I need to decide, purchase a phone to carry Shooter. Perhaps upgrade to other Apps or functions in the future.
I have a Flip phone. I have no other experience and want simple.
I have a Flip phone. I have no other experience and want simple.
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You are pretty much asking Chevy vs Ford to be honest. Both have their advantages and both have their disadvantages.
Ipod
pros-
-One company (Apple) does pretty much everything for it outside of the apps. So you know it will work more or less flawlessly
-Tons of apps
-Tons of accessories
-High Resale value if/when you upgrade
Cons-
-Stuck with whatever apple gives you (ie only one size, one camera size, ect)
-High resale value (if looking to pick up a used one)
Android
Pros-
-Can find a phone to fit exactly what you want. Huge screen? Small Screen? Awesome Camera? theres a phone thatll fit what you want.
-Tons of apps
-Ability to be rooted (though probably not a feature the OP cares about
-Accessory wise there are a bunch but some arent as good as apple (like hooking up to a car stereo)
-Apps let you make your phone look and feel exactly the way you want it to (OS wise)
Cons -
-Outside of the flagship phones if you pick a cheaper one you might not find the support for it if you have an issue. Same with finding accessories for it. if you get a flagship phone (like the Galaxy S4) you wont have any issue with support or accessories.
-They dont always get updated to the latest OS provided by google. Really depends on the phone. Even the flagship models only seem to have a 2 year update span. BUT you can root them and updated them yourself if so desired
Really for just simple....either will work just fine. If you have a kindle or other devices that use the small USB cables to charge already than a Android might be nice since itll share the same chargers.
If you are just wanting something to use Shooter on you could also look into just getting a tablet. You can pick up Android based ones for under 200 bucks that will work just fine for that. Be a bigger screen too!
Ipod
pros-
-One company (Apple) does pretty much everything for it outside of the apps. So you know it will work more or less flawlessly
-Tons of apps
-Tons of accessories
-High Resale value if/when you upgrade
Cons-
-Stuck with whatever apple gives you (ie only one size, one camera size, ect)
-High resale value (if looking to pick up a used one)
Android
Pros-
-Can find a phone to fit exactly what you want. Huge screen? Small Screen? Awesome Camera? theres a phone thatll fit what you want.
-Tons of apps
-Ability to be rooted (though probably not a feature the OP cares about
-Accessory wise there are a bunch but some arent as good as apple (like hooking up to a car stereo)
-Apps let you make your phone look and feel exactly the way you want it to (OS wise)
Cons -
-Outside of the flagship phones if you pick a cheaper one you might not find the support for it if you have an issue. Same with finding accessories for it. if you get a flagship phone (like the Galaxy S4) you wont have any issue with support or accessories.
-They dont always get updated to the latest OS provided by google. Really depends on the phone. Even the flagship models only seem to have a 2 year update span. BUT you can root them and updated them yourself if so desired
Really for just simple....either will work just fine. If you have a kindle or other devices that use the small USB cables to charge already than a Android might be nice since itll share the same chargers.
If you are just wanting something to use Shooter on you could also look into just getting a tablet. You can pick up Android based ones for under 200 bucks that will work just fine for that. Be a bigger screen too!
Iphone Vs Android is an interesting debate.
I carry both...And have a Blackphone on order.
I use my Android for business...Have a Galaxy Note 3 with the pen...As a work tool it's priceless. - As a personal phone, it's a failure.
My Iphone I use significantly more...I really enjoy the Iphone. As a work phone, it's meh. It doesn't offer the same level of encryption as the Galaxy and flash is always an issue...However, that being said, I still prefer it to the Galaxy due to it's ease of use.
Ballistics AE with Litz's profiles are absolutely dead nuts on.
Quite frankly, my Grandmother learned how to use an Iphone without issue so, I'd say get an Iphone 5c.
It's a no frills Iphone with some decent space...Fits your requirements and is cheap.
I carry both...And have a Blackphone on order.
I use my Android for business...Have a Galaxy Note 3 with the pen...As a work tool it's priceless. - As a personal phone, it's a failure.
My Iphone I use significantly more...I really enjoy the Iphone. As a work phone, it's meh. It doesn't offer the same level of encryption as the Galaxy and flash is always an issue...However, that being said, I still prefer it to the Galaxy due to it's ease of use.
Ballistics AE with Litz's profiles are absolutely dead nuts on.
Quite frankly, my Grandmother learned how to use an Iphone without issue so, I'd say get an Iphone 5c.
It's a no frills Iphone with some decent space...Fits your requirements and is cheap.
I have an Iphone and the Casio GZ one. Both fill different uses, but I find myself leaning more towards the Iphone as time progresses. The ease of use, availability of apps, and the support. Over the last 4 years I had constant problems with the android systems, they just did not seem to hold up as well, and I was constantly having glitches with them. I have my shooting apps on both. I have recently started using my Kindle with Shooter app on it when at the ranges. The HDX has forward facing camera, and been using it with my apps to video shooting sessions. I am still a little out on it, and over the next few months will decide, but so far the size, ease of use has been beneficial. The only drawback is available wifi, but I have all capabilities remotely I have with my laptop, and it is large enough my old eyes and hands love it.
Apple tends to run a lot more smoothly and there are lots of third party aftermarket accessories for them, but with Android, you get a better variety of devices. I went with Android because I could get a ruggedized / waterproof phone. I will also add that one of the biggest pro's of an Android is that you can wirelessly tether your laptop to your phone... Basically using your phone's broadband Internet connection for free. iPhone makes you pay for the tethering capability. You do have to root your phone to use the wireless tether app.
The new IOS for Apple doesn't require a fee to tether for wifi. At least not with Verizon. I can say that of the 11 guys on my shift, 4 of them have gone from Android to iPhone. None have gone the other way.
My thoughts are that if you are a tech guy that wants to expand the capabilities of what you can do with a phone, go Droid. If you just want a user friendly phone that just plain works, go iPhone.
I am sending this from my iPhone.
My thoughts are that if you are a tech guy that wants to expand the capabilities of what you can do with a phone, go Droid. If you just want a user friendly phone that just plain works, go iPhone.
I am sending this from my iPhone.
I personally prefer android. But one factor to consider... iphones tend to have much better battery life than android phones. The upside is, with android phones you can have more than one battery and swap them out. With iphones, the battery is integrated.
Android: faster, cheaper, more capabilities. I have a Samsung Gallaxy Note II, and I love it. I would look at a Gallaxy S3 or S4 if I were you, the S5 is coming in April, so you should be able to get one cheap.
As far as Apple being flawless, what happened with their last major update...? LMAO!
As far as Apple being flawless, what happened with their last major update...? LMAO!
I prefer Android, largely because of the analytical apps. I use several apps in my work and they run better, or are not even available on the Iphone. I like the idea of Chromecast and several networks are developing for it. Shooter and Strelock run perfect on mine. To me, the stand alone GPS worked better in my Android phone when i compared it to the Iphone in the wilderness.
If all I wanted it for was a ballistics app, I would go with a tablet.
If all I wanted it for was a ballistics app, I would go with a tablet.
+1 for the iPhone - Easy to use, good support for apps and Ballistic AE has been right on the money for all my loads.
if all you want is to get a phone to carry a ballistic app I say look first at the app you're more inclined, then get a used phone and don't connect it to a service provider. Both iPhone and Android interfaces are simple and easy to learn (iPhone probably a bit more). Just remember that if you want to port your apps to other devices (aka tablets) you'll have more options with Android. I myself went WP8 (kind of digging the interconnection with my PC/tablet/xbox) and now use my old GS2 as my ballistic calculator (can still update my apps through wifi).
Great stuff from all. Thank you.
I did some retail 'buying' today and see a new Galaxy something with water resistance and a Kyocera torque as affordable and nifty, I guess.
No service, very interesting. I need service though to get weather data. Would be tits up to avoid a contract.
I did some retail 'buying' today and see a new Galaxy something with water resistance and a Kyocera torque as affordable and nifty, I guess.
No service, very interesting. I need service though to get weather data. Would be tits up to avoid a contract.
may be cheaper long term to get a Kestrel than signing your soul.. I mean your phone to a service provider 
. I believe some providers are giving non-contract services but I'm not sure if it's specific to certain phone models (you know how there's always a catch).
. I believe some providers are giving non-contract services but I'm not sure if it's specific to certain phone models (you know how there's always a catch).Otero, I am not needing special 80+ dollar a month phone service as I have never needed it. I did like your suggestion to have a phone and use it as a dedicated tool without service. I did not know that was possible.
Weather is of course essential. Weather service info should be sufficient. Live linked unit would be necessary.
Question now as I see it is that service reliable, Is Kestral in hand better service.
Live might have the best option. I do need a phone.. Actually, my flip phone is convenient for my usage.
ETA; Not all locations provide service.
The Kestral and a Android sounds like the ticket.
No special cover or box makes the Torque appealing.
Weather is of course essential. Weather service info should be sufficient. Live linked unit would be necessary.
Question now as I see it is that service reliable, Is Kestral in hand better service.
Live might have the best option. I do need a phone.. Actually, my flip phone is convenient for my usage.
ETA; Not all locations provide service.
The Kestral and a Android sounds like the ticket.
No special cover or box makes the Torque appealing.
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Man tell me about it. I just changed my service plan not long ago and it's costing me a fortune. Issue with weather stations is that they may be substantially far from your location thus not able to provide acurate data. I've read good reviews on the weatherhawk brand of anemometer (it's less expensive than kestrel). I think there was a review here on SH.
I recently updated to a smart phone and went with an iPhone. The main reason that I went with it over an Android is the FLIR One attatchment is going to be available for the iPhone first and I'm a impatient guy.
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