag for like $575 shipped. I Jumped on it and buds has had a special place in my heart ever since.
What a wonderful comment, thank for setting me straight.
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Bud's is a HUGE online retailer and by HUGE, I mean HUGE. Obviously, their will be dissatisfied customers, often through stupidity of their own, as the OP demonstrates in his post. And to make it worse, a stupid customer goes on forums online to try to trash Bud's and thereby puts the stupid on display for all to see.
You seem to be missing the title of Moderator or Administrator... Then again your also whining about whining.
That's "you're" not "your."
No, not really at all. At Sams club, Costco, and BJ's if you don't have a membership you don't buy anything, period. Buds team membership is a joke, you can buy a lot of things withouth a membership and others you have to have the membership. It's also constantly changing what you can buy with no rhyme or reason about it. It's fucking stupid and quite frankly they can shove it up their ass.
If they want to lose $10k+ a year in business then fine. I took my refunds and placed a $2500 order at grabagun. Fuck buds.
Owned. Gotta love when somebody resorts to calling someone out on grammar because they have no better response.
Wow, you sure told Bud's. I'm sure they will now simply declare bankruptcy.
What is your major malfunction? What a little whiney crybaby.
Oh, wait....I just found a picture of you on the Interwebz....this explains everything:
Your only response is to attack my one grammatical error? Lol... Boy you really got me there. Idiot...
There's a space in-between a "." and the following letter, and it's "whiny", not "whiney". You should also look up the word hypocrite.
It was a spelling error, not a grammatical error.
Spelling and punctuation are an essential part of grammar dipshit...
Look dude, if you don't like a consumer giving honest feedback then don't click on the thread. The thread title makes the contents quite obvious before you even click on it. You've added nothing meaningful to this thread other than showing you're one load your mother should have swallowed.
Please, oh, please...keep posting your whines. You just continue to prove what a little crybaby you are.
Do continue.
Do continue.
When you continuously come back with the same hypocritical response what does it say about you? I thought Amsdorf was a theologian, not a troll, lol...
Budsgunshop... another company who gives no fucks about their customers
Spelling is not part of grammar. That's one reason why spell check exists.
Punctuation is also not part of grammar. Grammar refers to the usage of words. Like spelling, correct punctuation applies to a writing but does not apply to the spoken word.
Think again:
Spelling is not part of grammar. That's one reason why spell check exists.
Punctuation is also not part of grammar. Grammar refers to the usage of words. Like spelling, correct punctuation applies to a writing but does not apply to the spoken word.
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Love that....
I disagree Graham
... If you don't spell words correctly then it can change the meaning which therefor alters the usage. We're also discussing the written word, not the spoken word. Either way, it doesn't change the main point I was expressing...The AMSDORF virus continues to spread throughout the internet sadly....
Budsgunshop... another company who gives no fucks about their customers
Personal disagreement with a definition does not change that definition any more than trying your very best wins the first place trophy.
And what you said does change the main point of what you were expressing: That someone who claims that grammar does not include spelling is a 'dipshit.'
Now you're reaching, trying to create wriggle room. You're still wrong.?I disagree Graham
Personal disagreement with a definition does not change that definition any more than trying your very best wins the first place trophy.
And what you said does change the main point of what you were expressing: That someone who claims that grammar does not include spelling is a 'dipshit.'
I'll stand corrected on my definition of "grammar" Graham, but your interpretation of my opinion regarding dumbledorf being a dipshit solely based upon the context of his meaning of "grammar" is an assumption.
It's poor style and not befitting someone of your obvious importance.
Finally....a voice of reason in the vast wasteland of stupidity this topic represents.
LOL.
I guess the only thing I don't understand in all this mess is why you need to play the layaway game if you're doing $10K of business there per year and buying 5 guns at a time (3 glocks + an AK + this other rifle you wanted).
If I can have a gun set aside and financed for free for 90 days that I don't need right away why not? I've got three safes full of guns, there's nothing I have to have right away.
Yeah because Graham is completely on your side with this and trying to help you out... lol...
What you fail to understand is that I'm mocking everything about this entire stupid thread, mostly the OP, then from there, everything else.
Bud's sells hundreds of thousands of firearms every year.
One whiney-pants hops on here to grip that they did not give him a discount he did not qualify for.
Then, the hilarity ensues.
I find it all highly amusing and entertaining.
Bud's sells hundreds of thousands of firearms every year.
One whiney-pants hops on here to grip that they did not give him a discount he did not qualify for.
Then, the hilarity ensues.
I find it all highly amusing and entertaining.
You really are mentally challenged aren't you? When was a discount ever mentioned? All I wanted to do was buy a fucking rifle at their full advertised price. You have to be one of the stupidest motherfuckers on this planet. I'm putting you on my ignore list so that my IQ level doesn't drop from reading your posts.
Budsgunshop... another company who gives no fucks about their customers
I am not taking sides. But I do agree that it is tedious to watch people vehemently incorrectly correct each other on mundane topics and without any particular purpose in mind.
Whatever, dude. It does not matter. You are just a little crybaby whiner. You start up a bitch and moan thread about Midway, then launched into Bud's. I'm looking forward to your next installment in the running series: "My Latest Whiney Crybaby Experience."
Maybe Brownells?
We'll all look forward to your next whine session.
Boo-hoo, poor me, look at me everyone, I'm so upset. Whine. Cry. Sniffle. Boo-hoo. Oh, poor me.
Get a life, guy.
Do yourself a favor and put yourself on your ignore list. You'll be better for it.
Maybe Brownells?
We'll all look forward to your next whine session.
Boo-hoo, poor me, look at me everyone, I'm so upset. Whine. Cry. Sniffle. Boo-hoo. Oh, poor me.
Get a life, guy.
Do yourself a favor and put yourself on your ignore list. You'll be better for it.
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Exactly. If you want to be exclusive, that's fine. That would be a purchasing club. Everybody who walks through your door is treated the same. I don't like places that split their Customers into classes. I walk into a store and the guy behind me gets a discount and I don't is another was of looking your nose down at me. If my money's green and it doesn't cost you anything extra to serve me, I expect equal treatment.
So, just to get back on topic...
The OP posts a bitch/moan about some guys alleged "bad treatment" by Bud's. Boo-hoo, whine, poor me. And this in the wake of his previous dump session on Midway. Not impressed in either case.
Here's a little reality check:
In November 2012 Bud's on a "normal day" was selling 600 guns a day!
But, read this story to see what happened when Obummer was elected again.
Point is that Bud's sells a HUGE amount of firearms and the vast majority of those sales are just fine, problem free.
So we are really supposed to take seriously some putz who chooses to come on here and whine?
Nope.
Reality check, folks.
Bud's is selling well in excess of 220,000 firearms a year!
Let that sink in.
You want somebody to hold your hand, give you a free cup of Joe, shoot-the-poop while you fondle firearms at the counter? Go to your local mom/pop gun shop and soak in all the ambiance you want.
And, while I do not expect some of the people posting here to have the mental accuity to understand this next point, Bud's has an A+ rating with the Better Business Bureau and anyone who has ever had a BB acount knows what a major paint in the tookus the BBB can be.
Check it out for yourself:
http://www.bbb.org/lexington/busine...hs/buds-gun-shopcom-in-lexington-ky-184205327
220,000 sales per year and look at their complaint level.
In other words, when you read people bitching and griping about Bud's keep in mind these stories are:
(1) Anecdotal.
(2) Relatively rare.
(3) Not very credible.
(4) Usually either a bunch of BS or highly biased by the whiner to begin with.
The OP posts a bitch/moan about some guys alleged "bad treatment" by Bud's. Boo-hoo, whine, poor me. And this in the wake of his previous dump session on Midway. Not impressed in either case.
Here's a little reality check:
In November 2012 Bud's on a "normal day" was selling 600 guns a day!
But, read this story to see what happened when Obummer was elected again.
Point is that Bud's sells a HUGE amount of firearms and the vast majority of those sales are just fine, problem free.
So we are really supposed to take seriously some putz who chooses to come on here and whine?
Nope.
Reality check, folks.
Bud's is selling well in excess of 220,000 firearms a year!
Let that sink in.
You want somebody to hold your hand, give you a free cup of Joe, shoot-the-poop while you fondle firearms at the counter? Go to your local mom/pop gun shop and soak in all the ambiance you want.
And, while I do not expect some of the people posting here to have the mental accuity to understand this next point, Bud's has an A+ rating with the Better Business Bureau and anyone who has ever had a BB acount knows what a major paint in the tookus the BBB can be.
Check it out for yourself:
http://www.bbb.org/lexington/busine...hs/buds-gun-shopcom-in-lexington-ky-184205327
220,000 sales per year and look at their complaint level.
In other words, when you read people bitching and griping about Bud's keep in mind these stories are:
(1) Anecdotal.
(2) Relatively rare.
(3) Not very credible.
(4) Usually either a bunch of BS or highly biased by the whiner to begin with.
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Did somebody say something, or was that just a fart?
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