IMR powder

[Little gator]

today on when "Threads go bad"....

A newbie reloader asks about IMR powder and it turns into powder manufacturer history lesson and a pissing match over using tacticool terminology.

can a countersniper scope reference be next?

tune in tomorrow to find out....

1st and foremost, counter sniper scope. Wtf dose that even mean? As history has shown the "counter" to a sniper is....wait for it..........ANOTHER GOD DAMN SNIPER! So really a counter sniper scope would be a sniper scope. It's probably the same jack off that came up with "assault weapon"

Thanks a lot for all the info. I don't mind the history so much I'd rather too much info than not enough. Being a FNG and all

 

[RStewart]

1st and foremost, counter sniper scope. Wtf dose that even mean? As history has shown the "counter" to a sniper is....wait for it..........ANOTHER GOD DAMN SNIPER! So really a counter sniper scope would be a sniper scope. It's probably the same jack off that came up with "assault weapon"

Thanks a lot for all the info. I don't mind the history so much I'd rather too much info than not enough. Being a FNG and all

Counter Sniper Optics

 

[goodgorilla]

So when two sniper scopes are pointing at each other, they become counter sniper scopes? What if you beat a sniper to death with the scope? Or what about poisoned mouthwash?

 

[Little gator]

Erika! I've found IMR 4046! And I cleaned em out so I got 2 lbs lol

 

[Steve1]

IMR powders have been the only powder I've used for going on fifty years. I am an old fart, but started reloading when I was about 13. As long as I didn't blow up our farm house, my Dad left me alone. Got an RCBS standard press for Christmas that year. I recently shot a four shot 1/4 inch, four shot group, at 100 yds a few weeks ago with one of my 270's. I was using IMR 4831. I did buy some Varget powder recently for 308 but haven't tried it yet.....Maybe ignorance is bliss, but until I learn different I'm going to keep buying IMR powder.....

 

[SPECR]

FYI...

Powder Valley has IMR 4064 in stock now.

 

[LuckyScott]

I use IMR 4064 for my 7mm Rem Mag with good results.

 

[Graham]

IMR powder

I use IMR 4064 for my 7mm Rem Mag with good results.

What do you mean by 'good' results?

As opposed to 'bad' results?!

 

[LuckyScott]

"What do you mean by 'good' results?

As opposed to 'bad' results?!"


Well, Good accuracy and good groups. It seems consistent, and has never caused a problem.

I can not say it is the "most" accurate or consistent, but works well for me.

 

[Clark]

May 1997 issue of Precision Shooting has an ad for Krieger Barrels, Inc. that showed an actual-size copy of a 20-shot group shot at 800 yards by Bart Bobbitt with his Krieger Barrelled PALMA rifle." Now this group has a .942" mean radius, with an extreme spread of 3.325".

In 1997 on the rec.guns forum on usenet where Bart contributed, we asked him how he did it.

I used a .308 Win. with Sierra's 155-gr. Palma bullet with 45.3gr. of IMR4895 and RWS Primers in full-length sized WCC60 match cases. Had a 20X scope on the English Paramount action and shot prone with a bag under my front hand to steady the rifle. It was about 6AM in dead-calm wind conditions.

Bart is still around and still using IMR powders.
Notice the point of impact rise as his barrel got warm.

 

[Humdawg]

I have used IMR 4064,very similar to Varget,loading 175 smk, and 178 hornady, 7.62x51, It flies good out to 1000 yrds, 26" bartlen barrel,11.25 twist, .299 tight bore.
44.6 grains Varget on the 175 smks, and 44.1 grains IMR 4064 on the hornady 178, both bthp

 

[MeanDoggy41]

I've used IMR 4064 exclusively in all of my 308 rifles for years and have never had any issues with it. I use IMR 7828 in my 338 LM and it really likes the stuff. IMR is a great powder to use. Oh there are powder snobs out there that will boast about this powder or that powder being the best, but it all comes down to what your particle firearm likes, and it will let you know. I use a few different powders in my firearms when I reload, so I can't say that I have a particular choice for any one powder as they all work very well for my needs.

 

[bruddah]

The guy is asking for powder opinions for heavier .223 bullets (pills) whatever you want to call them.

For me, Varget and 8208 XBR have given consistent sub MOA and even sub 1/2 MOA groups when I've done my part.

 

[fullretard]

IMR 4198 with 52/53 SMK I find to be exceptionally accurate. I just think it is a pain in the butt as it is an extruded stick powder.

I have tested the below and found it to be more accurate than me.

Quote from Ed Harris, I have found this basic article to be a fountain of good loads. (Ed's Red) fame....

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Best all-around accurate load I have found, regardless of rifle type or
barrel twist is to use the Sierra 52-gr. or 53-gr. benchrest bullets
and 22 grs. of H4198 or IMR4198; or alternately 23.5 grs. of H322, and
anybody's match primer, in whatever brass you have, but sorted by make
or arsenal and year. This is not a high velocity load, about 2950 fps
in the AR-15, but HIGHLY accurate. Shoots well in 7" twist or 12" twist
barrels. This load was recommended to me by Wally Hart when I started
shooting benchrest and I have concluded that if a .223 rifle will not
group with this load, it will not group with ANYTHING! In a full
blown benchrest rifle, taking GI cases assembled on a Dillon loader,
with no benchrest tricks whatever, the stuff averaged 1.39" for
twenty-five consecutive 10-shot groups at 200 meters fired the same
day, running a round-robin on five different makes of primers. Primer
make made no difference either! Likes CCI450 and Federal 205 best, but
Winchester WSR is also very good if priced compettively. DO NOT exceed
this charge with 4198, as this is a fairly fast burning powder for this
case. As for the H322, this surplus powder varies from batch to batch,
and while the 23.5 gr. charge suggested to me was a mild load with the
lot I used, others may run faster, so please be careful.

 

[bruddah]

IMR 4198 with 52/53 SMK I find to be exceptionally accurate. I just think it is a pain in the butt as it is an extruded stick powder.

I have tested the below and found it to be more accurate than me.

Quote from Ed Harris, I have found this basic article to be a fountain of good loads. (Ed's Red) fame....

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Best all-around accurate load I have found, regardless of rifle type or
barrel twist is to use the Sierra 52-gr. or 53-gr. benchrest bullets
and 22 grs. of H4198 or IMR4198; or alternately 23.5 grs. of H322, and
anybody's match primer, in whatever brass you have, but sorted by make
or arsenal and year. This is not a high velocity load, about 2950 fps
in the AR-15, but HIGHLY accurate. Shoots well in 7" twist or 12" twist
barrels. This load was recommended to me by Wally Hart when I started
shooting benchrest and I have concluded that if a .223 rifle will not
group with this load, it will not group with ANYTHING! In a full
blown benchrest rifle, taking GI cases assembled on a Dillon loader,
with no benchrest tricks whatever, the stuff averaged 1.39" for
twenty-five consecutive 10-shot groups at 200 meters fired the same
day, running a round-robin on five different makes of primers. Primer
make made no difference either! Likes CCI450 and Federal 205 best, but
Winchester WSR is also very good if priced compettively. DO NOT exceed
this charge with 4198, as this is a fairly fast burning powder for this
case. As for the H322, this surplus powder varies from batch to batch,
and while the 23.5 gr. charge suggested to me was a mild load with the
lot I used, others may run faster, so please be careful.

I'm confused. Primer made no difference, yet it likes CCI450 and Federal 205 the best?
How's that possible if primer makes no difference?

 

[FN in MT]

IMR= Improved Military Rifle

Just sayin.....

 

[Greg Langelius *]

These days, I'm trying to reduce the brands of powder I keep onhand. I'm closing in on just IMR-4198, Varget, H-4350, and H-4831SC. (Stupid me, I forgot IMR-4064.)

Greg

 

[Xcount]

May 1997 issue of Precision Shooting has an ad for Krieger Barrels, Inc. that showed an actual-size copy of a 20-shot group shot at 800 yards by Bart Bobbitt with his Krieger Barrelled PALMA rifle." Now this group has a .942" mean radius, with an extreme spread of 3.325".

In 1997 on the rec.guns forum on usenet where Bart contributed, we asked him how he did it.


Bart is still around and still using IMR powders.
Notice the point of impact rise as his barrel got warm.

What's interesting about Bart and this group is that he says IMR4064 has always been more accurate. They used IMR4895 for the 1992 Palma ammo because they made the ammo on a Dillon and 4985 metered better.