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FFS - Is there a way to check what your 'zeroing' enviromentals were?

TheGerman

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    In the turret profile as well as the presets/environmental screen you can select 'fixed zero' for a specific turret to basically save the zero data from when you checked 'fixed zero'. Easy enough.

    This then takes all of your current enviromentals and 'compares' them to your zero enviromentals and gives you your data.

    Lets say I checked 'fixed zero' a long time ago and never unchecked it. Is there a way to see what the fixed zero data was?
     
    I don’t think so. I asked Lex about how it captures things like firing direction among other things when building bullet profiles and he said that it pulls the data behind the scenes into the profile so I’m assuming it does the same thing here.
     
    Not that I am aware. The Fixed zero really only is relevant to people zeroing at long range and thus the need to recalculate your zero at your new DA..

    You never zeroed FFS at something weird, like 500 did you?

    I have to assume you know your physical zero distance on the rifle :)

    Either way, simply unchecking and using a new 100 zero will not ruin your data profiles one way or the other. If your physical zeros are 100 and you check and uncheck, it really is not going impact dope anyway. I just left mine unchecked always.
     
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    Yeah they're all 100 yards zeros, it was mainly one of those questions that came up when 'what happens if I accidentally uncheck the fixed zero box' in the presets screen when setting a shot up. They need to have an option to lock certain data.

    Looks like I should log it for each rifle/scope combo when I do it so that should I screw something up, I can just re enter it, fixed zero everything and be GTG. Was just hoping there was some sort of log somewhere as it obviously references the data.
     
    Yeah they're all 100 yards zeros, it was mainly one of those questions that came up when 'what happens if I accidentally uncheck the fixed zero box' in the presets screen when setting a shot up. They need to have an option to lock certain data.

    Looks like I should log it for each rifle/scope combo when I do it so that should I screw something up, I can just re enter it, fixed zero everything and be GTG. Was just hoping there was some sort of log somewhere as it obviously references the data.

    Using a fixed zero for 100 really isn't what it was intended for, but I guess their is no harm in it. I had asked Blaine about that as well as his thought on the rapid decays in transonic and people seeming to think a bullet "transitions" to smooth air when he attended a match with me. He had some very good points.
     
    Using a fixed zero for 100 really isn't what it was intended for, but I guess their is no harm in it. I had asked Blaine about that as well as his thought on the rapid decays in transonic and people seeming to think a bullet "transitions" to smooth air when he attended a match with me. He had some very good points.

    I always thought of it as a reference point especially when changing DA or temperatures drastically. From day to day you won't notice, but when I've gone other places its nice to see that once updating the DA components on the presets screen that my 100y zero is already .1 or .2 mils different.
     
    I always thought of it as a reference point especially when changing DA or temperatures drastically. From day to day you won't notice, but when I've gone other places its nice to see that once updating the DA components on the presets screen that my 100y zero is already .1 or .2 mils different.
    Wow, that is super interesting.

    If I zero at 100 in the Bay Area 29.9 and go to Tahoe, Colorado and Wyoming in around and up to 23inHg I do not get .1 zero sift.

    That said, if I reset o in a fast wind I do see a zero shift. Or if I were to zero at 400.
     
    Wow, that is super interesting.

    If I zero at 100 in the Bay Area 29.9 and go to Tahoe, Colorado and Wyoming in around and up to 23inHg I do not get .1 zero sift.

    That said, if I reset o in a fast wind I do see a zero shift. Or if I were to zero at 400.

    To be fair, the biggest offender is actually a 22LR :D

    But from doing arm board sheets in different DA ranges and temperatures, I've seen enough of where not at 100 yards, but down the line the numbers start changing from what your numbers off your zero card would have been at your zero DA/temperature. The fixed zero is fantastic for this and does all the work for me.

    Factoring in powder temperature if you have that checked as well as the data recorded at different temperatures ontop of the DA changes, I've seen a few times where the adjustments had already changed at the zero or not too far down range.

    Sure, is .1 mil difference at a 100 yard zero or at 250 yards going to matter? No. But I love the feature because I don't even have to think about it.
     
    To be fair, the biggest offender is actually a 22LR :D

    But from doing arm board sheets in different DA ranges and temperatures, I've seen enough of where not at 100 yards, but down the line the numbers start changing from what your numbers off your zero card would have been at your zero DA/temperature. The fixed zero is fantastic for this and does all the work for me.

    Factoring in powder temperature if you have that checked as well as the data recorded at different temperatures ontop of the DA changes, I've seen a few times where the adjustments had already changed at the zero or not too far down range.

    Sure, is .1 mil difference at a 100 yard zero or at 250 yards going to matter? No. But I love the feature because I don't even have to think about it.
    22LR needs RA4, but G1 is ok. Anyway, 22 seems to be about 4:1 to a cart like a 6.5.

    If I zero at 25 on my voduu 22 so not much of an issue. My 100 shots with wind that is almost nothing, moves the poi a lot. 100 would be a rough zero to use on the 22. That indead would be perfect for a fixed zero.

    Btw AB and a few others offer fixed zero under the bullet profile where you can see the zero settings. Usually called “enable zero atmosphere” or something similar.