Question For the Short Mag Shooters

[charnicus]

For those of you short mag shooters running repeaters, what’s your go to magazine?

I’m working on a 6.5 SST. Expected COAL to be somewhere near 2.8” based on Sherman’s data for a 147ELD.

Action will be a Lone Peak Fuzion. Bottom metal most likely to be a Hawkins.

Perhaps the later data has no meaning...

Thanks in advance.

 

[Joshf303]

Binderless Accurate mags.

 

[charnicus]

Binderless Accurate mags.

You get the special WSM version or adjust the feedlips yourself?

 

[Cjl2010]

300wsm Accurate mag with no front plate. My 6.5SS is built on a lone peak fuzion TI with SOL bottom metal.

 

[Joshf303]

You get the special WSM version or adjust the feedlips yourself?

Have them both ways and no problems out of the later. But for simplicity, I’ll go with the WSM if they are available.

 

[charnicus]

I'm also chambering a 6.5 sst but I'm going to have it throated 40 or 50 thou. My plan is to use binderless AICS mags. Let me know what you find out.

You gonna run the 152s?

 

[charnicus]

Have them both ways and no problems out of the later. But for simplicity, I’ll go with the WSM if they are available.

Simplicity is always a treat haha. Thanks for the input!

 

[charnicus]

300wsm Accurate mag with no front plate. My 6.5SS is built on a lone peak fuzion TI with SOL bottom metal.

Thanks for the input! Sounds like a nice build.

 

[Cjl2010]

Thanks for the input! Sounds like a nice build.

It turned out real nice. Make life simple and start with 300wsm mags if you don’t already have mags. Feed lips are opened up and leaves you will very little tuning needed if any.

 

[charnicus]

It turned out real nice. Make life simple and start with 300wsm mags if you don’t already have mags. Feed lips are opened up and leaves you will very little tuning needed if any.

Yeah this is exactly why I asked haha.

 

[garandman]

2.930" is too long in a Accurate Mag with binder plate. 2.80 should work, but I'd get the mags w/o binders.

 

[charnicus]

147's. Who's making a 152? The Sierra 150 is tempting but I bet they are picky like all of their other needle nose high BC bullets. 110, 95, 183's. You would actually want a short freebore for them. Short bearing surface, long nose.

For some reason I was thinking those Sierras were 152. I haven’t had any luck with any of their high BC 6mm bullets. What freebore does their provided reamer cut? I wanted to give the 140 Bergers a try in addition to the 147ELD.

 

[charnicus]

2.930" is too long in a Accurate Mag with binder plate. 2.80 should work, but I'd get the mags w/o binders.

Agree 100% better to have the room and not need it than need the room and not have it.

 

[ormandj]

147's. Who's making a 152? The Sierra 150 is tempting but I bet they are picky like all of their other needle nose high BC bullets. 110, 95, 183's. You would actually want a short freebore for them. Short bearing surface, long nose.

Hornady makes a 153 now: https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/6.5mm-264-153-gr-a-tip-match#!/

Depending on what you're shooting, the consistency, not necessarily the BC may make it a better choice than the 147 ELD-M. We'll have to wait for some more range reports on these A-Tips, but what I've read so far has been really positive in how consistent they are, which has generally been the downside to Hornady bullets. If you're shooting out ELR distances, it may be a statistically significant difference. Under, probably not worth the $. A-Tips are also supposedly easy to load/not picky/tolerate jump. No first-hand on that, just reading. I'll be ordering some soon enough once I get my reloading room re-setup post-move.

 

[charnicus]

Hornady makes a 153 now: https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/6.5mm-264-153-gr-a-tip-match#!/

Depending on what you're shooting, the consistency, not necessarily the BC may make it a better choice than the 147 ELD-M. We'll have to wait for some more range reports on these A-Tips, but what I've read so far has been really positive in how consistent they are, which has generally been the downside to Hornady bullets. If you're shooting out ELR distances, it may be a statistically significant difference. Under, probably not worth the $. A-Tips are also supposedly easy to load/not picky/tolerate jump. No first-hand on that, just reading. I'll be ordering some soon enough once I get my reloading room re-setup post-move.

Yeah I’m waiting to hear reports on the A tips. They’re quite a bit of shillings aren’t they?

 

[charnicus]

Rich has two reamers. The first put the OAL at 2.86". Then he came out with a second that put 147's at 2.90" for the folks using binderless AICS mags. My Smith and I figured we could go to 2.98" so cutting another 30 thou out, and then jumping 20 thou still gives 70 thou of erosion.

Glad you brought this up. Need to check with Patriot to see what one they planned on renting. Had no idea there were two reamers. Probably worth it just to buy it.

Did you mean to say 2.89?

 

[ormandj]

Yeah I’m waiting to hear reports on the A tips. They’re quite a bit of shillings aren’t they?

$0.75/each for both of the 6.5mm weights, currently. $0.64 if you buy from a less ripoff prone supplier. Expensive, either way you look at it, but if you're playing the ELR game, might be worth it to you.

 

[charnicus]

$0.75/each for both of the 6.5mm weights, currently. $0.64 if you buy from a less ripoff prone supplier. Expensive, either way you look at it, but if you're playing the ELR game, might be worth it to you.

Fuck that’s cheaper than flatlines or cutting edge.

 

[charnicus]

No.

His second reamer is the 6.5 SST II. The reamer set is $400. Not sure what is stopping someone from sending a dummy round to JGS and paying less than half that. Here's a screenshot of the longer FB.

Won’t the 2.98 be too long for mags though?

I guess you pay for not waiting? Lol

 

[charnicus]

Yes. An accurate mag (Short Mag) is 2.950 COAL. Here's an AI mag with the plates removed. Let me look back at some of my msgs with Rich and see what he said that Gen II reamer seats them at. I went through all of this with my Smith with dummy rounds and mags. I remember that I could throat it out 30 it so and he was looking at throating his out 60 or so with a BDL.

What’s the average length of your dummy rounds?

 

[charnicus]

In a binderless AI mag at 2.93" COAL

That looks promising!