But it's a Utopian dream... so it keeps getting foisted on us.
Utopia... derived from a Greek word literally-transiated... meaning "No Place."
Utopia only exists in its non-existance. It can't exist.
Sirhr
I bet most younger people that mention "Utopia" have never read the book that that word in popular culture comes from.
The "Utopian" society was way less "free" than people think, the way the book was written. I would hate to live in "Utopia" as written.
It has been tried quite a few times, usually by Zealous Christian or Jewish cults, and is always the same oppressive mess.
I'd much rather live in Boondock, on the planet Tertius if I had to pick something, that's a lifestyle I could get behind and open weapons carrying for everyone.
The problem with the natural rights ideas of the founding of our country vs. people these days is one of simple logic.
The original founders of this country envisioned that you were free to choose your own destiny and you owed nobody and nobody owed you & as long as you were not hurting somebody else / society, you should be reasonably free to do as you wanted, live or die, sink or swim, flourish or starve to death. (In actual practice people were a lot less free due to the "morals" of society).
Today people seem to think that your "Natural Rights" Include free medicine, free food, guaranteed safety, never being offended, somebody taking care of your mistakes and children if you don't etc.
The problem is a basic one of logic, you cannot have the "Right" to anything that is the product of the labor, wealth or ingenuity of another person. If you have the "Right" to free healthcare, well you are now saying that the government should enslave somebody against their will to provide this for you. If you have the "Right" to food and benefits, what you are saying is that the government should enslave and steal from somebody else to give you that.
Basically everybody kind of understands it's wrong to go take somebody's stuff at gunpoint or make them serve you at gunpoint, but most seem perfectly happy with it, so long as they have a 3rd party middleman "The Government" do it for them.
Hence the problem with Republics & Democracies, and why they all fail in the end, when every idiot has the same voting power as the intelligent wise producers, eventually the takers, looters & leaches get enough numbers to vote endless bread & circuses, backed up by taking from producers at gunpoint (try not paying your taxes and see how long it is before men with guns who call themselves "Public Servants" come to take you and your possessions away). Then eventually begins the slow decline as the producers produce less and less and the leaches consume more and more till it becomes unstoppable.
People try the same ideas in the name of God, or Man, or Mankind or Atheism, Progress, Mother Earth or whatever, always ends up the same, it's just a matter of how long it takes to collapse.
