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Hey guys , wouldnt it show the ability of the shooter and equipment to shoot 1 shot at 50 induvidual spots (1/2" or so) rather than 10 different 5 shot groups?
Range Report Best 100y drill?
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Theoretically sure, I think the best drills you can do at 100 yards involve changing the pressures of the shooter rather than arbitrarily changing the target.
If you can, try doing a 5 shot group shooting from different positions and maintaining the consistency of the group.
100 yards isn't going to train any sort of intuition for drop or windage. So the best drills you can do are going to be putting more stress on yourself and not see any expansion in your groups.
Putting 1 round in 50 different targets won't make you any better of a shot in my opinion. It's just a waste of ammo and potential data.
If you can, try doing a 5 shot group shooting from different positions and maintaining the consistency of the group.
100 yards isn't going to train any sort of intuition for drop or windage. So the best drills you can do are going to be putting more stress on yourself and not see any expansion in your groups.
Putting 1 round in 50 different targets won't make you any better of a shot in my opinion. It's just a waste of ammo and potential data.
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I see what your saying, but i think shooters should practice with the tool they intend on using....if that makes sense
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Again you have to ask what your goal is? Are you competing at PRS? Are you just going to local bench-rest competitions? What ranges are you trying to get good at shooting from? Or just become an all around general shooter? I think if you have access to just short range (Sub 500 yards) .22lr trainers can be a great way to actually have to work with data and make windage calls. For larger calibers 300 yards the effect of wind is still incredibly marginal. You can take a $150 savage and hit bullseye targets at 300 yards all day long. What specific skills do you need to improve?
Even if it's just getting used to the gun. Shooting 10,000 targets benchrest with your rifle won't suddenly make you a dead-shot in a PRS competition or a hunt. You have to identify what you're trying to get good at that first, then come up with drills second.
Even if it's just getting used to the gun. Shooting 10,000 targets benchrest with your rifle won't suddenly make you a dead-shot in a PRS competition or a hunt. You have to identify what you're trying to get good at that first, then come up with drills second.
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Sometimes stressors are good. Push-ups between shots. Remember to watch indicators wile getting back on the gun. Shoot only off the reticle, helps me stay up with my SFP madness.
I never like prescribing exactly what to do, but the first guy that ever taught me PRS told me to just run the distance of my set target (necessary most of the time anyway) sprint there, sprint back, then do a prescribed course of fire.
That is ideally more dynamic than making 5 shots in a row at 100 yards. But if you can only do shooting at 100 yards and you want to be better as a shooter, push ups, sprints, anything to get your heart rate pumping. It's much harder to make those shots if your heart is pounding.
And the shocking thing is how many guys do PRS and don't actually raise their heart-rates during training. Despite training for events that will actually make your heart rate spike up.
Do a word search here in the Hide for 'Dot Drills' and read up on it, highly recommended. Printed targets are also provided in PDF.
Here are some drills. Hope this helps, have fun.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/attachments/dot-drill-target-pdf.6892109/
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/attachments/idbdrills-pdf.6892112/
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/attachments/dot-drill-target-pdf.6892109/
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/attachments/idbdrills-pdf.6892112/
I like to work in stress drills a lot because the closest range to me doesn't allow for shooters to go prone. If I want to go prone, I either have to drive an hour and pay $20 per hour (out to 600yds) or drive an hour and pay $20 for 100yds all day but they are only open on weekends. The non-prone range is like $10 for the day and barely ever has anyone out there during the week...so you can't beat that for a quick range day.
So what I'll do is use the 1" numbered dot target from the FBI sniper target package and have a buddy (or myself) shuffle/flip cards and call out a number and hit the timer. Then it is get on the gun from an alternate position (anything other than seated bench) and try to locate/engage the target as quickly as possible. I'll stand a bench on end, go to a lower standing/vehicle hood style table, off a tripod, or a support pole as shooting supports. Sometimes I'll include engaging the small numbered circle target and then transition to the reduced face FBI (200yd reduced) target from another position. Essentially to just put time and make me push myself in terms of practicing varying positions in order to ensure I'm not sacrificing fundamentals. As others have said, I'll incorporate physical stress on top of the timed mental stress by doing burpies or squats/push ups.
There is nothing I hate more than being told I can't shoot prone at a range (especially when I point out that it isn't prohibited in their Range Rules and SOPs but they argue that the projectile will go over the berm at 100yds... yet allow shooters to shoot 10yd and 5yd targets from the kneeling). So these types of drills have been my work around for those days I don't want to drive an hour.
But to go and do nothing but shoot 10rd and 5rd groups all day at 100yds... you'll be at a point of diminishing returns real quick and I hate it lol.
So what I'll do is use the 1" numbered dot target from the FBI sniper target package and have a buddy (or myself) shuffle/flip cards and call out a number and hit the timer. Then it is get on the gun from an alternate position (anything other than seated bench) and try to locate/engage the target as quickly as possible. I'll stand a bench on end, go to a lower standing/vehicle hood style table, off a tripod, or a support pole as shooting supports. Sometimes I'll include engaging the small numbered circle target and then transition to the reduced face FBI (200yd reduced) target from another position. Essentially to just put time and make me push myself in terms of practicing varying positions in order to ensure I'm not sacrificing fundamentals. As others have said, I'll incorporate physical stress on top of the timed mental stress by doing burpies or squats/push ups.
There is nothing I hate more than being told I can't shoot prone at a range (especially when I point out that it isn't prohibited in their Range Rules and SOPs but they argue that the projectile will go over the berm at 100yds... yet allow shooters to shoot 10yd and 5yd targets from the kneeling). So these types of drills have been my work around for those days I don't want to drive an hour.
But to go and do nothing but shoot 10rd and 5rd groups all day at 100yds... you'll be at a point of diminishing returns real quick and I hate it lol.
Cards
Get yourself 2 decks or 3 of playing cards and a timer. Put on or 2 decks on a bored. Rows, circle, hourglass whatever just mix them up well. One deck row another deck circle have fun with it.
Have a deck and timer with you flip a card or 3 over smack the timer 5 seconds or 3. That's the time you have to find and hit the card you picked off the deck you have with you. Hope it makes sense. One more add on you can do is if you have a face card head shots only or you have to hit all the spades hearts or whatever on that card
Get yourself 2 decks or 3 of playing cards and a timer. Put on or 2 decks on a bored. Rows, circle, hourglass whatever just mix them up well. One deck row another deck circle have fun with it.
Have a deck and timer with you flip a card or 3 over smack the timer 5 seconds or 3. That's the time you have to find and hit the card you picked off the deck you have with you. Hope it makes sense. One more add on you can do is if you have a face card head shots only or you have to hit all the spades hearts or whatever on that card
