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The OFFICIAL 'Wuhan' Coronavirus outbreak information and tracking thread. NARRATIVE CHANGE. "Endemic, just like the cold". Cuomo regrets lockdown.

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Man Charged with Terroristic Threats for Allegedly Coughing on Food Store Employee and Telling Her He Has Coronavirus

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For Immediate Release:
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March 24, 2020
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- Gurbir S. Grewal, Attorney General
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Man Charged with Terroristic Threats for Allegedly Coughing on Food Store Employee and Telling Her He Has Coronavirus
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TRENTON – Attorney General Gurbir S. Grewal announced that criminal charges were filed today against a man who allegedly coughed on a food store employee in Manalapan, N.J., and told the woman that he has the coronavirus.
George Falcone, 50, of Freehold, N.J., was charged today by complaint-summons with the following criminal offenses:
  • Terroristic Threats (3rd Degree)
  • Obstructing Administration of Law or Other Governmental Function (4th degree)
  • Harassment (Petty Disorderly Persons Offense)
The incident occurred at about 6:30 p.m. on Sunday, March 22, at the Wegmans on US Highway 9. The employee was concerned that Falcone was standing too close to her and an open display of prepared foods, so she requested that he step back as she covered the food. Instead, Falcone allegedly stepped forward to within 3 feet of her, leaned toward her, and purposely coughed. He allegedly laughed and said he was infected with the coronavirus. Falcone subsequently told two other employees they are lucky to have jobs.
A detective of the Manalapan Police Department was working a security detail at the store and approached Falcone, who allegedly refused to cooperate or provide his name or driver’s license. After approximately 40 minutes, Falcone identified himself and was permitted to leave. Following additional investigation, summonses were issued today which will require Falcone to appear in court at a later date.
The case will be prosecuted by the Division of Criminal Justice within the Attorney General’s Office. Attorney General Grewal thanked the Manalapan Police Department and the Monmouth County Prosecutor’s Office for their strong response to the incident and investigation leading to today’s charges.
“These are extremely difficult times in which all of us are called upon to be considerate of each other— not to engage in intimidation and spread fear, as alleged in this case,” said Attorney General Grewal. “We must do everything we can to deter this type of conduct and any similar conduct that harms others during this emergency. Just as we are cracking down on bias offenses and those who use the pandemic to fuel hatred and prejudice, we vow to respond swiftly and strongly whenever someone commits a criminal offense that uses the coronavirus to generate panic or discord.”
“Exploiting people’s fears and creating panic during a pandemic emergency is reprehensible. In times like these, we need to find ways to pull together as a community instead of committing acts that further divide us,” said Monmouth County Prosecutor Christopher J. Gramiccioni.
“I commend the officers and detectives involved in this case for bringing criminal charges against the individual responsible for causing additional stress to the employees and patrons of Wegmans during these unprecedented times,” said Manalapan Police Chief Michael Fountain. “It sickens me to think an individual would lower their basic human standards during a time of crisis such as we are experiencing. As evident by these charges, law enforcement will not tolerate individuals breaking the law and placing others in fear during an already tense situation.”
Third-degree charges carry a sentence of three to five years in state prison and a fine of up to $15,000, while fourth-degree charges carry a sentence of up to 18 months in prison and a fine of up to $10,000. Petty disorderly persons offenses carry a sentence of up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000.
The charges are merely accusations and the defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Defense Attorney: Undetermined.
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https://www.nj.gov/oag/newsreleases20/pr20200324b.html
 
Fuck the Wuhan wild animal market and lack of hygene , its alien space shit that manages to survive the extremes of space and rentry into atmosphere ,yet gets killed by alcohol wipe.

''Wickramasinghe is an internationally respected Sri Lankan polymathmatical scientist in his 81st year, who has maintained since his days at Cambridge in the early 1970’s that viruses transmit more or less constantly to earth from space and infect our planet’s fauna. ''
 
According to this article, 77% of the Coronavirus cases are in counties, throughout the country, that voted for HRC in 2016. On the other hand, only 19% of the cases show up in counties that voted for Trump.

I have my own theories about that but think that the TOS on this forum would prevent me from expressing them.

Submitted here so you can draw your own conclusions.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/partisan-reaction-uneven-covid-spread-125700500.html
 
Observation:
All of those deserted areas, way off the paved roads, no cell phone service, where we long distance shoot, in my AO now have people "camping" there.. The majority are not setup for long term camping. Small cars, overloaded, few provisions, kids, dogs, etc..... Going to get interesting when they run out of provisions and are way up in the National Forest... Still have more cold weather and snow in next weeks forecast... And it's a given they will be the first to overload the small local hospital... Having refugees in the AO is a bit unsettling.

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Taliban harnesing their ample heroin lab resources taking covid19 head on . Taliban CDC is work on cooking up heroin vacine but till that is ready PKM will do just fine. The finest suicide bombers from Kandahar will be sent to the medical frontlines to help the sick. :eek:


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It's scary plotting the number of cases per day and projecting it out. NJ's reported cases have been increasing at a super consistent exponential rate (R^2 = 0.98). Should see 10k cases by 3/24. 100k by 3/29
I know this was predicted back 10 days ago, but I think the math is off just a little bit.

3/27 NJ has roughly 9k cases. I dont see the 100k cases coming, maybe because of all of the restrictions put on movement of people it slowed it down some.
 
I know this was predicted back 10 days ago, but I think the math is off just a little bit.

3/27 NJ has roughly 9k cases. I dont see the 100k cases coming, maybe because of all of the restrictions put on movement of people it slowed it down some.
Yes, it's definitely been interesting to track. The restrictions are definitely making a difference. I hope that's why it's not increasing so fast. Though lack of enough tests and capacity to test people probably has something to do with it.
 
Yes, it's definitely been interesting to track. The restrictions are definitely making a difference. I hope that's why it's not increasing so fast. Though lack of enough tests and capacity to test people probably has something to do with it.


Going to say this... According to a scientific report made available earlier in February, it is stated that coronaviruses are especially large and heavy viruses as opposed to something like measles, therefore, coronavirus infections, including influenza, are primarily transmitted by respiratory droplets, which are propelled by the acts of coughing, sneezing, or simply talking. Without the droplets themselves as the transport vector, the viruses drift towards the ground very quickly. This is why face masks, both surgical masks and industrial grade N95's, are ESSENTIAL to preventing community spread. Surgical masks are designed to stop droplet scatter and they protect both the wearer from being exposed to droplets in the air, as well as protecting others around them from their own droplets, if they are sick. There is a reason why the wearing of surgical masks are now being REQUIRED in most East Asian countries and this rule may have played a pivotal role in stopping the main epidemic in Wuhan and Hubei. That is also why it had been SPECIFICALLY emphasized for people to maintain SIX FEET away from each other. If enough people who do not have to travel or take mass transit can stay home or just shop in their own neighborhoods, space aboard trains can be greatly freed up so essential workers like me who have to ride back and forth can maintain even spacing amongst my fellow riders...

Also, less than a week ago, me and several other members here have attested to the possibility that this virus has been here in the USA much earlier than March, and a lot of evidence from scientific sources are also pointing to that. And the massive uptick in cases can be attributed to more available test kits being distributed... HOWEVER, the million dollar question is WHY have the deaths just started ramping up now??? If the virus began spreading here since the end of December, wouldn't emergency rooms and ICU's in all of the metropolitan areas be overwhelmed much earlier? Or does this particular virus smolder in the community like a cigarette butt between couch cushions for quite a while before critical heat builds up and it bursts into flames? Something is not quite adding up... Perhaps a second and deadlier strain has emerged?... I am sure experts all over the world on to this question right now.
 
Just got home from work and reflecting on my day. I intubated 7 patients, 6 of which will most likely turn out to be COVID-19. 3 of the 7 were under 45 years old without significant past medical history. I've been a ER doctor for 22 years. My wife is also a ER doc, and we are somewhat resigned to the idea that one of us will most likely get infected. Where are all those typical gun forum fucking idiots from a few weeks ago who professed their uneducated knowledge about this being no different than the flu or a conspiracy or just hype?? To them I say fuck you, and don't bother taking up a ventilator if you get sick. Please let Darwin do his work.
 
BREAKING:

The Food and Drug Administration has officially APPROVED the use of hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, and other drugs of the quinoline class as well as combinations with the antibiotic azithromycin in treat acute COVID-19 infection all across the US. This notice comes on the heels of the past 12 hours of intense reviews by the global scientific community that have confirmed the effectiveness of the drug combination to treat COVID-19.


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The Food and Drug Administration in Washington,DC has just issued an emergency authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for use against Covid19. The agency allowed for the drugs to be donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalized teen and adult patients with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not available or feasible. The US Department of Health and Human Services announced that Sandoz has donated 30 million doses of hydro-chloroquine to the stockpile and Bayer donated 1 million doses of chloroquine.This is a developing story. More details to follow
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BREAKING:

A local physician who serves a small Orthodox Jewish community in upstate New York has now become the center of attention for the global scientific community as he was among the very first physicians in the United States who immediately began treating acute cases of COVID-19 with the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin combination as soon as the illness was diagnosed. To this date, he has treated over 699 cases in his community which had been one of the many which bore the brunt of the deadly respiratory illness. Out of he 699 treated, not one patient had died or required intubation. Only four cases even needed a hospital visit. Dr. Vladimir Zelenko's spectacular and confirmed success with this drug combination has earned him an audience with doctors and researchers all over the globe as the number of COVID-19 cases exceed 700,000 with deaths nearing 35,000.


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Last Wednesday, we published the success story from Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, a board-certified family practitioner in New York, after he successfully treated 350 coronavirus patients with 100 percent success using a cocktail of drugs: hydroxychloroquine, in combination with azithromycin (Z-Pak), an antibiotic to treat secondary infections, and zinc sulfate. Dr. Zelenko said he saw the symptom of shortness of breath resolved within four to six hours after treatment.


Now, Dr. Zelenko provides updates on the treatment after he successfully treated 699 COVID-19 patients in New York. In an exclusive interview with former New York Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, Dr. Vladmir Zelenko shares the results of his latest study, which showed that out of his 699 patients treated, zero patients died, zero patients intubated, and four hospitalizations.

Dr. Zelenko said the whole treatment costs only $20 over a period of 5 days with 100% success. He defines success as “Not to die.” Dr. Zelenko first posted his Facebook video message last week calling on President Trump to “advise the country that they should be taking this medication.”

A study by the National Institute of Health (NIH) also confirmed some of Dr. Dr. Zelenko’s findings. The study by NIH showed that Zinc supplementation decreases the morbidity of lower respiratory tract infection in pediatric patients in the developing world. A second study also conducted by NIH titled: “In Vitro Antiviral Activity and Projection of Optimized Dosing Design of Hydroxychloroquine for the Treatment of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2),” also showed hydroxychloroquine to be more potent in killing the virus off in vitro (in the test tube and not in the body).


Below is a video of his latest interview explaining the success of the treatment.
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Just got home from work and reflecting on my day. I intubated 7 patients, 6 of which will most likely turn out to be COVID-19. 3 of the 7 were under 45 years old without significant past medical history. I've been a ER doctor for 22 years. My wife is also a ER doc, and we are somewhat resigned to the idea that one of us will most likely get infected. Where are all those typical gun forum fucking idiots from a few weeks ago who professed their uneducated knowledge about this being no different than the flu or a conspiracy or just hype?? To them I say fuck you, and don't bother taking up a ventilator if you get sick. Please let Darwin do his work.


Thank you for your service, as well as others like you on the front lines of this clusterfuck.

This is not "the flu" at all. It is a viral pneumonia on crack... There is a reason why this virus has been given the nomenclature SARS-COV-2. This strain of virus shares almost 88% of it's DNA with the earlier strain of SARS that broke out in Hong Kong and southern China in 2003. It almost seems like COV-2 had originally been COV-1 which went back into the drawing board and re-emerged with slightly less lethality but far more infectious potential and insidiousness of it's mechanism.

By the way, try to get your hands on hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc RIGHT NOW. The FDA has passed emergency authorization of it's use to fight COVID-19. Pass this news to other doctors in your network as well. Refer to post 2,376.

If this post that I make here leads to multiple innocent American lives being saved, I will be more proud of this than almost anything else that I have done.
 
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Thank you for your service, as well as others like you on the front lines of this clusterfuck.

This is not "the flu" at all. It is a viral pneumonia on crack... There is a reason why this virus has been given the nomenclature SARS-COV-2. This strain of virus shares almost 88% of it's DNA with the earlier strain of SARS that broke out in Hong Kong and southern China in 2003. It almost seems like COV-2 had originally been COV-1 which went back into the drawing board and re-emerged with slightly less lethality but far more infectious potential and insidiousness of it's mechanism.

By the way, try to get your hands on hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc RIGHT NOW. The FDA has passed emergency authorization of it's use to fight COVID-19. Pass this news to other doctors in your network as well. Refer to post 2,376.

If this post that I make here leads to multiple innocent American lives being saved, I will be more proud of this than almost anything else that I have done.
Thank you, appreciate your efforts.
 
Just got home from work and reflecting on my day. I intubated 7 patients, 6 of which will most likely turn out to be COVID-19. 3 of the 7 were under 45 years old without significant past medical history. I've been a ER doctor for 22 years. My wife is also a ER doc, and we are somewhat resigned to the idea that one of us will most likely get infected. Where are all those typical gun forum fucking idiots from a few weeks ago who professed their uneducated knowledge about this being no different than the flu or a conspiracy or just hype?? To them I say fuck you, and don't bother taking up a ventilator if you get sick. Please let Darwin do his work.

Thank you for everything that you, your wife, and all the people in the medical profession are doing. I'm sick of hearing those people as well. I was skeptical at first but soon started to realize how bad this really is.
 
Thank you for everything that you, your wife, and all the people in the medical profession are doing. I'm sick of hearing those people as well. I was skeptical at first but soon started to realize how bad this really is.


I was skeptical about this at first too, even as I prepared against the eventual tumult and upheaval of normal life as I knew would be coming... And then I saw the footage coming out of not just Italy, but hospitals right here in the NY region. Perfectly healthy young adults are being swatted like flies by this shit. And even more insidious is the fact that the illness can seem to go away in many people, only to have them suddenly drop dead hours later from massive respiratory failure and respiratory induced cardiac failure. The lungs of these victims literally resemble the lungs of World War I soldiers who had been on the receiving end of a phosgene gas attack. A lot of soldiers would seem fine and try to walk off from the gas's effects, only to fall dead suddenly in the next hour. Post mortem examination revealed that these men had literally drowned in their own liquified lungs... And that is precisely the exact form of damage that we are seeing with COVID-19. Those videos that we had seen from China showing seemingly healthy people dropping in the streets? Now we know what it is.
 
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BREAKING:

The Food and Drug Administration has officially APPROVED the use of hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, and other drugs of the quinoline class as well as combinations with the antibiotic azithromycin in treat acute COVID-19 infection
I'm sorry to say that there is absolutely no credible data in humans to suggest that this is effective. At the moment we only know:
1. Nearly all antivirals have proven ineffective, in the history of medicine.
2. There are two French studies from a researcher with a history of scientific misconduct, neither of which is a randomized controlled trial, both with serious flaws, but claiming benefit.
3. There is a small Chinese randomized controlled trial showing no effect with hydroxychloroquine.

It is very premature to endorse these medications. They are most likely going to turn out to be ineffective or harmful, and should not be used outside of a clinical trial.
 
Also, less than a week ago, me and several other members here have attested to the possibility that this virus has been here in the USA much earlier than March, and a lot of evidence from scientific sources are also pointing to that. And the massive uptick in cases can be attributed to more available test kits being distributed... HOWEVER, the million dollar question is WHY have the deaths just started ramping up now??? If the virus began spreading here since the end of December, wouldn't emergency rooms and ICU's in all of the metropolitan areas be overwhelmed much earlier? Or does this particular virus smolder in the community like a cigarette butt between couch cushions for quite a while before critical heat builds up and it bursts into flames? Something is not quite adding up... Perhaps a second and deadlier strain has emerged?... I am sure experts all over the world on to this question right now.
Yes, there's a very simple explanation. The virus wasn't here that early. It arrived when everyone said it arrived. If you accept that, then the deaths make perfect sense with the growth in cases and the two week incubation period.
 
Thank you for everything that you, your wife, and all the people in the medical profession are doing. I'm sick of hearing those people as well. I was skeptical at first but soon started to realize how bad this really is.
Thanks. I think it is absolutely healthy and normal to be skeptical of anything that the media initially jumps on. I hate the media, their goal is not to portray the truth or accuracy of almost any story they write. This pandemic, now, has nothing to do with the media. It is indeed a once in a lifetime 'bad'.
 
I'm sorry to say that there is absolutely no credible data in humans to suggest that this is effective. At the moment we only know:
1. Nearly all antivirals have proven ineffective, in the history of medicine.
2. There are two French studies from a researcher with a history of scientific misconduct, neither of which is a randomized controlled trial, both with serious flaws, but claiming benefit.
3. There is a small Chinese randomized controlled trial showing no effect with hydroxychloroquine.

It is very premature to endorse these medications. They are most likely going to turn out to be ineffective or harmful, and should not be used outside of a clinical trial.


Reports are still coming in by the minute as we read right now... Refer to Dr. Vladimir Zelenko's program above in post 2,376 for the success report. Confirmed by the National Institute of Health and is the impetus for the FDA's decision in the past couple of hours.
 
Reports are still coming in by the minute as we read right now... Refer to Dr. Vladimir Zelenko's program above in post 2,376 for the success report. Confirmed by the National Institute of Health and is the impetus for the FDA's decision in the past couple of hours.
That's not any kind of evidence. That is one guy saying stuff. There is no way to know if an antiviral works without doing a randomized controlled trial. There are several underway, so we should have more definitive answers soon.
 
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here is a good source.

Well look who the cat dragged in
 
here is a good source.



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That's not any kind of evidence. That is one guy saying stuff. There is no way to know if an antiviral works without doing a randomized controlled trial. There are several underway, so we should have more definitive answers soon.
Have you got any more details than that? Criteria, length of time etc? Just interested
 
Just got home from work and reflecting on my day. I intubated 7 patients, 6 of which will most likely turn out to be COVID-19. 3 of the 7 were under 45 years old without significant past medical history. I've been a ER doctor for 22 years. My wife is also a ER doc, and we are somewhat resigned to the idea that one of us will most likely get infected. Where are all those typical gun forum fucking idiots from a few weeks ago who professed their uneducated knowledge about this being no different than the flu or a conspiracy or just hype?? To them I say fuck you, and don't bother taking up a ventilator if you get sick. Please let Darwin do his work.

Lol, quack!

Which is it, 20 years, or 22 years?

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Sure, what part? Are you asking about the general process or the specific issues with the studies so far?
Mainly curious as to the length of time that the studies are being run for considering how rapidly a treatment is needed but taking into consideration the time periods required for individual trial phases. Due to drugs having already been marketed for other reasons, do the trials still need to go through a Phase I/II or is it completely started from scratch again due to a different use? I'm happy to be told to take a hike and go and look this up at the register myself if these questions are too low level

Issues with the trials would be interesting as well if you're happy to elaborate
 
here is a good source.

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Mainly curious as to the length of time that the studies are being run for considering how rapidly a treatment is needed but taking into consideration the time periods required for individual trial phases. Due to drugs having already been marketed for other reasons, do the trials still need to go through a Phase I/II or is it completely started from scratch again due to a different use? I'm happy to be told to take a hike and go and look this up at the register myself if these questions are too low level

Issues with the trials would be interesting as well if you're happy to elaborate
I would not say there is any fixed length of time, it will depend on the trial design. You would ideally want to follow patients for a few weeks here since it usually takes 7-10 days to become really sick. If you were doing a trial of prophylaxis then obviously that would take longer because you'd have to give it to at-risk patients and wait to see if they got the disease at all or how severe it was.

With HCQ it's not really an issue of Phase 1 or 2, as it is already FDA approved and no one really cares about adding another indication. The real issue is just knowing if it actually works. The vast majority of antiviral drugs that have been tried in humans have failed. There have been thousands of drug candidates and only 90 approved antivirals, covering about a dozen viruses. So the odds are against anyone trying to develop any antiviral. And HCQ has been tried for a bunch of other viruses where it had in vitro activity, including SARS and MERS, but didn't work out because it was too hard to have a dose that worked and yet wasn't toxic.

So knowing that, it becomes important to have high quality data about whether it works. And you are only going to get that from a randomized trial with controls. If you just have some guy saying "I gave all these patients this drug and they were fine," first, you don't have any documentation about them, so it could be made up. You don't know if those people had the disease, or all had a mild form and would have been fine anyway.

Now, this French guy Raoult put out a study saying he'd treated 26 patients and ten controls, and the patients who got HCQ cleared the virus faster. But unfortunately, if you look at this there are some issues. The biggest is that he excluded six of the patients who got HCQ from the final analysis, and it actually looks like they did worse. Three of them died. It also wasn't randomized, so you don't know if they picked sicker patients as controls.

There was a small Chinese study that appears to have been well done (it was a randomized controlled trial) but only had 30 patients. They saw no difference, which means it's very unlikely there is a huge treatment effect. But there may be a small one and we'd need a larger study to know. Those are being done in multiple countries.

The bottom line is that if you know that antiviral therapies usually don't work, you need to have a higher standard of proof before you just start throwing them at people. This is not random red tape. This is a process that has evolved over decades because we've seen that we harm patients when we take shortcuts.
 
Dude, 22 is also "over 20." Maybe relax a little, read more carefully.

Don’t have much respect for a quack that says “F-U” your an idiot because of a difference of opinion, and hope you die (let Darwin do his work). Sorry, calling it as I see it, thats not the kind of doctor I’d ever go to. If he cant remember how many years he’s been practicing medicine, why am I suppose to believe he’s a real doctor?
 
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