Looking to get one of these to put on a 300WM. Anyone run one? Impressions? Thanks.
Night Vision Armasight CO-LR Gen III
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I emailed them about the CO-MR gen II, if it was 308 rated, and if it was actually shipping.
The reply was sorta prompt, and said the unit would ship within 2-3days, but nothing on recoil rating.
The reply was sorta prompt, and said the unit would ship within 2-3days, but nothing on recoil rating.
Anyone got hands on one of these units yet?
A friend bought one of the "ghost" models with a white phosphor gen 3 tube a few weeks ago from amazon. I have used a PVS 26 a good bit, and the PVS 26 has better resolution and WAY better build quality. But we were able to hit steel at 400 pretty easily. Only about 1/2 MOA POI shift from day scope only. I want to do a full review on it sometime soon. But than again I wanna do a lot of stuff that I never get around to doing....
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The problem with recoil exist in the image intensifier tube itself. Thin film models 3rd gen omni VI and omni VII tubes are thin filmed and are know to have problems with recoil with any caliber above .223/556. I have personally had my PS-22 omni VII pinnacle on a .308 AR-10 with no problems. However I stopped using the scope on my AR-10 once I heard of problems. I have not heard of any problems with any of the 2nd gen tubes.
I do know the 300WM has one hell of a recoil to deal with. I have scene them break day scopes on the first shot.
I do know the 300WM has one hell of a recoil to deal with. I have scene them break day scopes on the first shot.
I had a Armasight CO-MR GEN 2+ ID MG a few months ago and here is my review on it.
I recently had a chance to play with an Armasight clip on nightvision rifle sight.
I had the ARMASIGHT CO-MR GEN 2+ ID MG. Which has a second-generation image intensifier tube. On first appearance, I was impressed with the design and small stature. It appears well made, very sturdy in construction, and still lightweight. Weighing only 1.5 pounds. I noticed it had no mirrors in the lens just a straight glass objective. I have had problems with other manufactures nightvision with the mirrors in the objective in the past. The mirrors have a tendency of making external light sources distort the nightvision even at extreme angles from the objective lens.
I first took the scope out to the range on a full moon night with the moon being at 12 o’clock high. There were no external light sources at the range or with in a mile. Even then, the streetlights were at my 6 o’clock position. I mounted the CO-MR GEN 2+ ID MG clip on scope on my AR-15 with an 18 inch barrel and Vortex Viper PST 2.5 X 10 32mm FFP rifle scope. The rifle shoots ¼ MOA. I figured it would be a good choice to see if the clip on scope affected the accuracy.
My first impression looking through the riflescope with the clip on scope attached at 2.5 power was a very clear and crisp image. As I zoomed in the image degraded but was still very useable even at 10 power. You have to remember you are zooming in on the clip on sight, which is ½ in front of your riflescope not at the target down range. I first fired the rifle at 100 yards and got a ½-inch five round group that was one inch high and three inches right from center. This did not bother me one bit because every clip on sight I have ever used has had an off set of some sort. My biggest concern was, does this scope have good repeatability. So I took the scope off the rifle and put it back on to see what happened. I fired one more shot with the bullet striking in the center of the same group.
Which meant the repeatability of the scope was great. I tried it again with the same result. I then made windage and elevation changes on the scope and had the group move to the center of the target. I took the clip on scope off the rifle again and then replaced back on the rifle. I shot another group in the center of the target inside the first group. I must say the Armasight mount has perfect repeatability.
As for the clarity of the scope with a full moon high in the sky, the scope is capable of seeing animals as small as rabbits out to 300. I had to turn down the manual gain to get the best sight picture. Man size targets were capable of spotting out to 600 yards.
The Armasight IR illuminator was of little good with full moon. I shot my rifle out to 600 yards and it preformed just like it was supposed to. I was able to make elevation adjustments on the rifle scope and have the bullets strike exactly where they should at all ranges.
My next trip to the range was with no moon! I placed the clip on sight on the same rifle put the elevation and windage off set on the riflescope. I noticed the image was a lot darker with no moon and my range to identify the target was reduced to about 125 yards with no illuminator. However, the image was still good. I shot my first group and got a ½-inch group in the center of the target. The repeatability of the clip on scope is excellent!
I the used the Armasight illuminator and was able to see and shoot out to 200 yards.
I then tried an IR laser illuminator and was able to shoot out to 400 yards.
I also tried the Armasight wireless remote on this trip to the range. I personally did not like it because I had to hold the button down to keep the scope on. I would have preferred a switch that came on with a single push of a button and stayed on until I pushed the button again to turn it off. This would give the shooter both hands to shoot with and support his rifle better.
My final trip to the range was with half of a moon. At first, the moon was low in the sky and I got the same results as with no moon at all. However, as the moon got higher in the sky the scope improved. When the moon was 12’ oclock high, I was able to see good enough to identify rabbits at 200 yards and man size targets out to 400 yards. The scope off set was the same as before and accuracy was the same. I was able to use the IR illuminator out to 200 yards.
I also compared the Armasight CO-MR GEN 2+ ID MG clip on scope to a AN/PVS-4
Just as a reference for others and myself. When comparing the two you must take in to consideration the AN/PVS-4 has a 80mm objective with a 25mm second-generation image intensifier tube. The image was sharper in the Armasight CO-MR GEN 2+ ID MG clip on scope. However, the AN/PVS-4 had a slight edge with no moon. Most likely because of the 80mm objective with a 25mm second generation image intensifier tube.
Regardless both were capable of making the same shots at the same distances.
Overall the Armasight CO-MR GEN 2+ ID MG clip on is a great scope with performance comparable in performance to most other second-generation nightvision in a very small package. With the best mount out there for accuracy repeatability. The quick release mount lined up perfectly every time.
I recently had a chance to play with an Armasight clip on nightvision rifle sight.
I had the ARMASIGHT CO-MR GEN 2+ ID MG. Which has a second-generation image intensifier tube. On first appearance, I was impressed with the design and small stature. It appears well made, very sturdy in construction, and still lightweight. Weighing only 1.5 pounds. I noticed it had no mirrors in the lens just a straight glass objective. I have had problems with other manufactures nightvision with the mirrors in the objective in the past. The mirrors have a tendency of making external light sources distort the nightvision even at extreme angles from the objective lens.
I first took the scope out to the range on a full moon night with the moon being at 12 o’clock high. There were no external light sources at the range or with in a mile. Even then, the streetlights were at my 6 o’clock position. I mounted the CO-MR GEN 2+ ID MG clip on scope on my AR-15 with an 18 inch barrel and Vortex Viper PST 2.5 X 10 32mm FFP rifle scope. The rifle shoots ¼ MOA. I figured it would be a good choice to see if the clip on scope affected the accuracy.
My first impression looking through the riflescope with the clip on scope attached at 2.5 power was a very clear and crisp image. As I zoomed in the image degraded but was still very useable even at 10 power. You have to remember you are zooming in on the clip on sight, which is ½ in front of your riflescope not at the target down range. I first fired the rifle at 100 yards and got a ½-inch five round group that was one inch high and three inches right from center. This did not bother me one bit because every clip on sight I have ever used has had an off set of some sort. My biggest concern was, does this scope have good repeatability. So I took the scope off the rifle and put it back on to see what happened. I fired one more shot with the bullet striking in the center of the same group.
Which meant the repeatability of the scope was great. I tried it again with the same result. I then made windage and elevation changes on the scope and had the group move to the center of the target. I took the clip on scope off the rifle again and then replaced back on the rifle. I shot another group in the center of the target inside the first group. I must say the Armasight mount has perfect repeatability.
As for the clarity of the scope with a full moon high in the sky, the scope is capable of seeing animals as small as rabbits out to 300. I had to turn down the manual gain to get the best sight picture. Man size targets were capable of spotting out to 600 yards.
The Armasight IR illuminator was of little good with full moon. I shot my rifle out to 600 yards and it preformed just like it was supposed to. I was able to make elevation adjustments on the rifle scope and have the bullets strike exactly where they should at all ranges.
My next trip to the range was with no moon! I placed the clip on sight on the same rifle put the elevation and windage off set on the riflescope. I noticed the image was a lot darker with no moon and my range to identify the target was reduced to about 125 yards with no illuminator. However, the image was still good. I shot my first group and got a ½-inch group in the center of the target. The repeatability of the clip on scope is excellent!
I the used the Armasight illuminator and was able to see and shoot out to 200 yards.
I then tried an IR laser illuminator and was able to shoot out to 400 yards.
I also tried the Armasight wireless remote on this trip to the range. I personally did not like it because I had to hold the button down to keep the scope on. I would have preferred a switch that came on with a single push of a button and stayed on until I pushed the button again to turn it off. This would give the shooter both hands to shoot with and support his rifle better.
My final trip to the range was with half of a moon. At first, the moon was low in the sky and I got the same results as with no moon at all. However, as the moon got higher in the sky the scope improved. When the moon was 12’ oclock high, I was able to see good enough to identify rabbits at 200 yards and man size targets out to 400 yards. The scope off set was the same as before and accuracy was the same. I was able to use the IR illuminator out to 200 yards.
I also compared the Armasight CO-MR GEN 2+ ID MG clip on scope to a AN/PVS-4
Just as a reference for others and myself. When comparing the two you must take in to consideration the AN/PVS-4 has a 80mm objective with a 25mm second-generation image intensifier tube. The image was sharper in the Armasight CO-MR GEN 2+ ID MG clip on scope. However, the AN/PVS-4 had a slight edge with no moon. Most likely because of the 80mm objective with a 25mm second generation image intensifier tube.
Regardless both were capable of making the same shots at the same distances.
Overall the Armasight CO-MR GEN 2+ ID MG clip on is a great scope with performance comparable in performance to most other second-generation nightvision in a very small package. With the best mount out there for accuracy repeatability. The quick release mount lined up perfectly every time.
I have a Armasight LR CO Gen 3. I finally shot it last Saturday night on a Mega 308. It was shooting 1.5 inches right of zero at 100 yards. I removed it 3 times same point of impact to the right 1.5 ". I adjusted the Leupold mk 6 and shot a 2" 5shot group at 200 yards.
ETA pic its on one my AR15's. 8 power seemed about the best on the MK6. I havent shot on my .300 WM yet I'm
waiting on a Bobro mount so my scope can align to the clip on a McCree Chassis
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ETA pic its on one my AR15's. 8 power seemed about the best on the MK6. I havent shot on my .300 WM yet I'm
waiting on a Bobro mount so my scope can align to the clip on a McCree Chassis
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