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Trump orders Sessions to ban bump stocks

Definition of tyranny

plural tyrannies
1 : oppressive power
every form of tyranny over the mind of man —Thomas Jefferson
; especially : oppressive power exerted by government the tyranny of a police state
2 a : a government in which absolute power is vested in a single ruler; especially : one characteristic of an ancient Greek city-state
b : the office, authority, and administration of a tyrant
3 : a rigorous condition imposed by some outside agency or force
living under the tyranny of the clock —Dixon Wecter
4 : an oppressive, harsh, or unjust act : a tyrannical act workers who had suffered tyrannies
 
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Okay, so we are going down this road again. We know some of us love us some bumpstocks, others could give a rats ass. Snopes sez.......... *True* We know this can and will lead to other 'concessions', even unintended. Snopes sez.........*True*. Now taking the stand that bumpstocks cause us more problems than serviceable pleasure, are we willing to go to the mat for a fucking bumpstock? Uhm ya. I am. And I don't need Snopes to say so.

Give up nothing. *NOTHING*
Give up nothing. Ever.
 
"Turn a legal weapon into a machine gun"

I hope that's the language they use in the "ban" because last time I checked bump stocks and the like do not make semi autos full auto.

I am ganna hope this is a careful choice of language much like what the NRA said after vegas. While everyone else was screaming ban them they said "we support REVIEWING these items." Of course everyone flipped out.

To the uniformed this looks like he's calling for a ban of them. But technically unless I'm mistaken they don't turn anything into a "machine gun"

Maybe I'm wrong but that's how I read that at first take.

I read it the same as you. Bump stocks do not turn an AR15 into full auto. I think Trump is smart enough to know that.
 
Next thing you know these protesters will be smoking pot, drawing peace symbols on their jeans and marching on the capital.
Chanting down with the establishment!

Oh shit that was tonights news, thought it was a rerun?
By the way thier parent's were paying fot thier bus ride, shit.
 
I think it’s gonna get a lot worse before it’s gonna get better. How often will a major shooting need to take place before people realize the only way to fight fire is with fire itself. Daily? I hope not...
LEO can’t be everywhere... it’s going to take contributing and armed citizens to fight the evil. Don’t be a sheep. If you want my RIGHTS you’re going to have to pry them from my dead cold fingers
 
I wonder if the hypocrats would support universal background checks and ID for voting what with all the"damage" from "Russian Meddling" and all? If 18 y.o.'s cant drink beer or buy firearms, they're probably too immature to enlist, or more importantly vote, being children and all.
 
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How about making it a felony to prevent teachers from being legally armed, and paying them a bonus for it.
Maybe cash can overturn liberal tendancies?
 
I’ve always wondered.......take away the blanket of security that we the tax payers provide for them and how would they feel about the second amendment? Pat’m on the back, give them CS Tacticals phone number and tell them good luck, your on your own like the rest of us. Of course a phone call to give CS a heads up and get the big stickers out. Those who are silent are known to consent and I voted against McCain and Flake as they are some of if not the worst of the bunch. They are an embarrassment to the state of Arizona and the good folks who live here. Emails from them both touting how they have fought for my second amendment rights and might I see fit to help with a donation makes me want to puke. I agree with Sihr......stick to the laws on the books and make them mean something! I also agree that no ground should be given as so much has already been taken. The old axiom still applies, it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun. How do we apply that to keep our schools and church’s safe? Bullshit bravado aside. Gun opposition is mobilizing are we? I don’t claim to have the answers but there is a lot of brain power in this forum. Saw a billboard on the news tonight that said “kill the NRA”.....really! They are riding this tragedy like a cheap huffy. Frustrated and angry like the rest of you?
 
lol u sed bush
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I keep hearing "We have to do something."

Than I see that crying high schooler whining about Florida legislators having blood on their hands and Im thinking "This is what we are letting decide the exercise of our rights?"

A country of children, incapable of caring for themselves.

What the fuck is "something".

Reason is dead, we now run on emotion.

No one wants to discuss the purpose of the Second Amendment.

No one knows history.

The mic drop is to remind people that the men that made the difference in the Revolution were a few Americans armed with better technology than the regular British soldier, a rifle vs a smooth bore, and the Second amendment realized that the right of self defense only exists if comparable means of defense are readily available. The Supreme Court recognizes "In common use".

Second remind people that after disease the greatest taker of life over the past 100 years has been government - Turkey/Armenia, Soviets/citizens of USSR, Japan/anyone the conquered, Germany/"The other", North Vietnam/non communists, Khmer Rouge/Cambodians, Bosnian Serb/Bosniak, Hutu/Tutsi.....

Wasnt it just a few months ago libs were thankful for the second amendment and their access to arms because Trump is a fascist they need to resist?

Whats the word from the John Brown Gun Club regards this? Are they specifically exempt?
 
Okay, so we are going down this road again. We know some of us love us some bumpstocks, others could give a rats ass. Snopes sez.......... *True* We know this can and will lead to other 'concessions', even unintended. Snopes sez.........*True*. Now taking the stand that bumpstocks cause us more problems than serviceable pleasure, are we willing to go to the mat for a fucking bumpstock? Uhm ya. I am. And I don't need Snopes to say so.

Give up nothing. *NOTHING*

Is the bump stock our tea? We gonna toss them in the harbor?
 
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I think Trump just insured that 5-10% of his voting base will now stay home in 2020.

And up on the Hill, every democrat is fist-bumping each other.

Bingo. Trump just guaranteed he's going to be a one-term president. Just wait and see what the next piece of shit in office will do because "Trump didn't do enough"....I don't care about bumpstocks, but the next "concessions" are going to be mandatory minimum trigger weights and restricted magazine sizes at the federal level, all in the name of feel-good, do-nothing legislation. Trump is trying to doing exactly what Obama did and legislate from the Oval Office. Here's to hoping the Supreme Court steps in.
 
Yes Trump would be better to give everyone a civics lesson....

Its Congress job to make law.

Tell those closest to the people to go back to their districts and find out what they want done.

Than come back and produce law.

As the Founders intended it will be a big circle jerk, nothing will be done and we will have been saved once again by the "long dead white guys".
 
So you guys actually think in 2020 Trump supporters would rather leave these decisions to a Democrat.

Trump is and always will be pro gun. I would bet he is re-elected and in his second term we will get suppressors taken off the NFA.

The bump stock was looking for trouble from the get go. The bump stock helped no one and only added fuel to the anti-gunners.

Anti-gunners make lots of noise in DC. I'll bet most of you just bitch and never actually write your Congressmen and Senators. The Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Oh and I agree the 2A has been mutated. While you live in your 2A perfect world I am stuck having to deal with reality. And reality won't change by bitchin.
 
Hi,

Let us not forget Trumps true stance (Not running for office stance) on firearms. He states it pretty clear in his book "The America We Deserve," in which Trump wrote: "I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun."
This bump stock ban should come as no big surprise.....

I believe that you do AND you also need a letter from LEO requesting a demonstration or sample.

Hi,

No "Love Letter" needed when purchasing those samples from SOT that is not renewing their license.

Sincerely,
Theis
 
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So you guys actually think in 2020 Trump supporters would rather leave these decisions to a Democrat.

Trump is and always will be pro gun. I would bet he is re-elected and in his second term we will get suppressors taken off the NFA.
His actions speak otherwise......so far he has done nothing for gun rights......im not going to revote for someone in HOPES that theyll do something......maybe if he takes suppressors of the NFA THIS term ill consider supporting him in 2020

The bump stock was looking for trouble from the get go. The bump stock helped no one and only added fuel to the anti-gunners.
who gives a fuck about the anti gunners?......they always will be anti gun....they dont need any more fuel, even without bump stocks they would be as rabid as they are now.....im sure as fuck not going to ask permission from the DEMS on what gun accessories we can and cannot make in the future.

"oh ar15s are trouble from the get go.....dont want to fuel the antis"
"oh .50bmgs were trouble from the get go....dont want to fuel the antis"
"oh 75round mags were trouble from the get go....dont want to fuel the antis"
"oh precision "sniper rifles" were trouble from the get go.....dont want to fuel the antis"
"oh handguns were trouble from the get go...dont want to fuel the antis"
"oh semi autos were trouble from the get go....dont want to fuel the antis"
"oh metalic cartridges were trouble from the get go....dont want to fuel the antis"
"oh guns were trouble from the get go..............................................................................................................dont want to fuel the antis.............................."

Anti-gunners make lots of noise in DC. I'll bet most of you just bitch and never actually write your Congressmen and Senators. The Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Oh and I agree the 2A has been mutated. While you live in your 2A perfect world I am stuck having to deal with reality. And reality won't change by bitchin.

i agree, gun owners are fucking lazy.... "oh it doesnt affect my hunting rifle so i dont care"........"oh bump stocks are stupid i dont care".......we need to see any attack on any of us as an attack on all of us.
 
Is the bump stock our tea? We gonna toss them in the harbor?

Nope. I'm unable 'and' unwilling to do that. I'm certain I'm not alone thinking it's really not about the stock, in my view, as much as it is about the concession 'and' being a matter of principle. We're being sold out. I'm not good with that. ANY concession IMHO is ludicrous. Period.
Give Up Nothing ! It won't stop with these damn things. They want every damn thing they can grab and/or regulate us to death with.
 
Nope. I'm unable 'and' unwilling to do that. I'm certain I'm not alone thinking it's really not about the stock, in my view, as much as it is about the concession 'and' being a matter of principle. We're being sold out. I'm not good with that. ANY concession IMHO is ludicrous. Period.
Give Up Nothing ! It won't stop with these damn things. They want every damn thing they can grab and/or regulate us to death with.

So it is our tea, then? I mean, I don't like that shit, either..

Back in the day when folks were super pissed that the crown was digging deeper into their pockets, they sent a big middle finger straight across the pond by dumping a shitload of tea in the Boston harbor.

Not sure what the modern equivalent of that would be, re: bump stocks, but yeah... We should try to come up with ideas.
 
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So it is our tea, then? I mean, I don't like that shit, either..

Back in the day when folks were super pissed that the crown was digging deeper into their pockets, they sent a big middle finger straight across the pond by dumping a shitload of tea in the Boston harbor.

Not sure what the modern equivalent of that would be, re: bump stocks, but yeah... We should try to come up with ideas.

I really wish I had a cognitive response other than yes, I'm afraid it is our Tea at this point and I admit to having no idea how we truly fix this.
 
MA banned bump stocks Feb 2, 2018 with confiscatory language, they must be turned in, cant be sold (Unconstitutional?).

One report stated two had been turned in.
 
And perfectly sane people will have been declared insane when they resist the confiscation of semiautomatic firearms.

It's pretty easy to change the narrative. Just look at Southern history turning into a mass of inexplicably empty plinths.
 
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MA banned bump stocks Feb 2, 2018 with confiscatory language, they must be turned in, cant be sold (Unconstitutional?).

One report stated two had been turned in.


Today it is reported a grand total of 4, four, bump stocks have been turned into local police in Massachusetts..

Mcameron and 3 others I'm guessing.
 
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Honestly never was privy to the damn things.....they looked a bit janky to be honest.....but rest assured if i did have one, i would have turned it in as demanded by our overloards :cautious:
 
Ya'll will either 'let this pass, too', or ya'll will rally around and stop this from snowballing. It will only grow, and get worse, if it is allowed to start.

This is tantamount to banning all the red paint in the country, because statistically, it is the red colored cars that get caught speeding the most. Therefore, if you remove the color red, there will be no more speeding.

All Ya'll gotta stop this type of thinking. Across the board.
 
Whatever happened to give and take, give the libs a bump stock ban in exchange for removing suppressors from the NFA. If Trump can appoint enough pro 2a judges (strict constitutionalists) it won’t matter what the dipshits in the house and senate pass.
 
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Whatever happened to give and take, give the libs a bump stock ban in exchange for removing suppressors from the NFA. If Trump can appoint enough pro 2a judges (strict constitutionalists) it won’t matter what the dipshits in the house and senate pass.

I think there's even Congressmen that still value their positions to risk them by passing anti-gun legislation. That's why the wet-paper-bag-in-chief, like his predecessor, is circumventing Congress and asking the DOJ to "reinterpret" the laws in place. The Executive branch should have no part in a laws creation or interpretation, so here's to hoping a judge out there with some nuts shuts this shit down as quick as they did the immigration bans.
 
Whatever happened to give and take, give the libs a bump stock ban in exchange for removing suppressors from the NFA. If Trump can appoint enough pro 2a judges (strict constitutionalists) it won’t matter what the dipshits in the house and senate pass.
The other side of Dirty D. You are a deep thinker, no pun or species intended. You must be a Shankster Disciple, a smart perv. You are also right on the money, appoint enough strict Constitutional judges and it doesn't matter what any retarded politician or lower appellate court does, they will just get their peepee's whacked like the 9th Circuit does on a regular basis.