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Wall

I think with last night and today's episodes, he is setting that up. Every 12 Bravo will be called up no matter how old, read the fine print.

any bitches look at you the wrong way from either side of the border give them some 165 mm justice.

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Skills stage
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Barricades( no pun intended)
Mil range for bonus points
With food and beverages I'll bet you could get a crew that supplied their own rifles and ammo.(gamer bags/tripods included)

R

KD gets boring after a while once you range the wall. Gotta find ways to liven it up. I see your list of ideas. Needs some development.

(I kid, I kid?)
 
SBRL-Southern Border Rifle League
KYL
Movers
Skills stage
Long range Engagement
Barricades( no pun intended)
Mil range for bonus points
With food and beverages I'll bet you could get a crew that supplied their own rifles and ammo.(gamer bags/tripods included)

R
I'll have to update my mil range cheat notes or I'll be shooting over the top of them.
 
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I would almost love to see a cost benefit analysis, of Wall vs Minefields, to be leaked out of The White House just to see leftist heads explode. An "Art of the Deal", aggressive negotiation tactic; The Unreasonable Open.

Minefields are super cheap next to a physical barrier. You only need to mine a few places and then you can put out ten thousand of these all across the border:
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I'll bet ten million dollars could enact the entire program across the entire Southern border.
 
Mine fields would work,, but what about the colateral dammage?
Cows, deer, hogs would hate to waste that recourse.

Then there may also be the endangered species such as the chupacabra.
I'm sure someone would cry a river over those.

Build the wall, save the chupacabra !
 
Seriously can we not start by issuing title 10 orders for the national guard for a start.
Make it a volentary program to start.
 
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have you ever been to the fucking desert on our border, anything on the border is on it way out as a species so WGAF, fuck off with your regulator state. Trump is killing it off.

Mine fields would work,, but what about the colateral dammage?
Cows, deer, hogs would hate to waste that recourse.

Then there may also be the endangered species such as the chupacabra.
I'm sure someone would cry a river over those.

Build the wall, save the chupacabra !
 
seriously????? just issue a fucking order to Sec Def, seal the fucking border round up all foreigners, deport , any trouble ship bodies back to whatever shithole they came from, that fucking simple, and totally constitutional.

Seriously can we not start by issuing title 10 orders for the national guard for a start.
Make it a volentary program to start.
 
I don't know if a wall will work... I think it needs to be part of a whole system. Which includes some better policies for migrant labor to come in temporarily... legally. Work... maybe. Can't hurt, certainly...

But I DO know... that the whole concept of a wall drives the left and the rest of the communists completely bat&^%t crazy!!!!

So I love the idea of a wall. I want a wall. A big, huge shiny wall. That will make Schumer, Pelosi, Bernie, Beto and all the rest of the socialists nutz! I am so for that... that I'll go and start welding on it myself if they'll let me. And send selfies to all the commies!

If they are against it and melting down over it... I know it must be good!

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
Wall Drug is taking a PR beating lately.....and I like that place....free water yea!

Their chocolate covered cake doughnuts are the fricking bomb.
Their coffee, well it's not so good.
Last time I was there with my dad we asked the lady if she would make an extra strong pot. She said hell yeah and that she would have a cup with us.

Do you think many migrants live in Wall, SD? Haha!!
 
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I don't know if a wall will work... I think it needs to be part of a whole system. Which includes some better policies for migrant labor to come in temporarily... legally. Work... maybe. Can't hurt, certainly...

But I DO know... that the whole concept of a wall drives the left and the rest of the communists completely bat&^%t crazy!!!!

So I love the idea of a wall. I want a wall. A big, huge shiny wall. That will make Schumer, Pelosi, Bernie, Beto and all the rest of the socialists nutz! I am so for that... that I'll go and start welding on it myself if they'll let me. And send selfies to all the commies!

If they are against it and melting down over it... I know it must be good!

Cheers,

Sirhr
Pick me up on the way, I've burnt some rod/wire in my day.

R
 
I say put them all in prison camps on the border to build the wall out of adobe bricks they can make. 30 feet wide 50 foot high....or we can put them on a plane to the south tip of africa. Then we can see how long it takes them to get back !!
 
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I saw a very similar wall go up very quickly when I lived in Germany, 1961-63...


Structurally "yes", but philosophically "no".

That analogy is one the communists would like made.

Id settle for the Australia solution - a broad, deep, turbulent water filled canal across the north and south frontiers preferably filled with sharks or sea crocs.......no one gives you guys a hard time for your security.
 
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seriously????? just issue a fucking order to Sec Def, seal the fucking border round up all foreigners, deport , any trouble ship bodies back to whatever shithole they came from, that fucking simple, and totally constitutional.


Just out of curiousity, who should do the rounding up of the foreigners?

Courts have long ruled that city, county and state law enforcement have no authority to enforce federal immigration law, let alone the police chief of Joplin, deporting someone from, say, Missouri to Mexico.

ICE has about 20,000 employees but about 3000 are sworn law enforcement agents, with arrest authority. The rest are jailers, clerks, process applications for naturalization, regulate businesses that legally bring in workers, process paperwork, drive transport busses, etc.


With a conservative estimate of 11,000,000 illegals living in the US, that comes to each ICE agent needing to arrest and deport 3,667 illegal aliens each.

The more generous, and likely more accurate estimate of 22,000,000 illegals puts the total at 7,333 illegals per ICE agent.

Border Patrol has 20,000 agents and the legal authority to arrest and deport illegals within the interior of the US (see 8usc1357), but i get the impression your not a fan of them being anywhere other than the border. And that would still put the total at 1100 illegals per BP agent.

The military has enough people to round up the illegals in the US interior, though they lack the legal authority. Would you support them doing it?

I used to be a 11b in the Army, and while my former coworkers were some of the best people ive ever known, it wasn't an outfit well suited to cruising around the neighborhood looking for people to arrest.

Oh, and the military loves to set up checkpoints ;) I'll be patiently waiting for -that- youtube checkpoint video.
 
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It's been stated a few times over, that many of the 'illegals' don't divulge where they actually came from, ergo it "is not possible" to return/deport them.

Which tells me that it is high time to invest in parachute futures because though a country can 'deny' a plane from landing, they can't 'unjump' a 'chutist from landing. And to toss the illegals out of the plane on a static-line is both a successful manner and could be an entertaining venture. Especially if done over islands.

Remote islands.
 
It's been stated a few times over, that many of the 'illegals' don't divulge where they actually came from, ergo it "is not possible" to return/deport them.

Which tells me that it is high time to invest in parachute futures because though a country can 'deny' a plane from landing, they can't 'unjump' a 'chutist from landing. And to toss the illegals out of the plane on a static-line is both a successful manner and could be an entertaining venture. Especially if done over islands.

Remote islands.

If were talking about methods that, although no politician in the US would ever consider, nor any judge allow, but would still yet be a helluva lot of fun, i want a illegal alien cannon.

One of the 16 inchers from the Missouri would work. Just toss in the illegal, a parachute (for humanitarian purposes) and 2 powder bags. Traverse, elevate, then send him back to his hometown.

Our ideas have similar chances of implementation.
 
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All this fuss over something that's not even a wall...this is a wall
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Yes sir, that certainly is.

It was effective too. Not because there was a barrier there, but because the barrier gave the Grenztruppen time to respond to the incursion, and because the Stazi and Grenztruppen handled incursions differently.

Our government gives them food, water, comfort, a bus ticket to wherever they want to go and a meal voucher to Outback Steakhouse.

The East Germans shot them with rifles and left the bodies to decompose, still tangled in the wire. Including women, and sometimes children. Americans can't take seeing women and children shot the way East Germans could.

Those old East German Steyr's are collector items now.

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The Stazi and Grenztruppen methodology would get just as far as the previously mentioned parachute ideas. Probably even less.

But, in the name of clarity, when we talk about shooting them, or other similar actions, to prevent entry, these days as much as half of them are women bringing children.

As someone who has seen some pretty gnarly mayhem, i do wonder how many here could actually stomach the real results of what they recommend.
 
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Just out of curiousity, who should do the rounding up of the foreigners?

Courts have long ruled that city, county and state law enforcement have no authority to enforce federal immigration law, let alone the police chief of Joplin, deporting someone from, say, Missouri to Mexico.

ICE has about 20,000 employees but about 3000 are sworn law enforcement agents, with arrest authority. The rest are jailers, clerks, process applications for naturalization, regulate businesses that legally bring in workers, process paperwork, drive transport busses, etc.


With a conservative estimate of 11,000,000 illegals living in the US, that comes to each ICE agent needing to arrest and deport 3,667 illegal aliens each.

The more generous, and likely more accurate estimate of 22,000,000 illegals puts the total at 7,333 illegals per ICE agent.

Border Patrol has 20,000 agents and the legal authority to arrest and deport illegals within the interior of the US (see 8usc1357), but i get the impression your not a fan of them being anywhere other than the border. And that would still put the total at 1100 illegals per BP agent.

The military has enough people to round up the illegals in the US interior, though they lack the legal authority. Would you support them doing it?

I used to be a 11b in the Army, and while my former coworkers were some of the best people ive ever known, it wasn't an outfit well suited to cruising around the neighborhood looking for people to arrest.

Oh, and the military loves to set up checkpoints ;) I'll be patiently waiting for -that- youtube checkpoint video.


Dont round anyone up.

Mitt Romney in a moment of lucidity had a cogent thought.......take away the source of subsistence and they will self deport.

No work unless legal, No public assistance unless you are a citizen.

We do that Mexico WILL build a wall.
 
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Yes sir! On this method, we 100% agree.

It also has the distinction of its cost being a negative number.

We just gotta convince Pelosi and Schumer. Or at the least, stop re-electing them.

Btw: we would also have to do away with welfare, otherwise there will be noone to fill those jobs.

A welfare/wic/section 8 recipient would be a fool to give up a 26,000 per year labor free occupation, in his own hometown, in order to move, just to get a job picking lettuce for 14,000 a year.
 
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Yes sir! On this method, we 100% agree.

It also has the distinction of its cost being a negative number.

We just gotta convince Pelosi and Schumer. Or at the least, stop re-electing them.

Btw: we would also have to do away with welfare, otherwise there will be noone to fill those jobs.

A welfare/wic/section 8 recipient would be a fool to give up a 26,000 per year labor free occupation, in his own hometown, in order to move, just to get a job picking lettuce for 14,000 a year.

I still think we need walls at certain points and drones and people and issue regular training patrols for our mil in areas.