Muzzle brake

[regnar375]

Getting a new barrel soon and am looking for a break for my 6.5x47. I have not run one before and have a few questions.

With so many out there are they all the same or donsome work better than others.

What are some I should look at?

 

[Skunkworx]

Check the search function, there’s hours and hours of threads covering this topic.

 

[Huskydriver]

Depends, are u planning on getting a can? Cuz you know... Shooting loud is uncivilized... Friends dont let friends shoot unsuppressed

 

[308pirate]

Depends, are u planning on getting a can? Cuz you know... Shooting loud is uncivilized... Friends dont let friends shoot unsuppressed

Friends don't let friends apply to the federal government for licenses to own shit.

If I ever wanted one, well................

 

[Huskydriver]

I mean how you choose to shoot supressed is obviously, entirely up to you haha

 

[regnar375]

Well after several hours of searching were back here.

Is there any noticable effective difference between brakes? I want a self timing brake with minimal concussion to the shooter.

Other than the 65guys test which I believe did not invlude

 

[kthomas]

Insite Heathen. Matches the performance of the best brakes out there, with the best design features IMO.

This week at shot they are releasing a new version which has changeable muzzle inserts, so you can have a 6mm insert, 6.5mm insert, .30 insert etc for maximized performance.

 

[Skunkworx]

Insite Heathen. Matches the performance of the best brakes out there, with the best design features IMO.

This week at shot they are releasing a new version which has changeable muzzle inserts, so you can have a 6mm insert, 6.5mm insert, .30 insert etc for maximized performance.

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Coming from the manufacturing industry that’s not a performance increasing mod, it’s just them looking to streamline production and lower costs a little.

 

[kthomas]

Coming from the manufacturing industry that’s not a performance increasing mod, it’s just them looking to streamline production and lower costs a little.

Use a 6mm insert when shooting 6mm rounds and the brake will be more effective. 6.5mm insert for 6.5 rounds and the brake again will be more effective.

The performance gain will be very minimal, and I'm curious if a shooter will be able to tell the difference. I plan on finding out.

Cool concept nonetheless, and IMO the Heathens are the best self timing brakes out there.

 

[kthomas]

Just get an Area 419, PVA Jetblast, or APA Little Bastard. Debating the three is arguing in margins.

I haven't tried a jet blast, but have owned or currently own an Area 419, APA little bastard and the Heathens. The Heathens are a better brake then the Area 419 and APA.

 

[kthomas]

Another advantage is that when you are cleaning the rifle you just need to remove the insert and not the brake. For those that have wandering zero issues whenever your remove and reinstall a brake, this is one answer.

 

[kthomas]

How so? What did you notice?

Recoil reduction performance is very similar amongst all 3. It's the other design nuances that make the Heathen a better designed brake.

Area 419 carbon locks up really easily, and it's a bitch to get it unlocked. The brake ports are really sharp - I've sliced my fingers up really good on that brake. Quite honestly, I would have expected a more refined finished product. Slightly more obnoxious to the shooter than the Heathen.

The APA is not tool-less. Requires a crescent wrench (or wrench of the correct size). Sucks when the brake comes loose during a stage at a match and you didn't bring a crescent wrench with you - ask me how I know. This brake is also really obnoxious to the shooter, it directs a lot of blast backwards.

The Heathen is tool-less, more refined machining, the least obnoxious, and just as good as mitigating recoil.

To me, the answer is clear. I think it's also worth noting that Matt Brousseau, x2 PRS golden bullet champion and doing the "team me" thing (forgoing sponsorship and shooting the products he wants because he thinks they're the best, rather than being a hoe for a sponsor) chooses the Heathen.

 

[308pirate]

All these claims of this brake is better than all the others are difficult impossible to believe without instrumented testing.

Anectdotal evidence and appeals to authority simply don't cut it.

 

[kthomas]

All these claims of this brake is better than all the others are difficult impossible to believe without instrumented testing.

Anectdotal evidence and appeals to authority simply don't cut it.

Brakes are so good these days it's hard to distinguish the recoil reducing properties on the better ones.

Where you can distinguish them is by their other features.

 

[kthomas]

Fair points.

I was just judging by recoil. I am 6'4" 250lbs and only shoot brakes on a 6br and Dasher. Can't tell the difference.

You started to lose me when you said "so and so shooter uses one" but brought me back in when you said he doesn't take sponsers. Props.

I find it pretty much impossible to distinguish them by recoil reducing properties as well - on a 6mm especially. I'm a lot smaller guy than you though!

 

[Huskydriver]

What's the insert made out of on the heathen? if that's aluminum it will get eaten up quick.

 

[kthomas]

What's the insert made out of on the heathen? if that's aluminum it will get eaten up quick.

Stainless steel.

 

[Huskydriver]

?

 

[jsimonh]

I've used a few timed brakes, Fat Bastard, CSR, and a couple of self timed brakes like the APA and 419. Cant tell much difference in performance from memory but the 419 hellfire was about 100 times easier for me to self time than the APA. I'll buy one of the 419 adapters for my Omega soon and give it a shot.

 

[Buck Lawman]

I had the same experience in trying to time that little bastard. Went to the 419 setup and love it. Use the hellfire on my 6.5 creed match rifle and the hellfire 2p on my 16.5 inch 6.5 creed hunter. Although the omega basically lives on the 16.5 rifle it's easy to move around even mid range session, which is a plus because I had a terrible time with that ASR mounting system either unscrewing itself and staying on the muzzle device or taking the muzzle device with it. Area 419 hasn't had any problems of the sort. I even run it on my 9 inch 300blk ar, although havent shot it with anything but the suppressor in awhile. Don't know how that hellfire 2p would be on that thing.

 

[Lynn Jr]

Buy a Harrell's Bros muzzlebrake and put all that extra money you saved into a new barrel.

 

[Iron Worker]

Awaiting a Terminator T4 for my 338-378 WBY Mag . Watching videos from various manufactures show the the T4 is most effective .