Anyone getting one of these? I hate my tipton vice and am thinking of getting one of these.
Rifle Scopes SAC Final Scope Level
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I'm obviously having a brain fart and missing the point? Yes, I understand what it does but how does that degree of precision transfer to the rifle. What if the base has error, or the action/receiver? It looks like a very precise fixture, well made and engineered but I don't really get what advantage it has to the shooter over leveling the optic properly on the rifle?
I thought the same thing regarding the base as well. Any error in your rifle base won't be accounted for. Maybe I'm just a moron, but I'm just trying to eliminate the use of the Tipton gun vice, as I really hate the thing.
Then buy a Badger. I had your exact problem...
The Badger eliminates all of the fuss and muss associated with leveling the rifle and KEEPING it level through the adjustments. You make all adjustments very easily including the alignment of your scope level. No more Tipton, no more wheeler dual levels, etc. Just use the Badger and then move the scope over to the rifle when complete. You can even perform a tall target test on the Badger to ensure the tracking is good. I usually repeat this after mounting on the rifle to ensure I am not introducing any cant. The Arisaka wedges are good but also do not work in all installations due to the height below the rings or mount. Plus it moves so it is a bit of a pain although I used it well prior to buying a Badger.
To answer another question posed regarding errors in your base....that is correct. Using a tool like this or the Badger assumes that your rail or your bases and rail are correctly mounted and true. In most cases, this is a good assumption. If you use a shit stick, well you have bigger problems that need to be addressed.
I have used the Badger to mount optics on my AI, 3 Larue ARs, 1 KAC AR and an LWRC AR. Never had an issue with a bad or poorly machined rail on any of these sticks. Even my Annie which uses a DIP dovetail to picatinny adapter followed by NF rings was spot on.
Buy quality, check to be sure and be confident in your equipment.
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This is what I use and swear by it. I’ve actually fixed a couple friend’s scopes that were mounted because the Arisaka showed they were not completely level to the base. I’ve heard that you can’t use it on low rings but the one I got has 2 wedges, one for low/medium and one for medium/high. I guess for super low mounts it may not work.
I thought these were to be able to have a level sturdy base when checking the tracking on a scope. Along with leveling it, I would assume this heavy base device is for centering it on a grid target and checking the scopes mechanical accuracy. If not, complete overkill to just level a scope.
I'm sure you are absolutely correct, the primary/most valuable quality of the level/mount is used to confirm tracking. I still don't get it but hey, I'm probably much less precise than the people that would actually use and benefit by it. It's obviously well engineered.
