Ahead of tinder box Virginia gun rally, Trump says Constitution under attack
USA-GUNS/RALLY (PIX):Ahead of tinder box Virginia gun rally, Trump says Constitution under attack
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Gotta pander to all the pussies and soccer moms.
Drive safe me nuts hearing men talk about not liking his twitter or his crass comments. God knows what the women are saying. “He so mean why he so mean”. Emotional driven creatures
So he can’t really tell it like it is.
Esp when there’s the big possibility antifa will false flag shoot it up.
How many antifa leftists have shot places up? A ton.
"That rally proved a critical moment in the rise of the "alt-right," a loose alignment of fringe groups centered on white nationalism and emboldened by Trump's 2016 election."
I always wondered how the "alt right" was Trump's fault. There we have it. The people who write this mess. ?
I always wondered how the "alt right" was Trump's fault. There we have it. The people who write this mess. ?
He said something. What is he supposed to do?
Well, for starters he could uphold some of his campaign promises, most notably the one about the assault on the 2A being over and blah blah. He could have had a lot of influence on doing something positive for the community when the republicans held everything but absolutely nothing happened. Hell, to be honest, I’m not sure the assault on the 2A has ever been as bad as it is right now. Maybe we are all just all jacked up thinking it’s worse than it is, but I don’t remember it being this bad even under Obama.
Well then your memory is short. What do you think “fast and furious” was about? It was about creating a situation where they were going to make a case to restrict firearms sales. They fucked up and got caught.
Using the ATF no less to violate federal laws. And no one goes to prison. And short memory americans are why it gets to happen. But hey.....russians......
Do you know why federally nothing got done during the Kenyan presidency?
Do you need a civics class? Maybe some School House Rock? The president doesn't write legislation. The "legislature" has abdicated their jobs to bureaucracy. The unelected bureaucracy can't be held accountable for their actions.
This is a state thing now and the fed has little that they can do about it. Do you think that the ATF is going to take the state of Virginia to court? They are manned by communists!! Nevermind that nothing can be done until it's actually passed into law.
Do you need a civics class? Maybe some School House Rock? The president doesn't write legislation. The "legislature" has abdicated their jobs to bureaucracy. The unelected bureaucracy can't be held accountable for their actions.
This is a state thing now and the fed has little that they can do about it. Do you think that the ATF is going to take the state of Virginia to court? They are manned by communists!! Nevermind that nothing can be done until it's actually passed into law.
First, right now it’s a State issue and the Federal government can’t get involved UNTIL the state does something.
If federal .gov deems the state has infringed on a constitutional right they can have the AG file suit or join a suit against the state.
Second, if Trump makes the statement that he is with the 2a crowd before the rally and something unspeakable happens then the dems will paint him up and down with it.
So there is no upside to him doing or saying too much until after this is over.
I do believe Trump made a statement about Virginia counties leaving to join West Virginia. This may be a good option as it shows the left they can just flat out loose power from counties join adjacent constitutional alined state.
He, Trump, also stated that this is what you get when you put Dems in charge when you vote them into office.
Hate to say this but, had Republicans/Conservatives/Libertarians got off their asses and voted then none of this would be happening.
Now for the ones that did vote, they are stuck cleaning up this mess caused by laziness of others. ?
Stand strong
Don’t back down
Be vigilant and aware.
If federal .gov deems the state has infringed on a constitutional right they can have the AG file suit or join a suit against the state.
Second, if Trump makes the statement that he is with the 2a crowd before the rally and something unspeakable happens then the dems will paint him up and down with it.
So there is no upside to him doing or saying too much until after this is over.
I do believe Trump made a statement about Virginia counties leaving to join West Virginia. This may be a good option as it shows the left they can just flat out loose power from counties join adjacent constitutional alined state.
He, Trump, also stated that this is what you get when you put Dems in charge when you vote them into office.
Hate to say this but, had Republicans/Conservatives/Libertarians got off their asses and voted then none of this would be happening.
Now for the ones that did vote, they are stuck cleaning up this mess caused by laziness of others. ?
Stand strong
Don’t back down
Be vigilant and aware.
The president does not control what is done at the state level. The president is the not the emperor and can not do much all on his own. The republican party wasted an opportunity to get anything done during their super majority.
It wasn't worse in 1994 when they passed the first assault weapons ban? It wasn't worse under Obama when that administration and Bloomberg were running around paying democrats to pass gun control laws in other states?
How exactly did you think Trump was going to end the Democrats endless assault on the second amendment? Pass a law. ?
? Maybe he should pass a law that said "the peoples right to keep and bear shall not be infringed." Surely that would work. Right?
The president does not control what is done at the state level. The president is the not the emperor and can not do much all on his own. The republican party wasted an opportunity to get anything done during their super majority.
It wasn't worse in 1994 when they passed the first assault weapons ban? It wasn't worse under Obama when that administration and Bloomberg were running around paying democrats to pass gun control laws in other states?
How exactly did you think Trump was going to end the Democrats endless assault on the second amendment? Pass a law. ?
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The president does not control what is done at the state level. The president is the not the emperor and can not do much all on his own. The republican party wasted an opportunity to get anything done during their super majority.
It wasn't worse in 1994 when they passed the first assault weapons ban? It wasn't worse under Obama when that administration and Bloomberg were running around paying democrats to pass gun control laws in other states?
How exactly did you think Trump was going to end the Democrats endless assault on the second amendment? Pass a law. ?
Do you guys read? My comments about him not doing anything specifically stated that nothing, absolutely nothing was done to further 2A rights when the republicans held everything. I’m not singling out the issues going on in VA, but I am referring to what didn’t happen when they had full control and the fact that Trumps own words were that the assault on the 2A was over. Do you feel like that is the case? I sure as hell don’t. Can the president act alone on making law? No, of course not, as mentioned above. But, he sure as hell can rally some support for someone to introduce or get behind something when they control the house, the senate and the executive. But we didn’t see any of that did we? Quite the opposite. That’s my point. Then again, I should probably cut him some slack because he has been fighting all this other bullshit since he has been in office. So, there is that.
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No one reads nor listens anymore...there is no compromise and everyone, Left and Right, Liberal and Conservative, has their Mind set and nothing will change it. We all shout louder and louder and shake our heads "No!* and hear not a fucking thing. We all have all the answers and background we need and anyone who thinks otherwise is a dick head.
The Republic is in decline and we will not vote our way out of this in my opinion.
As my parting thought to the coming events in Virginia and everywhere else I want to say that I hope we can keep our gun Rights and keep the Constitution without violence. Please everyone stay safe and sane. And good luck to all attending the Rally on Monday.
VooDoo
The Republic is in decline and we will not vote our way out of this in my opinion.
As my parting thought to the coming events in Virginia and everywhere else I want to say that I hope we can keep our gun Rights and keep the Constitution without violence. Please everyone stay safe and sane. And good luck to all attending the Rally on Monday.
VooDoo
I'm a Trump supporter and will vote for him again. But let's not kid ourselves. Trump is not particularly pro-gun. He says what he thinks we want to hear. A truly pro-2nd Amendment President would not have done the following, to name a few:
*Supports Red Flag laws ("let's take the guns first, then go to court" he stated)
*Bans bump stocks to appease the media
*Nominates an anti-gun bureaucrat to head the ATF
*Appoints an Attorney General (Barr) who supported and still supports the "Assault Weapons Ban"
*Shows willingness to consider universal background checks
*Gives the time of day to Pelosi and Schumer and says he is interested in discussing their gun control proposals
*Says politicians are "too afraid of the NRA" but he is not
I'm sure there are other instances I'm forgetting where Trump shows his true colors regarding gun control. Of course the leftist Dems are 100X worse, no one disputes that. But I'm not putting on blinders just because Trump is a Republican and says things we like to hear.
*Supports Red Flag laws ("let's take the guns first, then go to court" he stated)
*Bans bump stocks to appease the media
*Nominates an anti-gun bureaucrat to head the ATF
*Appoints an Attorney General (Barr) who supported and still supports the "Assault Weapons Ban"
*Shows willingness to consider universal background checks
*Gives the time of day to Pelosi and Schumer and says he is interested in discussing their gun control proposals
*Says politicians are "too afraid of the NRA" but he is not
I'm sure there are other instances I'm forgetting where Trump shows his true colors regarding gun control. Of course the leftist Dems are 100X worse, no one disputes that. But I'm not putting on blinders just because Trump is a Republican and says things we like to hear.
Let's not allow our frustration and emotions cloud our judgement.
We defend the Constitution. Period. Vote as you see fit.
VA attendees: Head on a swivel.
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We defend the Constitution. Period. Vote as you see fit.
VA attendees: Head on a swivel.
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United we stand. Divided we fall. Make sure you are in a place with the right people when the divide begins. Its over. Move to the country buy some property where you can grow a garden. "Come out of her my people"
Read this. Its a short read. John Glubb Fate of Empires. We are due for a reset.
Read this. Its a short read. John Glubb Fate of Empires. We are due for a reset.
"Do you guys read?" ??? Please gather your thoughts and think about what is happening, understanding that government is full of different parties with different agendas.
All those nevertumpers and republicans are sure behind the president aren't they? Yea, he sure could have rallied support for anything. All those politicians love him so much. Repealing Obamacare would be a breeze if he just got behind it. Wouldn't it? ?
Again, what law do you think would end the democrats endless assault on the second amendment? Did you ever think they would get enough politicians on board to repel the NFA? ??? Have fun in dream land.
He is probably working on what he thinks he can actually get done. A good executive pushes things aside that he knows he can't get done. Sure would be nice to remove all 2A restrictions, but here in the real world we have to deal with what we have. What we had was only two years to get anything done because a bunch of apathetic fucks sat home during the midterms. Then we would have had a chance to expose more republicans that are voting against us.
I don't think Trump's idea of an end of the war on the 2A is the same as yours. You need to understand your translation of what he meant might be different than his. He is a New York Fud.
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It’s hard to get the hearing protection act and easing of 2a infringements in the middle of mass shooting and what not.
There is a political cost to that.
Just think about how the dems would paint that picture and the media more than happy to flood the airways with it.
I want all these infringements removed and unfettered access to things that should not be regulated, but I am realistic about it as well.
Trump has his hands full with the deep state and betrayals from within.
He has done enough good that I can be patient while he gets to it.
Just how I see it.
There is a political cost to that.
Just think about how the dems would paint that picture and the media more than happy to flood the airways with it.
I want all these infringements removed and unfettered access to things that should not be regulated, but I am realistic about it as well.
Trump has his hands full with the deep state and betrayals from within.
He has done enough good that I can be patient while he gets to it.
Just how I see it.
I did read what you wrote. But I also saw that in the first two weeks of November 2016 that Trump was on an island by himself.
When did you realize that?
Indeed. I knew about this problem way before 2016. I’ll leave it at that. I’m glad people are waking up.
There lies the issue, people basically asking for permission no matter who the overlords are. My God given rights need no permission from the likes of lowly men no matter who is in office. Nobody ever said anything about me wanting or thinking they would repeal the NFA or the likes. But no, as I see it he has done nothing to do anything positive for our rights. Will I vote for him again? You damn skippy I will for reasons other than the 2A but that’s getting off topic.
PS, a good executive makes shit happen and doesn’t need to view things as what I might be able to get done with so and so’s help, they just do it. They don’t ask permission, or lobby for help, they just make stuff happen. Or as you said, pushes for stuff they know they can accomplish. I assure that there have been windows of opportunity to wear the so called 4D chess could have been used to expand some 2A rights but the decision was made not to. Good thing I’m not voting for him solely based on this issue.
Trump is an opportunist, his opinion changes to suit his agenda. He is not a man of principle but rather a man driven by the limelight. If it makes political sense to be pro gun, he will. Likewise if it benefits him to take an anti-gun stance, bet your house he will.
Shit....you must be young bucks. You shoulda seen the 70s, 80’s, and 90s. You want to talk about people being afraid to exercise our freedoms? We are LIGHT YEARS ahead of where we were back then. We have it better now than at any other point in my life.
The danger is, it can all be lost relatively quick. But we the people, are more connected and wise to their shit that ever. It is my belief that they’ve taken off the mask, and have over estimated their position. I am hopeful some things get set right; and that should have never been allowed to get this way. Time will tell.
Until then, keep your foot on the gas.
Young buck....
How I wish that were true.
You are correct in the 80’s were worse.
90’s were nothing to write home about either.
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After watching that video in the other thread I have little hope.
How I wish that were true.
You are correct in the 80’s were worse.
90’s were nothing to write home about either.
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After watching that video in the other thread I have little hope.
you guys think the president has way more power than he actually has.
with all the swamp creatures undermining trump, it’s amazing he has been able to do anything.
scotus appointments, doing away with nafta, building the wall, and the trade deal with china.....look at the economy under him-i sure hope you haters pulled your money out of the market.
corruption runs so damn deep, it is way worse than i ever thought but at least they are showing their hand. scary to see how far gone it is. but at least folks are waking up.
trump wasnt my guy either. i cant believe he has done as well as he has. for those of you saying he is an opportunist.....well his actions havent reflected that since he’s been in office.
with all the swamp creatures undermining trump, it’s amazing he has been able to do anything.
scotus appointments, doing away with nafta, building the wall, and the trade deal with china.....look at the economy under him-i sure hope you haters pulled your money out of the market.
corruption runs so damn deep, it is way worse than i ever thought but at least they are showing their hand. scary to see how far gone it is. but at least folks are waking up.
trump wasnt my guy either. i cant believe he has done as well as he has. for those of you saying he is an opportunist.....well his actions havent reflected that since he’s been in office.
I see this as working well in our favour once he finally gets it through his thick head that trying to appease the left wing/communists/Anti everything crowd isn't going to help him any and they will still attack him.
Perhaps this whole impeachment business may keep him a bit more interested in keeping his voting base happy..... finally.
Don't fret. The NRA gave 36 million to Trump to combat Gun Control. If there's one thing Trump understands is you don't kill the Golden Goose. Donald will suck that teat dry. Just make sure O'l Wayne doesn't rob the bank before it happens.
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