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Night Vision Armasight Nemesis 6+ ID 2nd gen scope

Raven0369

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Jan 5, 2014
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I recently bought the Armasight Nemesis 6+ ID 2nd gen rifle scope. I received an email from Optics Planet for the 2013 Christmas specials with 10% off everything, free shipping and returns. So I was looking at there web site and I saw the Armasight Nemesis 6+ ID 2nd gen scope was on sale. Since I have a thing for night vision, I looked further and saw the price was to low to show, so I added the scope to my cart to see the price. The scope was on special for $1459.00 plus an additional 10% and free shipping.
I bought the scope for $1304.00 and free shipping. The thing that intrigued me the most was the large front objective. I have a lot of experience with night vision and I currently own six night vision scopes. I have found that the larger the front objective the better the resolution and light gain. I would rather carry an extra pound or two for the increased range of the scope. After all what good is a small scope if you can not see what you need to see, when you want to see it, or need to see it before it see’s you?

When the scope arrived, I was impressed with the 80mm front objective. The scope is large for the newer night vision. But from what I have scene the manufactures are trying to make the night vision scopes small at a trade off in performance. This is not the case with the Armasight Nemesis 6+ ID 2nd gen. I had to try the scope in the daytime because I wanted to see how good it was. I turned on the scope with the day cover on and was impressed with the sharpness and clarity of the scope for a 2nd gen night vision scope. This is the first rifle scope I have scene with the crosshairs mounted behind the ITT. I was surprised to find a black duplex crosshair similar to a Leupold Vari X III crosshair. This feature is great, because the illumined reticules have always obscured the target and made precision shot placement extremely hard to do.

I mounted the Armasight Nemesis 6+ ID 2nd gen scope and a Frankenstein rifle I made.
It is an AR-15 with the following parts, Spikes Tactical Lower, CMMG lower parts, Geissele supper semi-automatic trigger, Magpul MOE rifle stock, Armalite buffer and spring, Aero Precision upper receiver, Olympic Arms stainless ultra match barrel 1 in 8 twist, Yankee Hill Machine quad rail and covers, PRI gas block flip-up front sight, Knights Armament USMC flip-up rear sight, Delton charging handle with Badger Ordnance tactical Latch, Magpul grip, Magpul trigger guard, Smith Enterprises Vortex flash suppressor. With the day scope, the gun shoots ¼ MOA.

While mounting the scope I had trouble with the large objective. With the scope day light cover on, the scope front objective was too big with the Yankee Hill Machine quad rail installed. I had a choice, one cut the day cover and risk damaging the scope in day light, or two cut a couple of the rails off the quad rail so the scope would fit with the cover on. I chose to cut the rails off the quad rail.


My first trip to the range was cold and windy. So I did not shoot, I just observed what the scope was capable of doing.
Here are my observations results form the range.

30% Moon 07 Dec 2013

No IR 200 yards Excellent, 300 yards Good 500 yards Fair
ELR Torch 300 yards Excellent, 500 yards Good
Dipol Laser 500 Yards Excellent, 600 yards Good

Armasight IR-850 Detachable long-range illuminator
Excellent out to 200 yards and no good beyond that.

Excellent equals, I could see a rabbit sized target.
Good equals, I could see a coyote sized target.
Fair equals, I could see a man sized target.

My next trip to the range was on 16 Dec 2013 with a full moon night, with the moon low in the sky and 100% cloud cover. The observation was only a little better than the 30% Moon night because of the low moon angle and 100% cloud cover. However, I was able to shoot the rifle with no wind. The Armasight Nemesis 6+ manual says the elevation and windage adjustment are ½ inch at 100 yards. However, I found them to be closer to ¼ inch at 100 yards. My first shot was on paper and I easily adjusted the scope to 1 ¼ inch high at 100 yards.
The Armasight Nemesis 6+ manual says the scope reticule is 1 yard at 100 yards but I found it to be about 7 inches from one side of the duplex to the other, or about 3 ½ inches to the center of the reticule. Once I had the scope sighted in, I shot at a clean target to see what kind of group I could get. I shot a ¼ inch group.
I was able to shoot out to 500 yards with the correct hold over.

My next trip to the range was on 30 Dec 2013. It was a no moon night with clear skies and no wind. This is the night I knew I was going to find out what the scope was really capable of performing. I first shot a group on clean paper to see if the scope held it’s zero. And it did with a ¼ inch group 1 ¼ high at l00 yards.



I had just purchased a Luna LN-ELIR 3 Laser Illuminator and was eager to test it along with the Armasight Nemesis 6+ ID 2nd scope.

With (NO) IR, I could shoot rabbits out to 100 yards, coyotes out to 200 yards, and man sized targets out to 300 yards.
With the ELR Torch, I could shoot rabbits out to 200 yards, coyotes at 300 yards and man sized targets at 500 yards.
With the Luna IR laser, I could shoot rabbits out to 600 yards and see man sized targets out to a mile.
The Dipol IR laser had the same results as the Luna IR laser.

The scope was clear enough with the Luna LN-ELIR 3 Laser Illuminator to see my bullet marks on a white 12X12 inch steal plate at 500 yards.

With the right IR illuminator the Nemesis 6+ ID works as well as a 3rd gen scope in all lighting. The signal to noise ratio on this scope must be near 20, with around 54 lp/mm.

I would highly recommend this scope! ScreenHunter_25 Jan. 07 11.50.jpg
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cool review. wouldnt mind seeing some pictures through the tube but to be honest the whole thing almost sounds sales pitchy from you. just simply by how many times you repeated the armasight nemisis 6+ ID gen 2 scope....unless of coarse you simply like typing all that shit rather then just saying "the scope, the NVD, or something of the like"
 
Thanks for the input.
I was not trying to make a sales pitch, just trying to let people know what a great scope the Nemesis 6+ is.
I have bought about 20 plus different night vision scopes in my time and this is the first 2nd gen scope that has impressed me.
I am working on try to get some photographs through the tube. Easier say than done.
 
..." This is the first rifle scope I have scene with the crosshairs mounted behind the ITT. I was surprised to find a black duplex crosshair similar to a Leupold Vari X III crosshair . This feature is great, because the illumined reticules have always obscured the target and made precision shot placement extremely hard to do ."
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That's kind of cool idea . & not being illuminated . but when looking threw a Leu. scope with non-illum. Black duplex Ret. it shows up really good with viewing pvs14 . So it should work really well for shot placement . And there is no need of, Ret. on/off Brightness control knob . And no worries of long-term illum.Ret. burning image into the projected image of the tube .
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Thanks for the input.
I was not trying to make a sales pitch, just trying to let people know what a great scope the Nemesis 6+ is.
I have bought about 20 plus different night vision scopes in my time and this is the first 2nd gen scope that has impressed me.
I am working on try to get some photographs through the tube. Easier say than done.

Sweet! Wasn't trying to bust on ya just wondering if it was unbiased etc. anyhow, what are the click values on the scope, are there any other reticle options available? How robust do you feel this device is overall? IF you have experience with a Pvs-4 how does it compare in terms of clarity and image? Also, iPhone or the like is the easiest to get a solid image behind a nvd.
 
Sweet! Wasn't trying to bust on ya just wondering if it was unbiased etc. anyhow, what are the click values on the scope, are there any other reticle options available? How robust do you feel this device is overall? IF you have experience with a Pvs-4 how does it compare in terms of clarity and image? Also, iPhone or the like is the easiest to get a solid image behind a nvd.

I own a PVS-4. The short story is the Armasight Nemesis 6+ out preforms the PVS-4 in a big way. The PVS-4 has a signal to noise ratio of about 5 and is about 30 lp at 3.6 power. The Nemesis has a signal to noise ratio of about 20 and is about 50 lp at 6 power. The biggest advantage the Nemesis has over the PVS-4 is the solid duplex cross hair, just like a day scope not illuminated unless you turn on the illumination yourself. Both scopes have 80mm objectives. I am not aware of any other reticules offered in the Armasight Nemesis series. I am aware of the iPhone's ability to take photographs with night vision. I just am not going to buy an iPhone to take night vision photographs to post on the internet. The Armasight manual says 1/2 MOA clicks, However I have been getting 1/4 MOA clicks on my scope. The scope it's self appears rock solid like everything Russian made.
 
Sounds like a nice scope overall. Do you have experience with the dedal series stuff? D740-760
amd what's your take on comparison to those in regards to build quality?
 
I own a PVS-4. The short story is the Armasight Nemesis 6+ out preforms the PVS-4 in a big way. The PVS-4 has a signal to noise ratio of about 5 and is about 30 lp at 3.6 power. The Nemesis has a signal to noise ratio of about 20 and is about 50 lp at 6 power. The biggest advantage the Nemesis has over the PVS-4 is the solid duplex cross hair, just like a day scope not illuminated unless you turn on the illumination yourself. Both scopes have 80mm objectives. I am not aware of any other reticules offered in the Armasight Nemesis series. I am aware of the iPhone's ability to take photographs with night vision. I just am not going to buy an iPhone to take night vision photographs to post on the internet. The Armasight manual says 1/2 MOA clicks, However I have been getting 1/4 MOA clicks on my scope. The scope it's self appears rock solid like everything Russian made.
Its not made in Russia.
 
Thanks for the review Raven.
I just recently purchased the CO-MR HD and my overall first impressions are positive.For the cost I am very happy.
I am going to try it out for awihle a give my honest take at the unit,good or bad.I was kind of sketchy about all the hype with armasight,but so far its living up too that.I haven't got the extensive use in my conditions yet,but will over the next few months.
Gen2+ isn't a total waste.Period!
 
I had a D740, But A friend talked me out of it. It was a really nice scope for a 2nd gen. The best I had ever used in 2nd gen at the time.
Both scopes seem pretty solid. The biggest problem I see with the D740 and D764 now days is the price. The illuminated reticule makes for hard precision shot placement. I haven't used one in a few years so they may have made improvements. I personally do not like the illuminated reticules.
 
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We use the Nemesis Scopes. You can not beat them for the money. They are all you need if you want a night hunting scope.

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Another picture of a nemesis on my Daniel defense 6.8. This is one of our customers with a hog that he killed last night.

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