Get 'em while you can boys

[Centuriator]

I've got a bad feeling about this. I just ordered 100 30 round USGI magazines and got a new Brownells AR. I'm at my comfort level for mags, ARs and ammo?

Are you?

I've got a bad feeling about this, boys. Get 'em while you can.

A public service announcement.

 

[2ndamendfan]

I am sitting back relaxing, I did all that after sandy hook. Do wish that I had a chance to try a bump stock, something I could have told my grandkids about.

 

[deersniper]

Have too many guns and ammo already. Working on the ammo fort.

 

[my human host]

Nah. Give me a heads up if they try to ban barrel blanks, though.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

They'll be enough resupply in the street for our group to pick an choose from.

 

[FatBoy]

As a match shooter, I keep 18 months of supplies on hand to handload. I don't stockpile loaded ammo, as I have always looked at it as worthless UNLESS you cache, which I'm too cheap to do. I keep 2-3x combat load around. More than that and I can't move fast enough to not be easy pickings. Figured if it ever got that bad we would end up turning into "Negan" or get killed off or enslaved.

A guy at work bought an AR after one of the shootings several years back. He then promptly bought about 10,000 rounds of ammo. Now, if he was a match shooter I would say mehhh , but he's not. When I asked why he needed more than double combat load be told me that he could hold guys off from his house for days, at least. I told him if it was me coming in, if the first shot missed I'd back off, come in at night and burn the house down with him and his 10,000 rounds in it. Should have seen his face.... He sold all his stuff off six or seven months later.

 

[QuickNDirty]

As a match shooter, I keep 18 months of supplies on hand to handload. I don't stockpile loaded ammo, as I have always looked at it as worthless UNLESS you cache, which I'm too cheap to do. I keep 2-3x combat load around. More than that and I can't move fast enough to not be easy pickings. Figured if it ever got that bad we would end up turning into "Negan" or get killed off or enslaved.

A guy at work bought an AR after one of the shootings several years back. He then promptly bought about 10,000 rounds of ammo. Now, if he was a match shooter I would say mehhh , but he's not. When I asked why he needed more than double combat load be told me that he could hold guys off from his house for days, at least. I told him if it was me coming in, if the first shot missed I'd back off, come in at night and burn the house down with him and his 10,000 rounds in it. Should have seen his face.... He sold all his stuff off six or seven months later.

Yep.... Channel Francis Marion.

 

[Veer_G]

As a match shooter, I keep 18 months of supplies on hand to handload. I don't stockpile loaded ammo, as I have always looked at it as worthless UNLESS you cache, which I'm too cheap to do. I keep 2-3x combat load around. More than that and I can't move fast enough to not be easy pickings. Figured if it ever got that bad we would end up turning into "Negan" or get killed off or enslaved.

A guy at work bought an AR after one of the shootings several years back. He then promptly bought about 10,000 rounds of ammo. Now, if he was a match shooter I would say mehhh , but he's not. When I asked why he needed more than double combat load be told me that he could hold guys off from his house for days, at least. I told him if it was me coming in, if the first shot missed I'd back off, come in at night and burn the house down with him and his 10,000 rounds in it. Should have seen his face.... He sold all his stuff off six or seven months later.

Did he give you a good price for everything?

 

[FatBoy]

Did he give you a good price for everything?

one of our other techs bought most if it. and yes.

 

[Nik H]

Did he give you a good price for everything?

Now that is funny

 

[Spblademaker]

I love panic buys. Makes the price of all my shit go up. Thanks.

 

[deersniper]

Meh. You have to keep enough for a lifetime with shortages and the possibilities of bans.

Lots of people have dogs. A lot of people here have night vision or thermal. May not end well for the nocturnal arsonist.

 

[bogeybrown]

If after the previous administration you are just now buying mags and ammo then I guess "good for you"?

 

[Veer_G]

If after the previous administration you are just now buying mags and ammo then I guess "good for you"?

That sort of defines "late to the party."

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Meh. You have to keep enough for a lifetime with shortages and the possibilities of bans.

Lots of people have dogs. A lot of people here have night vision or thermal. May not end well for the nocturnal arsonist.

When the rule of law goes out the window the rule of law goes out the window. It will be a huge wake-up call for many.

 

[Arc Light]

Ammo, one cannot have too much ammo. Not gonna lie, I have bought a few more p-mags the last week.

 

[bogeybrown]

Ammo, one cannot have too much ammo. Not gonna lie, I have bought a few more p-mags the last week.

I keep finding boxes full of mags still in the wrapper that I bought years ago and forgot about. 3 days ago I moved a box and found another 3 cases of 5.56. It's nice to note even think about needing to "panic buy" anything again.

 

[Threadcutter308]

3 days ago I moved a box and found another 3 cases of 5.56. /QUOTE]

Well, now, that's a sweet windfall that most anyone would appreciate. Good for you.

 

[Veer_G]

CDNN is running interesting sales.

 

[101stinfantry]

True story, I can make it through several major engagements, and just leave the empty mags on the ground.

Hmmm, seems I haven't got the "Quote" thing down properly.

 

[deersniper]

Reply seems to be the quote button.

 

[shipereyes445]

I’ve got pistols:
Kimber pro cdp
Colt python 6”
Fn 5.7
Walther p5c
Hk mark 23
Colt commander
Wilson combat cqb
Springfield trp
Hk sp89
Etc
I have got atleast 12 rifle including an fn scar 17 and 16, hk93..... etc.
I’ve got some USGI magazines.
I’ve stock piled food,!ammos, bows, range finder and scopes. Am good to go.

 

[Nodakplowboy]

I’ve got pistols:
Kimber pro cdp
Colt python 6”
Fn 5.7
Walther p5c
Hk mark 23
Colt commander
Wilson combat cqb
Springfield trp
Hk sp89
Etc
I have got atleast 12 rifle including an fn scar 17 and 16, hk93..... etc.
I’ve got some USGI magazines.
I’ve stock piled food,!ammos, bows, range finder and scopes. Am good to go.

With all due respect, prepping rule# 1:

Don't advertise.

 

[McNamara0851]

I don’t mean for this to sound condescending, because I’m truly curious. What do you guys plan to do if the need to use 10,000 rounds of 5.56 or 7.62, or 500 magazines arises? Are you buying it to have a pile of goods to sell when they’re unobtainable? Is it feasible to believe that you would be able to utilize a stock pile of this shit if shit hit the fan? Are you preparing for a particular situation? Do you just want to have enough on hand to last a lifetime? My father was somewhat of a prepper, so after he passed away I had to move safes full of this shit around, and it was more or less a huge pain in my ass. I wasn’t able to get anywhere with it in a big hurry either. I’m a reloader, but I don’t hoard shit. I have about a year supply for every caliber and try to buy as much as I shoot. I’m just curious as to what people do with 2 dozen cheap AR-15s and pallets of ammo and magazines. I don’t foresee a standoff at the farm lasting that long, as I’m only one man, and I’m not gonna pick all that shit up again and take off into the cornfields with it. Just honesty curious what goes through your heads, because I’ve never really thought about buying in extreme excess like some. I believe in preparedness, but how much is too much?
ETA. My first impulse to comment on this came from the fact that I’m trying to keep this shit from rotting and corroding, so I’m cycling it out. I look at the price on a lot of the boxes and think, “holy shit, this guy got ass rammed on this stuff, now it’s worth about two rusty nickles.” I guess I would rather invest in enough to be comfortable and put the rest towards better rifles and glass.

 

[TheGerman]

Nothing is going to happen. Give it a week and the next 'disaster' will take over and put all the whining little bitches on the back burner.

The only people that start a panic are us and idiots like ARF.

 

[QuickNDirty]

I don’t mean for this to sound condescending, because I’m truly curious. What do you guys plan to do if the need to use 10,000 rounds of 5.56 or 7.62, or 500 magazines arises? Are you buying it to have a pile of goods to sell when they’re unobtainable? Is it feasible to believe that you would be able to utilize a stock pile of this shit if shit hit the fan? Are you preparing for a particular situation? Do you just want to have enough on hand to last a lifetime? My father was somewhat of a prepper, so after he passed away I had to move safes full of this shit around, and it was more or less a huge pain in my ass. I wasn’t able to get anywhere with it in a big hurry either. I’m a reloader, but I don’t hoard shit. I have about a year supply for every caliber and try to buy as much as I shoot. I’m just curious as to what people do with 2 dozen cheap AR-15s and pallets of ammo and magazines. I don’t foresee a standoff at the farm lasting that long, as I’m only one man, and I’m not gonna pick all that shit up again and take off into the cornfields with it. Just honesty curious what goes through your heads, because I’ve never really thought about buying in extreme excess like some. I believe in preparedness, but how much is too much?
ETA. My first impulse to comment on this came from the fact that I’m trying to keep this shit from rotting and corroding, so I’m cycling it out. I look at the price on a lot of the boxes and think, “holy shit, this guy got ass rammed on this stuff, now it’s worth about two rusty nickles.” I guess I would rather invest in enough to be comfortable and put the rest towards better rifles and glass.

Dunno, dude. I stock just enough to get more when I need it.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I keep enough for two major engagements at teh ready, I also keep enough to supply my neighbors if the need arises, even though they are well supplied. It doesn't hurt to bury stash and mark it with Gps and topo coordinates ammo cans in plastic bags will last 60 years. A couple thousand round is all you need at the ready.

I don’t mean for this to sound condescending, because I’m truly curious. What do you guys plan to do if the need to use 10,000 rounds of 5.56 or 7.62, or 500 magazines arises? Are you buying it to have a pile of goods to sell when they’re unobtainable? Is it feasible to believe that you would be able to utilize a stock pile of this shit if shit hit the fan? Are you preparing for a particular situation? Do you just want to have enough on hand to last a lifetime? My father was somewhat of a prepper, so after he passed away I had to move safes full of this shit around, and it was more or less a huge pain in my ass. I wasn’t able to get anywhere with it in a big hurry either. I’m a reloader, but I don’t hoard shit. I have about a year supply for every caliber and try to buy as much as I shoot. I’m just curious as to what people do with 2 dozen cheap AR-15s and pallets of ammo and magazines. I don’t foresee a standoff at the farm lasting that long, as I’m only one man, and I’m not gonna pick all that shit up again and take off into the cornfields with it. Just honesty curious what goes through your heads, because I’ve never really thought about buying in extreme excess like some. I believe in preparedness, but how much is too much?
ETA. My first impulse to comment on this came from the fact that I’m trying to keep this shit from rotting and corroding, so I’m cycling it out. I look at the price on a lot of the boxes and think, “holy shit, this guy got ass rammed on this stuff, now it’s worth about two rusty nickles.” I guess I would rather invest in enough to be comfortable and put the rest towards better rifles and glass.

 

[Servo93]

Nothing is going to happen. Give it a week and the next 'disaster' will take over and put all the whining little bitches on the back burner.

The only people that start a panic are us and idiots like ARF.

I hope you are right. Something tells me this may have more of a chance to screw us than normal. With republicans controlling everything i feel people on our side of the argument will just go about thier lives without putting in the political effort. Meanwhile the other side is pressuring them to “do something” and republicans, spineless as they are, will cave in the hopes to look good and improve ratings. This is about the best i can explain how i feel about it.
On a side note I feel the state level stuff will be an even harder battle.

 

[shipereyes445]

With all due respect, prepping rule# 1:

Don't advertise.

My apologies, I couldn’t resist.

 

[deersniper]

When you live in a commie state you need a lot of things. Never know what the people that represent .gov workers/women/minorities are going to try to ban next.

And running out of ammo sucks. I try to make sure that doesn't happen. Especially when it's cheap.

I bet a lot of people wish they would have filled half their basement with surplus7.62x51/x39/8mm etc in the 80s and early 90s when it was cheap.

 

[Steel+Killer]

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it..............

 

[BOLTRIPPER]

a gun buyer was heard by me several years back, at the check out counter....." i would rather die with guns than die with money".....

patriot or scholar....?

 

[W54/XM-388]

I don’t mean for this to sound condescending, because I’m truly curious. What do you guys plan to do if the need to use 10,000 rounds of 5.56 or 7.62, or 500 magazines arises? Are you buying it to have a pile of goods to sell when they’re unobtainable? Is it feasible to believe that you would be able to utilize a stock pile of this shit if shit hit the fan? Are you preparing for a particular situation? Do you just want to have enough on hand to last a lifetime? My father was somewhat of a prepper, so after he passed away I had to move safes full of this shit around, and it was more or less a huge pain in my ass. I wasn’t able to get anywhere with it in a big hurry either. I’m a reloader, but I don’t hoard shit. I have about a year supply for every caliber and try to buy as much as I shoot. I’m just curious as to what people do with 2 dozen cheap AR-15s and pallets of ammo and magazines. I don’t foresee a standoff at the farm lasting that long, as I’m only one man, and I’m not gonna pick all that shit up again and take off into the cornfields with it. Just honesty curious what goes through your heads, because I’ve never really thought about buying in extreme excess like some. I believe in preparedness, but how much is too much?
ETA. My first impulse to comment on this came from the fact that I’m trying to keep this shit from rotting and corroding, so I’m cycling it out. I look at the price on a lot of the boxes and think, “holy shit, this guy got ass rammed on this stuff, now it’s worth about two rusty nickles.” I guess I would rather invest in enough to be comfortable and put the rest towards better rifles and glass.

There are reasons.
Do you possibly intend to start your own local army out of your local church / town / neighborhood who are decent people but didn't prepare properly?

You'll pretty much not survive alone, the way to survive is to band as many people that can be trusted together and work together. It's pretty much how modern man survived and excelled in recorded history. Also pretty much the history of how this country was settled.

You can live alone in the mountains and fine... right till you get a bad infection and need antibiotics or get a serious broken leg or get a bit chewed up, come down with a really bad case of parasites etc.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Remember guns (I don't care what kind it is)only gets you to bigger an better things. Guns are but a tool to help open the door to good shit. A good plan will always trump a gun.

 

[300winemag]

Just for the record if anybody asks, about 2 or 5 years ago I sold every single rifle and pistol and all the ammo and reloading equipment I ever bought......

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Until places like Walmart, Lowes, Home Depot, NAPA, Pharmacy's, Paint, Electronic, Car/truck dealers, an Grocery stores go away, they'll never remove items that can bring more destruction than a gun ever can. When good people go bad or are pushed into being bad, want used to be for export only will come home to roost.

 

[m6z]

If after the previous administration you are just now buying mags and ammo then I guess "good for you"?

So true.

 

[DuneBoer]

I’ve got pistols:
Kimber pro cdp
Colt python 6”
Fn 5.7
Walther p5c
Hk mark 23
Colt commander
Wilson combat cqb
Springfield trp
Hk sp89
Etc
I have got atleast 12 rifle including an fn scar 17 and 16, hk93..... etc.
I’ve got some USGI magazines.
I’ve stock piled food,!ammos, bows, range finder and scopes. Am good to go.

Well, since you are advertising......You want to get rid of that pesky HK Mark 23?

 

[shipereyes445]

Well, since you are advertising......You want to get rid of that pesky HK Mark 23?

I bet you’d like that huh ?

 

[W54/XM-388]

The HK Mark 23 shooting Underwood .45 Super Heavy Penetrator rounds puts an impressive amount of energy downrange and punches through quite a bit of stuff.

 

[deersniper]

There's a G20 for sale here that would probably out penetrate the HK23 by a wide margin.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

There's a G20 for sale here that would probably out penetrate the HK23 by a wide margin.

Only if it's using underwood as well, std "tacticool ammo" nope.

 

[W54/XM-388]

There's a G20 for sale here that would probably out penetrate the HK23 by a wide margin.

Actually we have done a bunch of testing, comparing apples to apples so to speak against standard steel penetration and then able to have delivered energy. Where you are taking the hottest loaded solid bullets in the 9mm +P+, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 10mm, 45 super, .357 sig etc..

If you want to penetrate through something & then go on to actually have useable energy, you need lots of weight as well as speed.
In testing shooting through a 1/10th inch standard steel sheet and seeing damage to a second 1/10th inch sheet about 4 inches behind that, the 10mm is just slightly outclassed by the .45 Super because off the retained energy.

The best 10mm load from underwood was the 140gr at 1500fps (way better energy on second plate than the 100gr and 1825 fps)
The best .45 super load from underwood was the 200gr at 1100fps
The best .357 Sig load from underwood was the 115gr at 1450fps which was just behind the 10mm

Depending on exactly what you are shooting at, it may change, possibly in gel blocks the 10mm will do better, the problem is that usually you never hit a consistent mass all the way through, there will always be hide, bone, metal plates, wood, doors etc. that you will encounter, especially if you are shooting through some kind of light cover / concealment such as doors etc.

The 10mm outclasses all of them except the .45 super which has a slight edge, the .357 sig is just behind the 10mm and a great contender that you can shoot out of a lot of .40 S&W guns with a barrel change.
The 9mm was dead last despite everybody being in love with it these days.

However all of them are way behind when you pull out a 9" barreled Super Redhawk in .44 magnum, with the same maximum load ammo.
Also .50AE, .454, .460, .500 and the other magnum rounds way outclass everything else, but those are not rounds you carry in your average handgun.

If you want penetration through barriers & then useable energy after that in an average handgun without having to step up to the 10mm, the .357 Sig can be put onto a lot of .40 S&W guns and gives a pretty good account for itself.

 

[bogeybrown]

Well, since you are advertising......You want to get rid of that pesky HK Mark 23?

Funny how similar minds think differently, I saw the list and went right for the Python.