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I've searched and searched and read everything that I can but I cannot decide. With so many great choices its hard to pick when the wait times are a huge factor.

Silencerco Sparrow

OSS RAD 22

Deadair Mask

Thunderbeast 22

Help!!!!
 
I have a gen 1 Element and Sparrow SS, wish I would have bought two Sparrows.

If I were to do it again, prolly go TBAC.
 
Depends I suppose. I have 5 22LR cans. I also have 3 kids. I keep one can on a Ruger Charger Takedown in my truck. I keep another on a ruger 22/45 in my backpack. One each on mine and the kids trainer rifles.
 
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Hate cleaning my sparrow, monocores also suck at first round pop.

Last 22 can I got was a toss-up between the TBAC takedown and the Dead Air Mask as the feature sets were pretty equal to me. Mask went on sale in local dealer's stocked inventory, solved that problem.
 
Why the TBAC? and why would you buy it over the sparrow?

TBAC makes a good can, I have a 30P-1 and 30PSS.

Be sure which ever you get it is easy to take apart and core made of stainless, they get nasty. One of the reasons I went with the Sparrow, drop the mono into the dip or ultrasonic and done. The Element is a PITA to clean.
 
I did sound testing on a few just before summer. Since I don't shoot pistols, I decided to keep my Sparrow and sold the Mask I had ordered as soon as it came in. I tested several, some sucked, the only other one that was close to the Sparrow was the Sig. I hate to say that, but it's hard to argue with the meter.
 
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I went with the OSS rad..... now the wait begins......


clean vs dirty. so the OSS tech does work and its was more affordable.
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clean vs dirty. so the OSS tech does work and its was more affordable.

Not sure how being dirty equates to effectiveness of a can, but w/e.

Interesting k-baffle CTA (click-to-assemble) design, but is the first blast chamber vented to the outside of the baffle stack? It is confusing to me. Every CTA can I've seen (until now) had keeping the propellant gases away from the tube as their primary design idea so the can was easy to take apart and clean without carbon locking the stack to the tube. If it is vented, this design allows carbon and lead debris to build up on the inner wall of the tube, where the CTA cups ride on their ridges.

When you get this suppressor be sure to update us on how cleaning goes and/or if there are any carbon locking problems with the baffles.

thanks for the pic
 
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Not sure how being dirty equates to effectiveness of a can, but w/e.

Interesting k-baffle CTA (click-to-assemble) design, but is the first blast chamber vented to the outside of the baffle stack? It is confusing to me. Every CTA can I've seen (until now) had keeping the propellant gases away from the tube as their primary design idea so the can was easy to take apart and clean without carbon locking the stack to the tube. If it is vented, this design allows carbon and lead debris to build up on the inner wall of the tube, where the CTA cups ride on their ridges.

When you get this suppressor be sure to update us on how cleaning goes and/or if there are any carbon locking problems with the baffles.

thanks for the pic

Who knows. it might work well.



 
I've searched and searched and read everything that I can but I cannot decide. With so many great choices its hard to pick when the wait times are a huge factor.

Silencerco Sparrow

OSS RAD 22

Deadair Mask

Thunderbeast 22

Help!!!!

Have the Liberty Regulator. An excellent can. Give them a look. Have a Q El Camino sitting waiting now, for about another 5-6 months.
 
The dealer in my area had a couple of special deals on last fall and last month. If you bought a Sig suppressor, Sig would pay for the tax stamp. I was wanting a few .22LR suppressors anyway and it was a no-brainer to buy the Sig SRD22X. Along with a couple of 9mm cans, I got three SRD22X cans.

I like them so much that I got three more in jail now after Sig had their special on last month.

When the ultrasonic cleaner is working, I put the baffles in the tank and let them sit for about an hour. They come out nice and clean. After the ultrasonic cleaner broke down, I put the baffles in the Frankford Arsenal case tumbler with some citric acid (lemishine) and a couple of squirts of Dawn. They came out just as clean as they did from the US cleaner.

The range that I usually shoot at has a rifle house that is closed except for the downrange side and surrounding berms. So any sound is reverberated back to the shooter. With that said, even the subsonic makes a tiny bit of noise.

The first time I took the SRD22X to the wide open spaces and my friend tried it on his rifle, he pulled the trigger and the only sound was "click." BTW, he was shooting CCI standard velocity.

I was so taken aback that I asked him if he really did fire a shot. Yes he did. The only sound that the rifle made was click while we heard the ringing of steel down range.

I have one on the end of my Brownding Buckmark with 5 1/2" Tactical Solutions barrel. With it on the end of the pistol, you would think it would be really muzzle-heavy but it's not. When I aim the pistol to shoot, I don't notice the can on the end because it's that light.

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So I highly recommend the SRD22X.
 
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I have a Remington 541 (don't think they're made anymore) and I find it a dandy.
I've handled the Ruger American Rifle in .22 lr and like what I saw.
The CZ 452 (I think) looks to be a good rifle. CZ has an excellent name.
Don't know what's available in Canada; there are fair amounts of old Mossburg .22 bolt guns that were used as trainers in the old days here.
 
Anyone have a silencerco Spectre II? Any good?

The 1st 22RF suppressor I bought was a SWR Spectre II; only reason I got interested in a RF can was because I'd just built myself a really nice trainer on a Stiller 2500XR action, Krieger sendero .22RF blank, Manners T4A Elite Tactical, Jewell HVR, and Athlon Cronus 4.5-29X56 scope. I've had nothing but good experiences with the Spectre II, on that Stiller and later on a couple of CMP 40X/XBs that jelrod converted into repeaters, and that I barreled with Benchmark & Lilja bbls.

When I bought a VGW V-22 action and started in on building it for myself, I decided to get a TBAC 22TD, if for no other reason than to be able to have a suppressor on more than one of my comp rifles at a time. Over the span of several years, I've found that both the Spectre II & 22TD are very quiet, with the Spectre II having a slightly noticeable 1st round pop when compared side-by-side with the 22TD. I had no idea that this was the case until one evening while shooting down an old concrete feed alley in our old abandoned feedlot - it's lined on both sides with concrete bunks, and they really reflect any sound back to the shooter, especially when shooting prone. So, I'd guess that, when fired out in the open, it's not very noticeable, if it's even possible to detect it.

The accuracy out of these pretty good rifles has been excellent with both cans - right up to the point where the 22TD rolled off my bench top onto the concrete alley surface, a drop of about 3'. Since then, it's been causing groups to open up, and it's doing it to roughly the same extent on all three of my V-22s. I can't see any damage, so I took it apart and cleaned it down to bare metal, then tested it again, and got the same results. Called to get a RMA, sent it in, and they've looked it over, and are going to test on one of their rifles to see what they find. If you look at the attached target photo, you can see how much difference there is with SK Rifle Match (known good lot) with & w/o the can on the bottom crosshair target. First three shots were fired at 50yds with the 22TD attached to a new Krieger #4 sporter bbl I'd just done for a V-22. I removed the can and fired the last 7rds out of the magazine, as noted beside that crosshair. The other three types of ammo were fired w/o the suppressor attached, but I'd seen the same sort of dispersion with all three types of ammo out of the other two V-22s I own. Odd - hope the guys at TBAC can figure it out.
 

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That is what I said once upon a time. LOL

Yep, I remember when I thought 2 308 cans were enough.

Sorry to derail.

I bought my first 2 cans January 2017, a light weight 30 cal for hunting and bolt guns, and a heavier full auto rated 30 cal can for AR abuse. Thought those would be all that I need. I got them in January 2018. I currently have 6 more in jail.... haha
 
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Sorry to derail.

I bought my first 2 cans January 2017, a light weight 30 cal for hunting and bolt guns, and a heavier full auto rated 30 cal can for AR abuse. Thought those would be all that I need. I got them in January 2018. I currently have 6 more in jail.... haha


Exactly. Yo think you'll jsut move one can around and be good. then you find you need certain cans with certain specs.....like the Sandman K, doesn't make much sense on paper but shooting pistols SBR's without something on the end isn't pleasant. No sense in paying SBR prices just to hang another 6in on it anyways.

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I did sound testing on a few just before summer. Since I don't shoot pistols, I decided to keep my Sparrow and sold the Mask I had ordered as soon as it came in. I tested several, some sucked, the only other one that was close to the Sparrow was the Sig. I hate to say that, but it's hard to argue with the meter.

So, are you saying the sparrow with a rifle doesn't suffer from the first round pop? I'm in the process of figuring out what I want to buy. This info would be very helpful.
 
So, are you saying the sparrow with a rifle doesn't suffer from the first round pop? I'm in the process of figuring out what I want to buy. This info would be very helpful.

Not saying that. I've owned the Sparrow for several years and I don't think the first round pop is any worse that others I've tried(but I haven't tried all .22 rimfire suppressors). I watched a test of the Mask and on a rifle(the only thing I shoot) there wasn't an advantage to spending the money for it. If I didn't have a Sparrow, I'd consider the Mask. Information overload is a real thing nowadays. Spend wisely, but don't overthink.
 
Not saying that. I've owned the Sparrow for several years and I don't think the first round pop is any worse that others I've tried(but I haven't tried all .22 rimfire suppressors). I watched a test of the Mask and on a rifle(the only thing I shoot) there wasn't an advantage to spending the money for it. If I didn't have a Sparrow, I'd consider the Mask. Information overload is a real thing nowadays. Spend wisely, but don't overthink.

Thanks. I probably watched the same video last night. I'm going with the Mask, it is $70 less then the sparrow and on a pistol test it showed significantly less muzzle flash and pop vs. the sparrow. I will use it on a rifle anyway, so likely doesn't matter. But it is cheaper and seems to be as good of a product as sparrow. Maybe even a little better depending who you ask and what video you watched.

Here is the video if anyone is interested.

 
Thanks. I probably watched the same video last night. I'm going with the Mask, it is $70 less then the sparrow and on a pistol test it showed significantly less muzzle flash and pop vs. the sparrow. I will use it on a rifle anyway, so likely doesn't matter. But it is cheaper and seems to be as good of a product as sparrow. Maybe even a little better depending who you ask and what video you watched.

Here is the video if anyone is interested.


I would buy one for the same reasons if I didn't already own the Sparrow.
 
I have 2 sparrows, a spectre II and an OSS Rad on the way. I have a thread protector for the monocores and I clean them with brass juice and ss pins. They come out looking like new. Also clean the Spectre baffles in the tumbler. I honestly dint notice much difference between the 2 in performance. I got the Rad for my P90 and five seven pistol mainly
 
For .22 cal I have a Liberty Kodiak TL and an Innovative Arms Apex. I purchased the Apex as my first suppressor, it works fine but I don’t use it that much. The Kodiak TL is a workhorse that has seen at least 15K rounds of CCI standard velocity since I got it in 2014. I took it apart to clean it recently, the first baffle in the monocore had 1/4” of lead built up. I have it mounted on my 4.5” AR .22 SBR, probably my favorite gun.

I have a CZ 452 LH American that I use as a trainer. I would like to have it threaded so I can run a suppressor, but I haven’t done anything about it yet.
 

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