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Question over heavy barrel build

futurerider103

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I'm removing the barrel from my Savage 11XP hunter as soon as I get it and will be replacing it with a heavy barrel. My question is I have a guy wanting to sell me his 24inch factory take off that shoots better than 1/2moa with factory loads and his load data for more accurate loads for $65 should I expect much more out of a aftermarket barrel like a Shillen(which is what I was considering) to net the price difference?
 
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If you have seen this first hand I would think its worth a shot...much cheaper and 1/2moa is very good for factory barrel. Those are about the results expected from aftermarket barrels, yes. If it doesn't work out for you, guys are getting much more than that on here for factory takeoffs. Just my .03
 
Sounds like that might be a winner for me at least least try at first and hinge my skills plus that extra money cab go toward a stock or trigger I think
 
Either "a guy" is an idiot or he is full of sh!t. Nobody* in their right mind sells 1/2MOA barrel. If you have seen it shoot - grab and run with it!

* Disclaimer - I personally bought 6mmBR Savage OEM rifle that is 1" aggregate shooter at 300 yards; the seller was going full custom. BAT/Shillen/McMillan/1.5 years later - and he still hasn't out-shot the good 'ol Savage. Sometimes you don't know how good you got till it's gone.

P.S. Savage heavy barrels bring $100+ on gunbroker, $65 is a good buy regardless.
 
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Question over heavy barrel build

I had a Savage 12FV 223 barrel that was a no-joke 1/2 MOA shooter (on 2 different actions, in 3 different stocks), but the longest I ever shot groups on paper was 200yd.

I sold it to finance a new 223AI barrel, and yeah, I was a fool to do so.

I would be dubious of accuracy claims unless you witnessed it, or at least saw enough on paper to raise confidence about the accuracy claims.
 
Savage trigger: Basix SAV-1 or SSS Competition.

If OP bought the 11 Hunter XP .223 I linked to in a previous thread...I might be interested in the OE sporter barrel.
 
Either "a guy" is an idiot or he is full of sh!t. Nobody* in their right mind sells 1/2MOA barrel. If you have seen it shoot - grab and run with it!

* Disclaimer - I personally bought 6mmBR Savage OEM rifle that is 1" aggregate shooter at 300 yards; the seller was going full custom. BAT/Shillen/McMillan/1.5 years later - and he still hasn't out-shot the good 'ol Savage. Sometimes you don't know how good you got till it's gone.

P.S. Savage heavy barrels bring $100+ on gunbroker, $65 is a good buy regardless.
That guy is me, I have not shot a savage in a long time and I currently have 6 Bartlein barrels that I have setup just for my AI rifles that I pretty much shoot exclusively now. So I have no use for the factory tube. Other reputable shooters have witnessed the accuracy of this barrel.
Nowadays it's not like a 1/2 MOA rifle is a fucking gem. As I don't own a bolt gun that won't shoot in the .3's or less. I also offered to refund if he is dissatisfied with the barrel. 1/2 MOA rifles sell on this site everyday, how many of these people are idiots or full of shit?
 
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I am satisfied with your contract through pms as well as your guarantee so I'm sure I will be nothing but satisfied with this barrel :) thumbs up to you sir

BoilerUP I actually went with the.308 version of that same gun you posted
 
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That guy is me, I have not shot a savage in a long time and I currently have 6 Bartlein barrels that I have setup just for my AI rifles that I pretty much shoot exclusively now. So I have no use for the factory tube. Other reputable shooters have witnessed the accuracy of this barrel.
Nowadays it's not like a 1/2 MOA rifle is a fucking gem. As I don't own a bolt gun that won't shoot in the .3's or less. I also offered to refund if he is dissatisfied with the barrel. 1/2 MOA rifles sell on this site everyday, how many of these people are idiots or full of shit?

Wow, two name drops in one sentence? Color me impressed. When you say .5moa and .3moa - do you mean "this one amazing time" or "all the time"?

I would recommend to put up or shut up: http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...yard-bolt-action-6group-30round-shootout.html

P.S. To answer you last question; it's not an "or" it's an "and". They spend 5-6K on a custom build, shoot 20 rounds down the tube to their own extreme disappointment mostly due to lack of skill. If you don't believe me, see how many of these rifles for sale have "less than 100 rounds fired" and how many have "5000 rounds, killed everything shot at, won every match, want a new headache".
 
Wow, two name drops in one sentence? Color me impressed. When you say .5moa and .3moa - do you mean "this one amazing time" or "all the time"?

I would recommend to put up or shut up: http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...yard-bolt-action-6group-30round-shootout.html

P.S. To answer you last question; it's not an "or" it's an "and". They spend 5-6K on a custom build, shoot 20 rounds down the tube to their own extreme disappointment mostly due to lack of skill. If you don't believe me, see how many of these rifles for sale have "less than 100 rounds fired" and how many have "5000 rounds, killed everything shot at, won every match, want a new headache".
Not trying to name drop,just give an accurate perspective as to why I don't need the barrel. I have no interests in burning up my handloads,valuable practice time shooting groups at 100 yds. Not a very thorough test of marksmanship to begin with. Not going to get into an Internet war over it either as I couldn't care less how you feel about it. On the other hand,if you want "put up or shut up"the next match I plan on shooting is the big dog steel match at K&M Feb.22. Maybe you should sign up too and we could go head to head,maybe even put some cash on it. You come off as the type that thinks because you can't do something that no one else can either.
 
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I have no interests in burning up my handloads,valuable practice time shooting groups at 100 yds. Not a very thorough test of marksmanship to begin with.

How about 300 yards? More excuses? I know, I know - thorough test of marksmanship is all about claims, not proof.
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...ard-bolt-action-6groups-30round-shootout.html

I shoot F-Class and Benchrest - 3-4 matches every month year around.
You know what the difference between tactical matches and "punching paper" - single poor shot in score shooting puts you in the bottom with NO chance of recovery, none! In tactical match you can miss completely (even not just once) and still WIN THE WHOLE DAMN THING!
In steel shooting 1/2MOA is meaningless - it is not required to engage the targets nor is it ever measured. This makes me to believe that you have no idea what 1/2moa means, which insults those who do know what it means and what it takes.

I have no doubt that the take-off barrel you are selling is just fine; I just think the claims are unreasonable, and without proof the BS flag must be raised. If you don't have time or desire to punch paper for measurable results - don't, but don't claim that you do either ("just because you can't" attitude)
 
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How about 300 yards? More excuses? I know, I know - thorough test of marksmanship is all about claims, not proof.
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...ard-bolt-action-6groups-30round-shootout.html

I shoot F-Class and Benchrest - 3-4 matches every month year around.
You know what the difference between tactical matches and "punching paper" - single poor shot in score shooting puts you in the bottom with NO chance of recovery, none! In tactical match you can miss completely (even not just once) and still WIN THE WHOLE DAMN THING!
In steel shooting 1/2MOA is meaningless - it is not required to engage the targets nor is it ever measured. This makes me to believe that you have no idea what 1/2moa means, which insults those who do know what it means and what it takes.

I have no doubt that the take-off barrel you are selling is just fine; I just think the claims are unreasonable, and without proof the BS flag must be raised.
I have shot a small amount of F-class myself when I first started getting into precision shooting and did fairly well. I knowhow to use a set of calipers and exactly what 1/2 MOA means, even in tactical matches you sometimes have to take shots at very small targets sometimes at 100 on paper. So I, like other guys who shoots tactical matches still make a strong effort to get the gun shooting as tight as possible. Shoot groups at 100 during load development to make sure the rifle is capable of hitting those small targets. I don't wish to keep arguing about it. It's as simple as this,if he can't get the barrel to do it he gets refunded and I cover the shipping both ways. As far as my rifles go,if you don't believe me on what they can do you are welcome to come shoot them yourself. With your benchrest expertise you can probably get them to shoot even better as I have near zero benchrest experience aside from a handful of rimfire matches.