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Hunting & Fishing Looking for places to Prairie Dog Hunt in Eastern Montana and South Dakota

loudandproud

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  • Jan 19, 2014
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    Carlisle, PA
    Hows it going fellas.

    Two buddies and I are looking to do a prairie dog hunt this summer. Does anyone have any ranches out in that area? We would to make sure to throw the owner a couple bucks to shoot for the day. Does any one in that area know of anyone that need some varmint control?

    Any help would be awesome. There are $350 a day guided hunts, but that's not what we are looking for.

    If you have land you wouldn't mind being hunting, or know anyone, please PM me.

    Thank you,

    Bryson
     
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    Might want to re think your statement about "throwing the owner a couple of bucks." It shows two things about you, one you are cheap, two, you have no respect for other people or their property.

    Suggest you stay in PA. You will not find that attitude popular out here.

    What do you have of similar value you would let a disrespectful stranger "throw you a couple of bucks for?"
     
    Well... $500 for two days was what I was thinking.

    Im sorry that insults you. Responses like that give quality forums like this a bad name.. If you don't have ACTUAL input, then youre just trolling.

    Now move along and please get out of my thread.
     
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    Not gonna lie...rubbed me the wrong way too. Good luck with your search.

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    But how? I don't see how that verbage is in anyway disrespectful. That definitely was not the intent, but retorting with a post like that is just not appropriate. Is the $500 really that low for a trespass fee? Im not trying to be cheap... I just cant afford much more while im in school.

    I posted the exact same question on another very popular forum and had nothing but positive, helpful responses. This a great forum, filled with knowledge, don't ruin it for people.
     
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    OP, I don't don't think you were out of line one bit!

    I think it's BULLSHIT that a guy feels like he has to pay a fee for every damn thing these days. It's getting like Mexico where everybody wants their cut. The day I have to pay a fee to shoot PD's is the day I quit shooting them. I wouldn't be paying no $350 a day either to shoot some PD's that's for sure.

    Heck, my BIL owns a decent sized ranch here in AZ and he never charges anyone to hunt on his property. As long as his personal property, namely cows, are respected he considers shooting varmints a service.

    I posted a similar question last year on various forums and was directed by some very nice people on where to go find Rockchucks in Wyoming and Idaho. Mostly on public land though. One guy even sent me a link to a add on Craigslist of a Farmer wanting Rockchucks killed on his property. We both mutually benefited and it turned out to be a great vacation!

    I hope you find some new friends on your vacation and have a successful hunt.
     
    Steve, I definatley would want to give a rancher some money just for the gesture.

    How was the hunting on the public land?

    Thanks,

    Bryson
     
    It was good. Probably would of been a lot better but we ran into a big storm for a few days near Yellowstone.

    Our vacation was mostly about sightseeing but my wife and I enjoy camping in the middle of knowwhere as well. We'll search and find good FS roads and drive back in for a hour or two till we find a good spot then stay there a day or two and enjoy.

    I had just finished working up a load for my 20x47L using 55 grainers at 3830 fps so I was exited to try it on a Rockchuck since we don't have any in AZ. On our 3rd morning we broke camp near Alpine WY and headed out. 10 min from camp I was fortunate to spot one at 427Y on top of the biggest rock on a large hill ranged 427Y away with a 15-20 degree up angle. The angle was so steep I had to rest the bipod off the top of our cooler which I put on a embankment to get even more angle. Put all data into SHOOTER ,dialed in .7 mil, then shot and the rifle settled in time to see him helecoptering up off the rock! It was awesome, one I'll never forget.

    A few days later in ID we found a colony of those little ground squirrels which is another sub species we don't have in AZ. I hunted them for hours with the 22rf and had one of the best times in my life! That place we found was absolutely beautiful too, especially in May. White capped peaks, brooks and streams with green lush grass, many different types of wildflowers blooming and up in the pines. No wind and not cloud in the sky either!

    The next day I went to that Farmers property but the wind was blowing 20-25 mph. I still got a Chuck with the 22rf about 110Y out. I aimed 5" left and hit him on the first shot then followed up with a few more.

    Hey man, good luck on your hunt.

     
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    First, when you post on a public forum, you get public input.

    Second, your "throw the landowner a couple of bucks" is an insult. It shows an attitude that instantly tells me I would not want you on any of my property. When you fail to acknowledge your rudeness, you are showing it is deeply ingrained and based in ignorance.

    Third, you did not say 500 dollars, you said "a couple of bucks." Not that it matters. Most ranchers are not going to be influenced any more by one than another.

    Notice those cows and calves out in a pasture? You are looking at over 2000 for each cow/calf pair. Notice how the rancher has hundreds or even thousands of pairs? You notice how they are standing on land. That land is worth from 2000-4000 per acre. Notice how the rancher has thousands of acres? Do the math. The guy you are offering to "throw a couple of bucks" to is worth tens of millions. Why why would he care to have an insulting PA gas station attendant "throw him a couple of bucks?"

    I was really quite serious when I said you will get along far better in PA than you will west of the Mississippi. Do your self a favor and stay there.

    You did not answer the key question, what do you own worth millions of dollars you will allow a disrespectful stranger with two friends to use for one day who offers "to throw you a couple of bucks?" I really want an answer.

    No need in telling me not to post on this thread. If the mod's have an issue with what I posted they are not shy about letting offenders know.
     
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    A lot of the towns south of mobridge sd got hit with the plague and they are down in numbers. North and west of here around McLaughlin sd there are bunch of towns. My brother in law has a couple and poisons the shit out of them and lets any one who will shut gates and pay attention to the cows shoot them. He doesn't ask for money but sure probably wouldn't turn down a little as he wants them dead as it is a favor to him getting rid of the little bastards. Could also look on standing rock reservation web site as I think they list land owners who want them shot it is 70 bucks for a res license and lots of towns there also.
     
    First, when you post on a public forum, you get public input.

    Second, your "throw the landowner a couple of bucks" is an insult. It shows an attitude that instantly tells me I would not want you on any of my property. When you fail to acknowledge your rudeness, you are showing it is deeply ingrained and based in ignorance.

    Third, you did not say 500 dollars, you said "a couple of bucks." Not that it matters. Most ranchers are not going to be influenced any more by one than another.

    Notice those cows and calves out in a pasture? You are looking at over 2000 for each cow/calf pair. Notice how the rancher has hundreds or even thousands of pairs? You notice how they are standing on land. That land is worth from 2000-4000 per acre. Notice how the rancher has thousands of acres? Do the math. The guy you are offering to "throw a couple of bucks" to is worth tens of millions. Why why would he care to have an insulting PA gas station attendant "throw him a couple of bucks?"

    I was really quite serious when I said you will get along far better in PA than you will west of the Mississippi. Do your self a favor and stay there.

    You did not answer the key question, what do you own worth millions of dollars you will allow a disrespectful stranger with two friends to use for one day who offers "to throw you a couple of bucks?" I really want an answer.

    No need in telling me not to post on this thread. If the mod's have an issue with what I posted they are not shy about letting offenders know.

    1. Yes obviously you do, including trolls.
    2. "Throwing land owner is a couple of bucks" is a figure of speech. Money involved will be negotiated between what the land owner wants.
    3. I'm assuming you took the "throw a couple bucks" literally. It sure is funny how you see ads of landowners saying "we got a pest control problem" but then want to charge on arm and leg to help their problem. Its a mutual benefit.
    4. Did somebody piss in your coffee? Please answer I'm being serious. How can you insult the op about his intentions? You speak like you speak for all land owners. How is op being disrespectful according to you? To me it sounds like he is trying to have some fun, sure the landowner may not need a measly 500 cause he is worth more. Who cares. It's an offer and if a landowner wants to accept some sort of agreement (Clean up your trash when you leave, don't cause damage to my property, do some work around the land,etc) surely some may take that offer. Not all people are dicks

    Good luck in your endeavor op
     
    First, when you post on a public forum, you get public input.

    Second, your "throw the landowner a couple of bucks" is an insult. It shows an attitude that instantly tells me I would not want you on any of my property. When you fail to acknowledge your rudeness, you are showing it is deeply ingrained and based in ignorance.

    Third, you did not say 500 dollars, you said "a couple of bucks." Not that it matters. Most ranchers are not going to be influenced any more by one than another.

    Notice those cows and calves out in a pasture? You are looking at over 2000 for each cow/calf pair. Notice how the rancher has hundreds or even thousands of pairs? You notice how they are standing on land. That land is worth from 2000-4000 per acre. Notice how the rancher has thousands of acres? Do the math. The guy you are offering to "throw a couple of bucks" to is worth tens of millions. Why why would he care to have an insulting PA gas station attendant "throw him a couple of bucks?"

    I was really quite serious when I said you will get along far better in PA than you will west of the Mississippi. Do your self a favor and stay there.

    You did not answer the key question, what do you own worth millions of dollars you will allow a disrespectful stranger with two friends to use for one day who offers "to throw you a couple of bucks?" I really want an answer.

    No need in telling me not to post on this thread. If the mod's have an issue with what I posted they are not shy about letting offenders know.

    The only person throwing insults is you. Im not sure what your beef is. You are no better of a person because of what part of the country you came from. I can assure that im not a "gas station attendant", but honestly it shouldnt matter even if I was.

    "Throw you a couple bucks" is common expression meaning "to settle up". Im not standing there throwing dollar bills at them like a stripper... :)

    As far as worth of land and cattle... you are making allegations when you dont even know who you are talking to. I have a deep respect for the work that goes into raising cattle and managing land. I worked on my grandfathers farm for five years and competed with my short horns until I aged out of FFA. Im also a responsible sportsman and hunter. Nothing I have said has suggested otherwise.

    As far as have millions of dollars of property... I dont have it, so I couldnt answer your question. Our farm is only 150 acres. I do hunt on a multi-million dollar horse farm through...so ill ask them next time why they let a disrespectful gas attendant like me hunt there.

    I understand you have beef with me...thats fine. Im not sure why, but it doesnt matter.



    To everyone else, thank you for the information. I will check it all out.
     
    To the op, if you had it do over you probably would have said something to the effect of " We would be willing to pay a reasonable fee" or " We will offer the owner something for his courtesy and consideration if he does not have a fee already set" I'm sure you did not intend for it to sound the way some took it, but honestly, you wouldn't even "throw" your dog a bone, you would give it to him. A lot of times it's not what it is...it's what it sounds like it is.
     
    To the op, if you had it do over you probably would have said something to the effect of " We would be willing to pay a reasonable fee" or " We will offer the owner something for his courtesy and consideration if he does not have a fee already set" I'm sure you did not intend for it to sound the way some took it, but honestly, you wouldn't even "throw" your dog a bone, you would give it to him. A lot of times it's not what it is...it's what it sounds like it is.

    I can agree to that, and I probably would have changed it to make it more clear if some people wouldn't have jumped straight to wild conclusions, name calling and telling someone to stay on 'their side of the mississippi'. Rubbed me wrong at the time.
     
    loudandproud maybe you should have rephrased your original comment to something along the lines of "free prairie dog extermination by responsible and respectful hunters". I'm sure there are still plenty of guys who would be willing to accept that and anyone of them who did would surely be grateful of the $500 you offered for their cooperation. Just keep asking around there are still good reasonable people everywhere it just looks like you're going to have to weed through the men who are "worth tens of millions" but still wants to charge a high premium from someone just wanting to have fun doing something that would essentially be a favor to the rancher. And if anyone thinks a favor is not what the OP would be doing reread these quotes from his original comment "Does any one in that area know of anyone that need some varmint control " "If you have land you wouldn't mind being hunting, or know anyone, please PM me." It's clear he is not asking for a free guided hunt but simply for access to ranchers land who need help with pest-control. For that I don't think that any amount of money would be unreasonable or disrespectful. Especially for a hunt like this which serves no benefit such as meat or anything like a deer or elk Hunt would to the hunter. It's purely for enjoyment. Whereas the rancher has economical benefits from the hunt from the prairie dogs that damage his land and livestock being killed. It's sad that some people act this way. I understand if you just simply don't want people in your land, there's nothing wrong with that. But don't shit on someone's thread thats just tryin to get out and hunt with a few friends for a day or two without having $2500 between the group doing a guided hunt. But then again I'm just a grease monkey from OH what do I know... Hell that probably puts me below the PA gas station attendant that you obviously look so far down upon. If everyone out there was like you ,which I know their not, I would gladly stay on my side of the river

    But to the op congrats on planning this trip and good luck I'm sure if you get in with the right people it will be a great time. I hope someday to get a chance to do the same. Don't forget to get some pics while your out there and post em up so all of us on here can enjoy the trip too.
    Best of luck.
     
    99% of ranchers in my country you ask to shoot them would only require that you kill a bunch of the fuckers. it really isn't that big of deal drive up knock on the door and ask to go hunting either they say yes or no.