Gun Show..........
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I might need some beef jerky, or a quilt. How about a Chinese knife?
Not this time... but it is epic!
A few years ago while attending, a couple of buddies tried to estimate how much cash was in the room/ building. We could not do it.
Saw a Volcanic change hands in plain sight for $60k cash. One gun. Last time I went, I dropped $12k... well-invested!
Best gun show in America!!
Cheers, Sirhr
A few years ago while attending, a couple of buddies tried to estimate how much cash was in the room/ building. We could not do it.
Saw a Volcanic change hands in plain sight for $60k cash. One gun. Last time I went, I dropped $12k... well-invested!
Best gun show in America!!
Cheers, Sirhr
I’ve heard it’s pretty spectacular. Maybe someday. But if it’s gonna cost me $12,000 when I walk through the door, I may need to just stay home!
This is not your average gun show........They claim 11 acres under one roof, over 4200 tables......you could be there both days and never see it all..........
A bunch of buddies and I used to go every year, fall and spring. However Wanenmacher has tables priced so high now, we quit going.
but.......it's still only $10 to get in............the reason I go is you never know what you will run across.............if it is a firearm, someone there has one............in conditions from NIB to a parts gun.........everything and anything...........
The thing is that if you get in on Friday... which is sort of the Secret Squirrel Club dealer day.... you can drop 12K and come home with $40K worth of purchases at 'retail'. Yup, I dropped that much. Came home with an London Best shotgun with an easily-repaired cracked stock, a Holland and Holland Rook Rifle, a Darne, a Kucer miniature, a Colt New Service, a Smith and Wesson M-frame Ladysmith, 30,000 .311 bullets, over 100 pounds of powder, thousands of rounds of brass, a really messed up but spectacular English best caplock pistol from a $100 bin), a Garand, a '97 winchester, a DWM 1916 Luger, Two 'Rifle Shoppe' kits, and some misc stuff.
Yup, spendy. But it's gunbroker prices divided by 2. To paraphrase a great 'Merikan... "Its a target environment so rich that you can just reach down and pick up diamonds as big as mule turds!"
Best Gun Show in America (that I have been to)... but never been to the Las Vegas Antique Arms show. And I hear that is amazing.
Cheers,
Sirhr
That's true, and your points are certainly valid, friday afternoon can make your trip. But you can't see everything there in 1 day, and I need a place to sit down, with some refreshments, plus a place to store my goodies w/o having to walk a mile to the vehicle. We would always take stuff with us to sell, to offset the cost of the trip too. It's great fun, but when tables hit $175 each, it just wasn't worth it to me anymore.
Wannemacher even regularly makes the news. For years high dollar guns were being stolen off tables. Finally caught the guys...three other "reputable" long standing dealeers who had beenn attending...and stealing... for years.
Three arrested as new video surveillance system foils thefts at gun show
Correction: This story originally identified the wrong person who was in possession of the Savage Model 99 rifle. According to Tulsa Police Officer Leland Ashley, George Reginald Adams was in possession of a Savage Model 99 rifle reported stolen in San Antonio, Texas, in 1995. This story has been corrected.
Three men were arrested Friday and Saturday during the Wanenmacher’s Tulsa Arms Show with the help of a new video surveillance system in the River Spirit Expo building, and the accused are longtime trusted gun dealers.
“The surprising thing, all three of these were dealers, they had (vendor) badges, and they had been coming to our show for several years,” said show founder Joe Wanenmacher. “These were not young guys, either. I’ll just say they were old enough to know better. This is wild!”
Arrested were show vendors Kenneth Lee Reynolds, 74, of Ottumwa, Iowa; George Reginald Adams, 78, of Wichita Falls, Texas; and Richard Eugene Futch, 68, of Seymore, Texas.
Futch was arrested Friday on a charge of grand larceny, and at the same time Adams was arrested on a charge of concealing stolen property. Both posted bond Friday.
Futch is accused of stealing a Colt Derringer at the show valued at $1,200. While investigating the thefts, officers ran serial numbers of firearms on the tables and found that Adams was in possession of a Savage Model 99 rifle reported stolen in San Antonio, Texas, in 1995, according to Tulsa Police Officer Leland Ashley.
Reynolds, arrested Saturday, remained in jail Monday on two counts of grand larceny, with bail set at $4,000, Ashley said. He is accused of stealing a Parker 28-gauge double-barrel shotgun worth about $14,000 and a custom-grade Dakota hunting rifle with gold inlay worth $21,900.
“He was observed on camera taking the shotgun and the rifle from two different victims,” Ashley said.
Wanenmacher said he didn’t have quick access to paperwork but guessed that Reynolds has been a regular vendor at the show for nearly 20 years.
The new video equipment allowed the gun show security team to review footage of the dealer tables through the period they suspected their firearms disappeared.
“We saw them take the guns and were able to follow them back and see them put them under their own tables,” Wanenmacher said.
Reynolds later was seen taking the expensive firearms out to his vehicle, he said.
“My intuition always was it had to be a vendor,” Wanenmacher said. “If a customer tried to do it they would be stopped and caught by security guards at the door. But vendors take things out in cases and can take out several firearms at a time.”
The video surveillance system, installed by Chris Archer of AllTech Fire and Security Inc. in Bixby, is in place at the Expo building for future events and, eventually, is planned to cover all of Expo Square — including the fairgrounds midway, Archer said.
The cameras are 8-megapixel pan-tilt-zoom cameras connected to servers that allow remote online operation and include the ability to track items or people with facial recognition from camera to camera.
“It covers the entire building, wall-to-wall, door-to-door,” Archer said.
He said he installed the system at no cost in exchange for space and promotional signage.
“This is peace of mind and providing an environment that is safe,” he said.
Vendors and customers at the gun show seemed to appreciate the new development.
“We announced over the loud speaker that a third thief had been arrested and taken away, and there was a big cheer and applause across the floor — the whole building,” Wanenmacher said.
He said he has requested video surveillance for years. At his show in November, three rifles — two collectible Henry rifles and an 1866 Winchester worth a combined $170,000 — went missing.
“I just wish we’d had it last year when we lost those rifles,” he said.
And more recently
Thieves steal $100,000 in guns from gun show vendors in Tulsa
By: Sara Hart
Updated: Nov 13, 2017 - 10:31 PM
TULSA, Okla. - Quick facts:
After the show ended Sunday night, a Florida couple who spent time at the show as vendors stayed at the Comfort Suites near I-44 and Memorial.
Detectives say that thieves broke into the couple’s trailer and stole a third of their gun collection, an estimated $100,000, sometime between 8 p.m. Sunday and 8 a.m. Monday.
The couple told FOX23 they are heartbroken.
One of the victims is a retired Navy commander, and he says his guns are collectibles from several different wars.
It will take them more than two years to recover from the loss.
Police say the couple did everything they could to keep their guns secure.
The trailer had heavy-duty locks, and it was parked less than a foot from a wall to try and keep anyone from getting inside.
Three arrested as new video surveillance system foils thefts at gun show
Correction: This story originally identified the wrong person who was in possession of the Savage Model 99 rifle. According to Tulsa Police Officer Leland Ashley, George Reginald Adams was in possession of a Savage Model 99 rifle reported stolen in San Antonio, Texas, in 1995. This story has been corrected.
Three men were arrested Friday and Saturday during the Wanenmacher’s Tulsa Arms Show with the help of a new video surveillance system in the River Spirit Expo building, and the accused are longtime trusted gun dealers.
“The surprising thing, all three of these were dealers, they had (vendor) badges, and they had been coming to our show for several years,” said show founder Joe Wanenmacher. “These were not young guys, either. I’ll just say they were old enough to know better. This is wild!”
Arrested were show vendors Kenneth Lee Reynolds, 74, of Ottumwa, Iowa; George Reginald Adams, 78, of Wichita Falls, Texas; and Richard Eugene Futch, 68, of Seymore, Texas.
Futch was arrested Friday on a charge of grand larceny, and at the same time Adams was arrested on a charge of concealing stolen property. Both posted bond Friday.
Futch is accused of stealing a Colt Derringer at the show valued at $1,200. While investigating the thefts, officers ran serial numbers of firearms on the tables and found that Adams was in possession of a Savage Model 99 rifle reported stolen in San Antonio, Texas, in 1995, according to Tulsa Police Officer Leland Ashley.
Reynolds, arrested Saturday, remained in jail Monday on two counts of grand larceny, with bail set at $4,000, Ashley said. He is accused of stealing a Parker 28-gauge double-barrel shotgun worth about $14,000 and a custom-grade Dakota hunting rifle with gold inlay worth $21,900.
“He was observed on camera taking the shotgun and the rifle from two different victims,” Ashley said.
Wanenmacher said he didn’t have quick access to paperwork but guessed that Reynolds has been a regular vendor at the show for nearly 20 years.
The new video equipment allowed the gun show security team to review footage of the dealer tables through the period they suspected their firearms disappeared.
“We saw them take the guns and were able to follow them back and see them put them under their own tables,” Wanenmacher said.
Reynolds later was seen taking the expensive firearms out to his vehicle, he said.
“My intuition always was it had to be a vendor,” Wanenmacher said. “If a customer tried to do it they would be stopped and caught by security guards at the door. But vendors take things out in cases and can take out several firearms at a time.”
The video surveillance system, installed by Chris Archer of AllTech Fire and Security Inc. in Bixby, is in place at the Expo building for future events and, eventually, is planned to cover all of Expo Square — including the fairgrounds midway, Archer said.
The cameras are 8-megapixel pan-tilt-zoom cameras connected to servers that allow remote online operation and include the ability to track items or people with facial recognition from camera to camera.
“It covers the entire building, wall-to-wall, door-to-door,” Archer said.
He said he installed the system at no cost in exchange for space and promotional signage.
“This is peace of mind and providing an environment that is safe,” he said.
Vendors and customers at the gun show seemed to appreciate the new development.
“We announced over the loud speaker that a third thief had been arrested and taken away, and there was a big cheer and applause across the floor — the whole building,” Wanenmacher said.
He said he has requested video surveillance for years. At his show in November, three rifles — two collectible Henry rifles and an 1866 Winchester worth a combined $170,000 — went missing.
“I just wish we’d had it last year when we lost those rifles,” he said.
And more recently
Thieves steal $100,000 in guns from gun show vendors in Tulsa
By: Sara Hart
Updated: Nov 13, 2017 - 10:31 PM
TULSA, Okla. - Quick facts:
- Someone stole $100,000 in guns from a Florida couple who were acting as vendors at the Wanenmacher's Tulsa Arms Show this weekend.
- The couple says it will take more than two years to recover.
- Police say the couple did everything they could to keep the guns secured
After the show ended Sunday night, a Florida couple who spent time at the show as vendors stayed at the Comfort Suites near I-44 and Memorial.
Detectives say that thieves broke into the couple’s trailer and stole a third of their gun collection, an estimated $100,000, sometime between 8 p.m. Sunday and 8 a.m. Monday.
The couple told FOX23 they are heartbroken.
One of the victims is a retired Navy commander, and he says his guns are collectibles from several different wars.
It will take them more than two years to recover from the loss.
Police say the couple did everything they could to keep their guns secure.
The trailer had heavy-duty locks, and it was parked less than a foot from a wall to try and keep anyone from getting inside.
I hate thieves. I'm glad they were caught, but they don't need to make the arraignment. I'm sure there are eleventy flights of stairs that they could fall down.
As for the vendors who were stealing from other vendors..... their personal possessions should be divided equally and thoroughly then given to those whom had firearms stolen 'from inside' over the years. That's right, the whole family estate.
Then, as I've said many other times elsewhere, the thieves themselves still have some value, inherently. So part them out too, "So That Others May Live" and so that they can actually contribute something to society as a whole. What's the going 'value' on:
2 kidneys
2 lungs
1 liver (divided by 3)
1 heart
4 limbs
square-footage of skin (there's TOO MANY burn victims out there that need skin)
oh, and 2 corneas.
Can you see how this process can help society in SO many ways? Think of all the people getting helped. Think of all the people getting a modicum of 'made even'. Think of all the "people" whom would know that there are now 'actual consequences' for dastardly actions.
Is there a downside?
As for the vendors who were stealing from other vendors..... their personal possessions should be divided equally and thoroughly then given to those whom had firearms stolen 'from inside' over the years. That's right, the whole family estate.
Then, as I've said many other times elsewhere, the thieves themselves still have some value, inherently. So part them out too, "So That Others May Live" and so that they can actually contribute something to society as a whole. What's the going 'value' on:
2 kidneys
2 lungs
1 liver (divided by 3)
1 heart
4 limbs
square-footage of skin (there's TOO MANY burn victims out there that need skin)
oh, and 2 corneas.
Can you see how this process can help society in SO many ways? Think of all the people getting helped. Think of all the people getting a modicum of 'made even'. Think of all the "people" whom would know that there are now 'actual consequences' for dastardly actions.
Is there a downside?
Every year we went, we heard of stuff being stolen. Then there were the wonderful NDs, not every year, but every other anyway. It was still a lot of fun. Just isn't what it was 15 years ago.
Sitting in my very nice by the way, hotel room in Tulsa, drinking some bourbon, and trolling the Hide....................?
