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Red Storm Rising

Hi,

The real Russia buildup going on right now that is getting larger by the minute, yet continues to slide under the table is their Middle East ventures.

Russia is gaining more and more of the Middle East Military and Defense industry contracts every single day. And lets face it...it isn't just about the money with Russia....it is about partnerships and location, location, location.

Sincerely,
Theis
 
U.S. NATO generals have said --- about 3 years ago --- that a Russian blitzkrieg will take only 3 days to defeat NATO forces staged in Eastern Europe.
 
Hi,

The real Russia buildup going on right now that is getting larger by the minute, yet continues to slide under the table is their Middle East ventures.

Russia is gaining more and more of the Middle East Military and Defense industry contracts every single day. And lets face it...it isn't just about the money with Russia....it is about partnerships and location, location, location.

Sincerely,
Theis

Russia and Turkey

Like peas and carrots

Done deal waiting to get done
 
U.S. NATO generals have said --- about 3 years ago --- that a Russian blitzkrieg will take only 3 days to defeat NATO forces staged in Eastern Europe.

In what fantasy world are you living? Even at the height of the cold war, it was projected to only take 24hrs to overrun Europe (and that was with a hell of a lot more equipment on both sides).
 
U.S. NATO generals have said --- about 3 years ago --- that a Russian blitzkrieg will take only 3 days to defeat NATO forces staged in Eastern Europe.


"Nearly two years of extensive wargaming and analysis shows that if Russia were to conduct a short-warning attack against the Baltic States, Moscow’s forces could roll to the outskirts of the Estonian capital of Tallinn and the Latvian capital of Riga in 36 to 60 hours. In such a scenario, the United States and its allies would not only be outranged and outgunned, but also outnumbered."

I would submit that has basically always been the case in the event of a conventional Russia v. NATO war in Europe - territory would be surrendered near-term assuming a massive all-out offensive (whose buildup somehow went unnoticed)...and when greater NATO forces arrived into theater their offense would stalemate, then they'd begin to lose the ground gained with a likely negotiated end of hostilities forthcoming.

Within 4-8 hours of the balloon going up, hangars and flight lines at Whiteman, Minot, Ellsworth, Dyess and Barksdale would be empty with that airpower arriving in weapons release range ~12 hours later. Of course Russia has a significant and capable IADS, and I'm sure their fighters would be up and aggressive...but our Euro friends have fairly capable (if small) air forces and our fighters (in-theater and having been tanker-dragged across the Atlantic) would be ready to fuck some Russkies up.

It'd be an ugly and bloody scenario, on the ground, air, and later again on the ground...one better left to novels.
 
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Well with all the cooking and decorating European men are doing in lieu of shooting sports or other toxic male pursuits the Russians will have some well trained FOB slaves to decorate and cook.

Comrade Merkel will be thanked for her role.

Fuck Western Europe, lets just help the Poles, Czechs and the like that care about their nations.
 
Well with all the cooking and decorating European men are doing in lieu of shooting sports or other toxic male pursuits the Russians will have some well trained FOB slaves to decorate and cook.

Yup

Comrade Merkel will be thanked for her role.

Fuck Western Europe, lets just help the Poles, Czechs and the like that care about their nations.
 
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"Nearly two years of extensive wargaming and analysis shows that if Russia were to conduct a short-warning attack against the Baltic States, Moscow’s forces could roll to the outskirts of the Estonian capital of Tallinn and the Latvian capital of Riga in 36 to 60 hours. In such a scenario, the United States and its allies would not only be outranged and outgunned, but also outnumbered."

I would submit that has basically always been the case in the event of a conventional Russia v. NATO war in Europe - territory would be surrendered near-term assuming a massive all-out offensive (whose buildup somehow went unnoticed)...and when greater NATO forces arrived into theater their offense would stalemate, then they'd begin to lose the ground gained with a likely negotiated end of hostilities forthcoming.

Within 4-8 hours of the balloon going up, hangars and flight lines at Whiteman, Minot, Ellsworth, Dyess and Barksdale would be empty with that airpower arriving in weapons release range ~12 hours later. Of course Russia has a significant and capable IADS, and I'm sure their fighters would be up and aggressive...but our Euro friends have fairly capable (if small) air forces and our fighters (in-theater and having been tanker-dragged across the Atlantic) would be ready to fuck some Russkies up.

It'd be an ugly and bloody scenario, on the ground, air, and later again on the ground...one better left to novels.


you give the Europeans too much credit.
time and time again we see that whole continent unable to put planes in the air.
my personal belief is that russia would go as far as their fuel allows the first 3-4 days.
by then there would be enough american casualties and the peace talks would begin, kind of germany and poland.
if they would have stopped there, dollar to donuts WWII would have been peace talked away for a few more years.
 
If the Soviet Union collapsed under the weight of its global-political agenda and spending whatever it took to try to keep it going, how is Russia going to avoid the same fate?

I am pretty sure Putin is all in on this as a way to deflect criticism from his dictatorship
 
If the Soviet Union collapsed under the weight of its global-political agenda and spending whatever it took to try to keep it going, how is Russia going to avoid the same fate?

I am pretty sure Putin is all in on this as a way to deflect criticism from his dictatorship

Hi,

Do you have any idea how many billions and billions of dollars is being funneled into Russia from UAE, Algeria, Morocco, Lebanon and Saudi Arabia?
Ras Al Khaimah UAE is completely run by Russians.
And that is not including all the joint venture military and defense companies being setup in Abu Dhabi and Riyadh right not, such as Kalishnikov, MIL Helicopter, Fakal Machine (S400 Missile System), etc etc

Shit...even the USA has exempted Rosoboron Export from the sanctions put on Russia from USA.

Sincerely,
Theis
 
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Hi,

Do you have any idea how many billions and billions of dollars is being funneled into Russia from UAE, Algeria, Morocco, Lebanon and Saudi Arabia?
Ras Al Khaimah UAE is completely run by Russians.
And that is not including all the joint venture military and defense companies being setup in Abu Dhabi and Riyadh right not, such as Kalishnikov, MIL Helicopter, Fakal Machine (S400 Missile System), etc etc

Shit...even the USA has exempted Rosoboron Export from the sanctions put on Russia from USA.

Sincerely,
Theis

Are the Wahhabis trying to do by bank what they couldnt do with Chechen force?

I cant imagine the Russians want to go back to wearing Kaftans and paying tribute to the Horde seated in Riyadh rather than the Crimea.
 
Reminds me of the phrase "False sense of security..."

A snake is a snake. See it, kill it. There will still be more; just somewhere else.

Great book, but it seemed a little obsolete; at the time...

I think Putin read it anyway, and now what we see..., has been afoot for decades.

Maskirovka.., from the book.

Modern doctrine
Russian military deception is broadly equated with maskirovka,[14][15][16] but other terms are also used in the area, including the "fog of war", tuman voyny.[17] Khitrost means a commander's personal gift of cunning and guile, part of his military skill, whereas deception is practised by the whole organization and does not carry the sense of personal trickiness; nor need the Russian use of deception be thought of as "evil".[18] Indeed, Michael Handel reminds readers, in the preface to the military analyst David Glantz's book, of Sun Tzu's claim in The Art of War that all warfare is based on deception; Handel suggests that deception is a normal and indeed necessary part of warfare.[19] The goal of military deception is however surprise, vnezapnost, so the two are naturally studied together.[20]

However, the military analyst William Connor cautioned that in the Soviet sense, the doctrine covered much more than camouflage and deception. It had, he suggested, the connotation of active control of the enemy. By the time of Operation Bagration in 1944, Connor argues, the Russian doctrine of military deception already included all these aspects.[21] The meaning evolved in Soviet practice and doctrine to include strategic, political, and diplomatic objectives, in other words operating at all levels.[3] This differs from Western doctrines on deception, and from information warfare doctrines, by its emphasis on pragmatic aspects.[3] According to the analyst James Hansen, deception "is treated as an operational art to be polished by professors of military science and officers who specialize in this area."[22] In 2015, Julian Lindley-French described strategic maskirovka as "a new level of ambition"[23] established by Moscow to unbalance the West both politically and militarily.[24]




A Western view: Soviet military deception at different operational levels of war as theorized by the American defence researcher Charles Smith[4]

In military intelligence, the Russian doctrine roughly corresponds to Western notions of denial and deception.[25][3][26][27][28] The United States Army's Glossary of Soviet Military Terminology from 1955 defined maskirovka as "camouflage; concealment; disguise."[11] The International Dictionary of Intelligence from 1990 defined it as the Russian military intelligence (GRU) term for deception.[11] Robert Pringle's 2006 Historical Dictionary of Russian and Soviet Intelligence defined it as strategic deception.[29] Scott Gerwehr's The Art of Darkness summarized it as deception and operational security.[30] The historian Tom Cubbage commented that military deception was enormously successful for the Soviets, and whatever the United States might think, for the Soviet Union it was something to make use of both in war and in peacetime.[31] An article in The Moscow Times explained: "But маскировка has a broader military meaning: strategic, operational, physical and tactical deception. Apparently in U.S. military terminology, this is called either CC&D (camouflage, concealment and deception) or more recently D&D (denial and deception). It is the whole shebang—from guys in ski masks or uniforms with no insignia, to undercover activities, to hidden weapons transfers, to—well, starting a civil war but pretending that you've done nothing of the sort."[27]

In his comprehensive study, Soviet Military Deception in the Second World War, Glantz summarized the Russian doctrine as involving both active and passive deception and surprise. For the Soviets, deception permeated all levels of war. And since they thought of war as just an extension of politics by other means, deception could and should be used and constantly considered in politics before a war began, if it was to work effectively.[32]

The American defence researcher Charles Smith identified different dimensions of Russian military deception. He divided it into multiple types – optical, thermal, radar, radio, sound/silence; multiple environments – aquatic, space, atmosphere – each involving active or passive measures; and organizational aspects – mobility, level, and organization. The levels are the conventional military ones, strategic, operational, and tactical, while organization refers to the military branch concerned. Finally, Smith identified principles – plausibility, continuity through peace and war, variety, and persistent aggressive activity; and contributing factors, namely technological capability and political strategy.[4][33]

Smith also analyzed the Soviet doctrine, considering it as "a set of processes designed to mislead, confuse, and interfere with accurate data collection regarding all areas of Soviet plans, objectives, and strengths or weaknesses".[4]

Measures employed in Russian military deception[4]
MeasureRussian nameWestern equivalentTechniquesExample
Concealment[4]сокрытие
(sokrytiye)
CamouflageAwnings, smoke screens, nets, radio silenceBuilding tanks in an automobile plant
Imitation[4]имитация
(imitatsiya)
Mimicrydecoys, military dummiesDummy tanks with radar reflectors; decoy bridges created by a line of floating radar reflectors
Simulation[4]симуляция
(simulyatsiya)
SimulationDecoys, etc.Dummy artillery battery complete with noise and smoke
Disinformation[4]дезинформация
(dezinformatsiya)
DisinformationFalse letters; untrue information to journalists; inaccurate maps; false orders; orders with false dates
Demonstrative manoeuvres[4]демонстративные маневры
(Demonstrativnyye manevry)
FeintsFalse trailsAttacks away from the main thrust; pontoon bridges away from attack routes



Described as 'In development...'
 
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