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Best use of limited resources?

besheff.308

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Due to a wonderfully limited mix of reloading component availability and expendable income I have found it difficult to go out and shoot a couple hundred rounds at a time and not think twice. So my question is, does anybody have any advice as to the most beneficial way to practice with say, 50-75 rounds a week. Do I go out and run a dot drill then place a shot at increments of 100 yards a couple times a week? Or should I wait till the weekend and shoot them all? Anyone think their is an advantage over either option?

I live in the country so getting to the "range" isn't an issue.
 
I already dryfire in my house when the sun goes down and at the range before making a live shot. I am more interested in what should I do with live fire
 
Due to a wonderfully limited mix of reloading component availability and expendable income I have found it difficult to go out and shoot a couple hundred rounds at a time and not think twice. So my question is, does anybody have any advice as to the most beneficial way to practice with say, 50-75 rounds a week. Do I go out and run a dot drill then place a shot at increments of 100 yards a couple times a week? Or should I wait till the weekend and shoot them all? Anyone think their is an advantage over either option?

I live in the country so getting to the "range" isn't an issue.

Depending on what your shooting(an AR goes through 100 rounds prety quick) I would do 50 rounds a trip to the range. I have found when you camp out at the range the first hour or so you are the most productive. After that unless your having a shooting epiphany fatigue and frustration start in. After that you(I) am more prone to just be throwing rounds down range and not really paying attention.
 
I can answer that, Data book. Always keep good data and be honest with your self, stay off a bench and keep it different. Work on wind with your shooting and dryfire a lot in different positions. Learn to call your shots and then plot them on your data page. If you can call your shots well then dryfiring will be very helpful. Go out and shoot in different weather conditions and keep track of it. Know your cold bore differences if there is one. Always look into the conditions and take your time, keep your head down, focus on your reticle, call your shots apply all fundamentals and check shots after you have fired to see if you did it right. All this after you know your rifle/load is accurate together. It's not hard. Just don't rush it and call/plot every shot and try to get a friend to help you with a spotter. Good luck
 
Here is my shooting report from yesterday which I think illustrates what RobertB is saying.
I fired a total of 7 rounds in 4 hours.
Have a shooting plan for each outing. Have specific goals in mind and carry ammo to acheive those goals. And for me at this early stage of learning to shoot scoped rifles, don't rush it. Do things right slowly at first, then speed up once you've made them more inate.

2014-02-01
1300-1700
8 mph NW, Wind was varying between 300 and 30 degrees off bullet path.
20F
Overcast

Savage 110BA .338LM, 1.5pd trigger(stock), 20 MOA scope rail.
Leupold 6.5-20x M5 TMR FFP, both turrets and reticle are in mils on this scope. Vortex bubble, Leupold High rings.
HSM 250SMK 2890fps chrono'd in this rifle
Atlas Bipod with 3 inch extenders, making it a 9-12 inch bipod. At 600yds I set the left leg to 11 inches and the right leg to 12 inches as I was on a slope.
Tactical Interventions sling, the 1.45 inch width helps with the carries.


I had moved the scope back one rail to try to help with eye relief, but still struggling with eye relief for this setup. Dry firing in the house doesn't help much because I'm wearing different clothes and lying on different terrain and aiming down more in the field due to firing from higher elevations.

So first I fired 3 rounds at 325 to check zero.

Here is target pic:



Shots 01 and 02 were fired with no adjustments. Elevation was good but shot was 4.5 inches left, so held 0.5 right for shot 03. It was 2 inches high and 1 inch right. So based on these results, decided to head to 600yds. I would leave the Redfield spotting scope on the ground at the 325yd FP and go back and forth between the 600yd FP to shoot and the 325yd FP top observe fall of shot. The Redfield is not water proof and fogs up in these conditions and can barely see the bullet holes from 325.

So at 600yds fired 4 rounds.

Here is target pic:



Shot 01 held 2.2 up and .7 left as this was the AB program recommendation. POI was 9 inches high and 6 inches left. After the first shot, I noticed the vortex bubble had broken into 3 smaller bubbles. I agitated the rifle until they returned to one bubble. This first happened to me firing 7.62 rifle at -5F temp, so I thought it was a cold problem. But now I think it is a recoil problem. Subsequently this did not happen again on this shoot. It should be less likely once the fluid in the bubble gets cold, come to think of it.

Shot 02 held 2.0 up and .5 left. POI was 1.5 inches high and 9 inches left. The wind direction had veered around more to the front.

Shot 03 held 2.0 up and .25 left. POI round was 7 inches high and 4 inches left.

Shot 04 held 2.0 up and no windage adjustment. POI was 3 inches high and and dead center.

Here are some shots of the 600yd FP





I walked a total of 2700yds during this shoot, up and down hills, so got my exercise. The whole exercise took 4 hours, counting loading the buggy, driving to the area, patching the targets, then dismounting to proceed to the 325yd FP, the up to the 600yd FP, then back and forth for each round fired, then back to the targets for the pics, then RTB. You can see my walkie-talkie hanging on the sapling. I used this to check in with the wife. I loose all track of time when I'm doing these exercises. Right before I fired the 4th round from 600yds, I asked when I needed to be back. She was cooking a salmon dish for dinner, and she said NOW, and I said 20m. That's what it took to fire the round, return to 325, pack up, return to the buggy, return to the target area and then return to base. Usually, I'm the dinner cook, but tonight she wanted to do her salmon dish. We're still moving in to the ranch. Takes a while to figure out how to transition from a life time of city life to our new ranch life, but it is happening.

One aspect of these exerices is to learn to remain calm at all times. I consumed 2 bottles of water and 2 protein bars. I spread the consumption out and used them as rewards. I could look forward to another bit of protein bar and some water after each return to the 600yd FP. And while eating my bite and having some water, I would pull out the AB program (on my airplane mode droid) and do some calculations to decide what to fire next based on the observed fall of shot. This also gave time to catch breath after the climb back. But focus on being relaxed and methodical. I will accelerate the pace later, but for now, just trying to do this right. Despite using dish washing liquid on my safety glasses, I couldn't keep them on my face because they fogged up and froze up. I kept my balaclava over my nose as much as possible. The wind was pretty directly in my face most of the time. This has really bothered me in the past. I am learning how to deal with it. Can't let anything bother you if you want to hit the target.
 
Rimfire training! Shooting decent ammunition at 100 yards is by no means easy; at 200 it's downright challenging. The beauty of it... all the same principles apply, and for only $0.10 per round

There's a Gamo air rifle review in the most recent American Rifleman. 4" groups at 50 yards... 8moa isn't my idea of meaningful training. Granted, high-end air rifles ($2000+) are capable of really impressive accuracy, but that dollar figure doesn't fit many folks' definition of limited resources.
 
Agree, rimfire training has been my bread and butter for the past year. I've sent about 1200 rounds down range from 150yds, 200yds and 325yds, both day and night (night only out to 200yds). But the big problem is it is hard to find decent rimfire ammo for a decent price. I haven't been able to shoot for 2 months because of this problem. I've settled on Federal AM22, 40gr, 1200fps. Not the best ammo, but not the worst for my purpose. I probably have 1 bad round per 100. On rare occasions I can find it at local gun shops for 8 to 9 cents per round. But I was just this week able to score 2275 rounds for 11 cents a round on GB, so I'll be back in business once that arrives. The gougers are really killing the .22LR availability. But all we shooters can do to help is stop shooting it for a while and I hate that option.

Also, I've used DM18A1B1, which is German 7.62 Nato training ammo. This is 10gr, 4000fps ammo. It is supposed to work out to 300 meters, but according to the ballistics calculators I've used it has zero energy at 300 yards. I haven't been able to use it past 150yds. The two times I've tried to fire it seriously at 150yds, we had variable 20mph cross wind and needed about 14 mils of windage! And this stuff isn't free, it is about 20 cents a round.

Using light bullets like 40 grain at 300yds or 10 grain at 150yds definitively stretches your wind shooting skills, especially if the wind is variable. If the wind is steady and you can see the fall of shot, then worst case you can walk them in. If variable, then it is a crap shoot unless you can guess the wind effects all along the bullet path (though here in Kansas). But I'm not sure it is much different with .338LM at a mile.