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Rifle Scopes Scope recommatation

Lahll

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I'm looking at either the Night Force 20X or 32x for out to 1000 yds with Remington 700 "tactical" shooting In 308, 178 grain bullets.
Live in the Tucson area where its hot in the summer (but shooting in the winter when is closer to 70 degrees.
Your opinions plz.
 
The budget, night force 20x comes in at $1100 dollars. the 32X $2300. Both are "in budget". Most of the shooting at the local range is at 500 meters and bench because is a bit of a hassle to get on the 1000. The kind of shooting "desired "is tactical (prone, seated, standing, whatever the situation requires). the 20x is a good deal cheaper but I'm wondering if it will leave the target to small to be practical.
 
Nightforce doesnt make a plain 20x and they dont make a plain 32x. Give us some more info on what exactly it is that youre looking at. They have an SHV 5-20 and an NXS 8-32 and a Benchrest 8-32. All three of those are vastly different optics from one another.

But 20x will get you to 1k yards just fine. Hell, a 10x will get you there.
 
So the SHV 5-20 and the NXS are both second focal plane scopes. That means that the reticle will stay the same size regardless of what power you have it on. That means that the reticle is behind the magnifying part of the scope and the subtensions (the dashes on the crosshairs) will change their value depending on where you are located in the zoom range. Their value will scale with the change in image. Example: the 10 moa dash would be 10 moa at 32 power but at 16x it would actually represent 20moa. 1/2 the power 2x the value. The nightforce scopes with the F1 in the name are front focal plane and the reticles values stay the same as the reticle is located in front of the magnification, it magnifies the reticle the same amount as the image so your subtensions are correct at all magnification values.

In this picture youll notice that for the First focal example that the reticles bottom dot is at the same point on the deer at all magnifications, cross hair centered on its chest the dot is on his hoof. With the second focal the bottom dot goes from way below the deer to up to the his bottom foot, it slides in relation to what you are looking at. [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/theopticzone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/front-focal-plane-vs-second-focal-plane-rifle-scope-reticle.jpg"}[/IMG2]


Now, how does that effect you? If you have time and are capable of minor mental math you wont have any issues with a second focal plane scope. You just have to be cognizant of where you are at in your zoom range. If you shoot at low powers second focal is helpful in that you dont have to squint to see the reticle where as with a front focal it can get awfully small to make out. If you shoot at max magnification it also doesnt matter as youll never have to worry about the lower powers.

Lots of benchresters and paper shooters who shoot at known ranges prefer the second focal plane as they can often be finer crosshairs enabling more precise aim points and they know the distances they are shooting at and thus they know what they need to do.
Steel shooters like the front focal because they can use it on any magnification and what they read on the reticle is what they need to adjust, no mental math or having to worry about compensating for what zoom you are on or at what distance. It you miss by 2 mils according to the reticle you need to dial up 2 mils, end of story. No worrying about distance or zoom.

With that said I doubt you would be let down by either the 5-20 SHV or the 8-32 NXS. But if you are wanting to do the "tactical" scene a front focal plane scope makes a whole lot of sense for the running and gunning PRS stuff this site focuses on. Go over to Accurate Shooter where its F class and Benchrest guys and youll get them telling you to go second focal plane.
 
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Yeah kinda, I had earlier decided on the NXS-32. but saw the SHV 5-20 at half the price, and was wondering if that would do it for me...I worry that 20 power will not provide enough magnification on a target while also worrying about mirage on 32X. I shoot mostly in the winter here as the temps run in the 70s where as in the summer any scope at any power suffers mirage. my Leopold 10x is fine out to 600 meters or so but at 1000 yds just not so.
 
Comparing the SHV and the NXS is a little like apples to oranges.. I would open up to other options, as you can get a lot of glass in your sub-$2300 budget that might fit your needs perfectly. I run two Nightforce scopes and a SWFA on my "loaner" rifle. I like Nightforce, but i have no issue going elsewhere if something else fits the role for a better price.

If you want tactical shooting, you will notice that a lot of people run their mag below 20x when shooting PRS. Don't become a mag whore like I was.
Now if you are punching paper or shooting for tiny groups at 1k, then you might want the extra mag on top which is where the benchrest scopes come in.
 
Thx for the info, Ive 3 of the original SS SWFA scopes and they are ok, I just wanted a bit "better" scope on the newest firearm..(still shopping/gathering opinions)