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16-18" bolt action killin rigs: show em.

I have a beautiful 233 that SAC built for me for my FTR dream career--that has not materialized. Rifle has literally 10 rounds on it. First ten rounds went into a single .228 hole center to center. Since I am not going to be getting to that FTR game anytime soon now I am thinking of getting it chopped into a suppressor host and truck prairie dogging gun.

Any reason not to??? What say you guys?
 
I have a beautiful 233 that SAC built for me for my FTR dream career--that has not materialized. Rifle has literally 10 rounds on it. First ten rounds went into a single .228 hole center to center. Since I am not going to be getting to that FTR game anytime soon now I am thinking of getting it chopped into a suppressor host and truck prairie dogging gun.

Any reason not to??? What say you guys?

No reason not to. Great with the heavies and a fast twist. I run one as my prairie dog, rock dog - all around gun. Cheap to shoot a lot!!
 
I have a beautiful 233 that SAC built for me for my FTR dream career--that has not materialized. Rifle has literally 10 rounds on it. First ten rounds went into a single .228 hole center to center. Since I am not going to be getting to that FTR game anytime soon now I am thinking of getting it chopped into a suppressor host and truck prairie dogging gun.

Any reason not to??? What say you guys?

Sounds good sir! If you actually really want to win in F-TR youre gonna need to run .308 anyhow. Top dogs are running like 200+gr bullets out of 30"+ barrels... .223 will have a tough time past 600yd or so against setups like that...
 
My SRS A1 Covert with .223 SAC conversion. OAL of 27.25" with the 16.25" .223 barrel but I also have 18" & 26" barrels in 300WM for large game. Short rifle with bright, wide FOV optic for thick bush...now I just need some bush!

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My SRS A1 Covert with .223 SAC conversion. OAL of 27.25" with the 16.25" .223 barrel but I also have 18" & 26" barrels in 300WM for large game. Short rifle with bright, wide FOV optic for thick bush...now I just need some bush!

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I'll be honest that I never caught the DTA bug, thankfully, but that is a slick little bastard right there. Love the Elcan on it.
 
I am thinking I need a 16 inch 223 for shits and giggles
 
Hey ole reliable some info on your rifles would be nice and are you shooting through those yellow covers on your muzzle?
 
Well there's certainly a theme. Did you get a deal at Harbor Freight on blue spray paint and colored electrical tape?
 
Here is my T3 sporter in 6.5x55

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Well there's certainly a theme. Did you get a deal at Harbor Freight on blue spray paint and colored electrical tape?

Ole reliable is "familiar". He's been around. Utility is key in most instances. Safe queens need not apply.

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And just like that ole reliable is gone? I'm not seeing his pics.
 
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Ole reliable is "familiar". He's been around. Utility is key in most instances. Safe queens need not apply.

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And just like that ole reliable is gone? I'm not seeing his pics.

Yeah, didn't "recognize" him until after I posted. His barrel break in video from several years ago still cracks me up
 
My SRS A1 Covert with .223 SAC conversion. OAL of 27.25" with the 16.25" .223 barrel but I also have 18" & 26" barrels in 300WM for large game. Short rifle with bright, wide FOV optic for thick bush...now I just need some bush!

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Which elcan is that? I've never seen anyone run one on a DTA before. Does it have enough magnification for longer ranges if you want to stretch out?


Covert is as Covert does.

Plenty of good feedback on the scout site.
 
Here's another 22-250 I built at the same time as mine. 19" barrel but I'll call it a shorty.
 

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Hell here is the only pic I have of all three. Mine is the 18" krg, the other 2 are in hs thumbhole stocks. All k&p barrels, trued actions and jewel triggers.

 

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This is the old Rem700 SPS I had that was cut down to a 16 inch barrel (top). Honestly, not too comfortable to shoot with a .308. Ended up selling to finance a custom Surgeon rifle with an 18 inch barrel (bottom) built by Southern Precision Rifles. What a difference those 2 inches make!


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@jonaddis of Area419 is currently chopping my old 6.5 Creed to 16". I'll post up Picts when it comes back.

It'll sport an Arbiter suppressor and rest in a McRees G7.

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Shorty wanna ball.

Black Ops Precision Specter BABR with 16.5" barrel. NF 3-15x F1 Mil-Spec with ARC rings.

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Is that an a3-5 McMillan? I've had an xm3 hardon for a long time and what ya got there looks a lot like that beautiful creation. Very nice gat bro!


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Looks like an HTG/T1. An A3-5 has an A3 front and an A5 rear. The XM-3 sports an A1-3. Its basically a slightly bulkier HTG. The A1-3 can be referred to as an A7, though this is rarely the case. On MCM's website, its called an A1-3.
 
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Which elcan is that? I've never seen anyone run one on a DTA before. Does it have enough magnification for longer ranges if you want to stretch out?

The optic in the 1st pic is a Specter DR 1x/4x. That particular setup is for hunting in places where you only see sky when you breakout onto the shore of a lake. About 3 decades ago I used to pull off my optic and just hunt with irons because sometimes even a 3-9x was too much in the woods. Its a bright optic with a wide FOV and @ 1x its magical. If I want to go long I've got a Premier 5-25x that for low light hunting is very bright but other than looking over a bog during moose season doesn't have much use in the woods.

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Looks like an HTG/T1. An A3-5 has an A3 front and an A5 rear. The XM-3 sports an A1-3. Its basically a slightly bulkier HTG. The A1-3 can only be referred to as an A7, though this is rarely the case. On MCM's website, its called an A1-3.

Oops, your right. I totally meant 1-3, not 3-5.


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SRS Covert with a Knights Armament AN-PVS 30.
16" BARREL in .308 caliber
AWC supressor 37" overall system length.
IOR Valdada RECON 4x-28x 40mm main tube
Atlas tripod
Monfrotto tripod, magnesium ball head and HOG saddle.
Steiner SPIR (IR Illuminated)


 

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The optic in the 1st pic is a Specter DR 1x/4x. That particular setup is for hunting in places where you only see sky when you breakout onto the shore of a lake. About 3 decades ago I used to pull off my optic and just hunt with irons because sometimes even a 3-9x was too much in the woods. Its a bright optic with a wide FOV and @ 1x its magical. If I want to go long I've got a Premier 5-25x that for low light hunting is very bright but other than looking over a bog during moose season doesn't have much use in the woods.

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Hey bud, a guy just started a thread in Rifle Scopes asking for input on the Specter. Yours is one of the few I recall seeing recently if you wanted to offer some advice:

https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...-specter-dr-1-4-any-buyers-regret#post6322428
 
I really dig this thread, right up my alley. :) Here are mine... top is a 16.1" RARRC in .300 Blackout with 12" LOP (with a hard plastic butt plate I made myself), tuned trigger, Talley lightweight ringmounts, Leupold 2-7x Ultralight, Hornady Bolt Ball, and a basic web sling. It weighs 6.6lbs as pictured with 5 rounds in it and is just shy of 33" OAL so it makes for a great woods gun and < 300 yard brush hunting rifle. Bottom is a 16.5" SPS Tactical .308 budget precision / hunting hybrid build with Magpul stock, bottom metal, cheek riser, bipod mount, & sling, hand-me-down Burris glass from another rifle, DNZ one-piece mount, and a crappy trigger and brake that will both soon be replaced.


How do you like the Ruger? I've been toying with the idea of buying that same Ruger. For me the 300 blackout is a great deer cartridge. I rarely shoot over 200 yards with all the rolling hills in my area. Plus, I figure my boys will be able to fit behind it in the next year or two (they're 6).
 
My SRS A1 Covert with .223 SAC conversion. OAL of 27.25" with the 16.25" .223 barrel but I also have 18" & 26" barrels in 300WM for large game. Short rifle with bright, wide FOV optic for thick bush...now I just need some bush!

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any pics of the other side of rifle? im curious if its the new gen Elcan.
 
18" 6.5 Creedmoor
LRI BUILT
Atlas Tactical action
Manners EH1 Stock with custom molded in colors.
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How do you like the Ruger? I've been toying with the idea of buying that same Ruger. For me the 300 blackout is a great deer cartridge. I rarely shoot over 200 yards with all the rolling hills in my area. Plus, I figure my boys will be able to fit behind it in the next year or two (they're 6).
I like the American Ranch Compact a lot, not much I can say bad about it for such a low-dollar rig. It's about 6-1/2lbs loaded and I think the whole thing as it sits - optics and all - cost around $650. Hard to find much fault with it given that... but Ruger discontinued this short LOP "compact" version last year... I believe they are all 13.5" or 13.75" LOP from the factory now. That may impact your decision if this is mainly for a youth-friendly gun.

I built mine to replace a .30-30 Marlin brush gun, so I needed to keep it light and compact. After comparing a bunch of different platforms including putting together a semi-custom Howa or a CZ mini-action, I just bought this to keep it cheap and simple. It turned out to be a great choice - streamlined, handy, decent trigger, good capacity, and vastly improved optics mounting capability vs. the lever action I was using. Not something to feel bad about beating through underbrush with, or loaning to a buddy when his hunting rig shits the bed. Accuracy is more than acceptable for a hunting rifle... mine shot a little under 1 MOA with factory Barnes 110gr hunting ammo using my backpack as a rest during sight-in. The factory stock sucks and is the only thing I can really say bad about it, but I run mine in the interest of keeping weight to a minimum. It kicks mildly for a featherweight .30 cal rifle with no recoil pad, even with full power hunting loads. The bolt throw is quick and feeding is smooth and reliable from the rotary mags.
 
Mcameron I love the way that 700 looks with a 16 inch tube!
 
I like the American Ranch Compact a lot.

Thank you very much for the feedback. Really appreciate it. I suspected the stock was crappy, but I'm going into it knowing that. I'm not sure what I can upgrade it to? I suppose a bedded Boyds stock would be an improvement over the stock.....stock. Anyway, thanks again for the feedback.

 
Thank you very much for the feedback. Really appreciate it. I suspected the stock was crappy, but I'm going into it knowing that. I'm not sure what I can upgrade it to? I suppose a bedded Boyds stock would be an improvement over the stock.....stock. Anyway, thanks again for the feedback.

No problem! Boyd's laminates and MDT's full chassis systems are the only replacements I'm aware of for them. The factory stock feels and sounds cheap, has a low comb, and the forend flexes with little effort, BUT it is aluminum pillar bedded and has a flush DBM, so for a hunting rig most of that is not the end of the world. A cheap Kydex cheek riser would fix the comb height issue, and the movement in the forend isn't detrimental for minute-of-deer-lung accuracy.
 
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I posted up my 18" Rem 700 several pages ago, but in order to keep the thread moving I'll throw this one in. It's a bit long at 20" to meet the criteria for the topic. However, we got 2-3 pages of rifles that had basically nothing to do with anything posted up by our buddy OldReliable, so here goes:

Surgeon Action in 308, built by GAP. Sitting of course in an XLR with a Mk8 on it in that pic, but undecided if it'll stay there. As I said, it's a 20" barrel, but its in keeping with the short theme.
 
Hey Bogey do you like that mk8?

I do, the glass is unlike anything else I've seen from Leopold and I have 4 of their scopes. It obviously has the B turrets, and I've heard the C versions are better. That one has a H58, which compared to my H59s seems thick.

I bought it while the BEAST was delayed on its release. With some of the newer offerings like the F1 ATACR and GenII Razor I'm not sure where I'd put the Mk8 in today's market, but I'll say that IMHO Leupold really built one helluva scope with the Mk8. Killswitch seemed to feel the same way when he did his scope testing.
 
Thanks Bogey good info to know

No problem. The market has just changed a lot since the Mk8 was introduced. It's price point, even now, puts it in S&B territory. With the prices on Vortex and NF these days, it takes a lot more consideration to decide what extra benefits you're getting once you're north of $3k.
 
This is just the basecoat I am still deciding on the full paint job I want. 16" R700 AAC SD with TBAC 30PSS in an xlr element chassis.

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So what's everyone's favorite caliber for a shorty build?