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Lets Say Trump Wins In 2020, Then What?

After elections you get 2-3 year shitshow contesting the election + 6-8 more months of 'rona' show
-guns and ammo sales skyrocket
-socialism continues as long as FED is not reigned in
-mandatory chip and 'rona' vaccination
-debt blows past 150% GDP
-chinese exports to US continue to soar
 
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"If Trump wins". This is sad.

A year ago the Trump train would have plowed through the 2020 election and into 24 without slowing down. Anyone dumb enough to step on the tracks and run against him would have been flattened. And now we're going to sit back and let a bunch of communist scum that destroyed an historical record setting economy and example of what Capitalism can do with the right leader, exercise a coup by stealing the election.
Sad.
 
city people flock to suburbs, taking their same shitty politics with them. turning previously red counties purple.
Wonder why city people cant add? 1+1 =2... Different geography,but same vote pattern = same shit they left...
 
"If Trump wins". This is sad.

A year ago the Trump train would have plowed through the 2020 election and into 24 without slowing down. Anyone dumb enough to step on the tracks and run against him would have been flattened. And now we're going to sit back and let a bunch of communist scum that destroyed an historical record setting economy and example of what Capitalism can do with the right leader, exercise a coup by stealing the election.
Sad.

i don’t think the train has slowed down at all. I think what is scaring people is the liberals openly saying they plan on cheating and removing trump regardless of what the “votes show”. I think people feel helpless
 
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75% of POTUS' problems are born out of his own mouth.
And his mouth has had a real bad month. He should not be constantly free styling; he thinks he's good at it, but he's not. But apparently that's all he can do at this point. Seem like all of his TV ads have been pulled off my local TV channels. If so, he must have given up on this state now. Seems POTUS won't listen to anyone else, and he seems to never had an unspoken thought when the recorders are going. Eighteen recorded interview with the WP? I don't get it, what TF was he thinking, that he could befriend them? Like I have said here repeatedly, the race is his and his alone to win or lose. Biden is just barely treading water and my perception as most think he's just and old school idiot who was running in 5th place 6 months ago.
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I completely agree that Trump's ramblings and his failings are his own fault. He has speechwriters which he doesn't seem to use. He has strategists that don't seem to be listened to. He has his twitter which he uses to feed his own ego.

Election is a 2 months from now. Why are there no debates? Simple, Biden sees that a debate can only hurt him. So why do it? He'll win without them.

So what will Trump do to provide confidence to the American people in the next two months?
 
I think a lot of people whose families have historically been Republicans are feeling this too. At least I am. The huge debt is CLEARLY not a concern of either party now. My parents and grandparents who worked hard and always paid their bills must be spinning in their graves. We and our kids are just going to be perpetually screwed by the debt service on Treasury bonds. I think the Social Security system will collapse long before I every retire and get anything back from what I have paid in. And even with a decent job and pretty good heath, we are pretty much living hand to mouth now. I shudder to think what the future might bring for my kids.



75% of POTUS' problems are born out of his own mouth.
And his mouth has had a real bad month. He should not be constantly free styling; he thinks he's good at it, but he's not. But apparently that's all he can do at this point. Seem like all of his TV ads have been pulled off my local TV channels. If so, he must have given up on this state now. Seems POTUS won't listen to anyone else, and he seems to never had an unspoken thought when the recorders are going. Eighteen recorded interview with the WP? I don't get it, what TF was he thinking, that he could befriend them? Like I have said here repeatedly, the race is his and his alone to win or lose. Biden is just barely treading water and my perception as most think he's just and old school idiot who was running in 5th place 6 months ago.
No, 75% of Pres. Trump's problems come out of the sewer pipes that is the lying Left's mouth's. The other 25% are the Globalist that use the Swamp, the lying Left MSM and their useful idiot viewers. If you argue with that, you're one of them.

The best president this country has ever had since Washington. And it has brought out the worst that is in this country that are trying to destroy it.
 
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75% of POTUS' problems are born out of his own mouth.
And his mouth has had a real bad month. He should not be constantly free styling; he thinks he's good at it, but he's not. But apparently that's all he can do at this point. Seem like all of his TV ads have been pulled off my local TV channels. If so, he must have given up on this state now. Seems POTUS won't listen to anyone else, and he seems to never had an unspoken thought when the recorders are going. Eighteen recorded interview with the WP? I don't get it, what TF was he thinking, that he could befriend them? Like I have said here repeatedly, the race is his and his alone to win or lose. Biden is just barely treading water and my perception as most think he's just and old school idiot who was running in 5th place 6 months ago.

How would you suggest his message get out to the people? Will the MSM broadcast any information he wants to get out to the people? You know the answer is they wouldn't. So he adlibs a bit. I like the fact that he eggs on the Demwits. He puts things out just to rile up the Demwits and that's what I like about him.

Maybe the reason his ads aren't seen is that the stations have decided that they won't run his ads.

You're wrong about the race being his to win or lose. He is fighting illegal activities during this election period and people know it. The people don't trust this election. Try to find any canning supplies. Try to buy a freezer. Look at the price of gold and silver. People are expecting the worst and are preparing for it. They know the Demwits are preparing to steal this election along with as many congressional seat and local offices too.

You will see a fight for Democracy after this election. I mean a real fight. Mark my words.
 
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How would you suggest his message get out to the people? Will the MSM broadcast any information he wants to get out to the people? You know the answer is they wouldn't. So he adlibs a bit. I like the fact that he eggs on the Demwits. He puts things out just to rile up the Demwits and that's what I like about him.

Maybe the reason his ads aren't seen is that the stations have decided that they won't run his ads.

You're wrong about the race being his to win or lose. He is fighting illegal activities during this election period and people know it. The people don't trust this election. Try to find any canning supplies. Try to buy a freezer. Look at the price of gold and silver. People are expecting the worst and are preparing for it. They know the Demwits are preparing to steal this election along with as many congressional seat and local offices too.

You will see a fight for Democracy after this election. I mean a real fight. Mark my words.

If Trump does lose a rigged, sham election that the Left has openly said they intend to rig, I hope to hell he doesn't step down. Fuck 'um.
You can't buy shit with fake money, you can't win an election with fake votes.
 
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If Trump does lose a rigged, bullshit election that the Left has openly said they intend to rig, I hope to hell he doesn't step down. Fuck 'um.
You can't buy shit with fake money, you can't win an election with fake votes.

The problem is, he has no Constitutional grounds to stay in office. As a matter of fact, there would be a method to where the leader of the house could assume the office until things are straightened out. Imagine that happening!
 
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The problem is, he has no Constitutional grounds to stay in office. As a matter of fact, there would be a method to where the leader of the house could assume the office until things are straightened out. Imagine that happening!
I understand. But why would we recognize the outcome of a rigged election and follow the protocol when a bunch of criminals commit an illegal coup and overthrew our government? That like giving a convenience store robber a receipt after he robbed you.

I'm not trying to be obtuse but why does one side have to adhere to the rules when the other side doesn't?

As you said, this is total war, don't turn over the keys to the White House to that illegal trash before you go into the battle. Defend it.
 
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I support Candace Owens for 2024.

I despise political dynasty’s. Trump’s kids dont have what it takes, IMAO.

Candace Owens might be OK

To be completely honest you don't know shit from shinola about what any of Trump's kids are capable of, and neither do the rest of us. So stop the pretension that you do.

If one of them runs and is elected, he or she won fair and fucking square. They weren't ordained by the Pope or took the throne in royal succession.

The plural of dynasty is dynasties.
 
Assumptions like this will cost Trump the presidency.

Assumptions like which ones? That there's a significant group of black folks that are sick and tired of being lied to and used by the democrats?

That's no assumption
 
I understand. But why would we recognize the outcome of a rigged election and follow the protocol when a bunch of criminals commit an illegal coup and overthrew our government? That like giving a convenience store robber a receipt after he robbed you.

I'm not trying to be obtuse but why does one side have to adhere to the rules when the other side doesn't?

As you said, this is total war, don't turn over the keys to the White House to that illegal trash before you go into the battle. Defend it.

We would have to take it back is the issue.
 
Biden will win. Sorry, y'all. Personally, I'm focused on his gun laws and how much of it he can get implemented. Meaning, I want to get Republicans in the Senate and Congress. I don't care about the presidency nearly as much. I do not want 2A limited by "no online sales" (which will solve nothing) and other such ridiculous anti-commerce and anti-rights law. The Republican party needs to refresh itself -- focus on fundamentals, recruit and bring in younger talent, and stop being stodgy. Otherwise in the next 12 years there won't be one.
You must be a never trumper

Fuck the republican party. It deserves to be replaced by something much better.
 
I'm a big Trump supporter, and know that a Biden win will have dramatically negative effects on gun rights and ammo restrictions, not to mention about 50 other big negatives. It is literally stunning to me how CBS, CNN, and other anti-conservative propaganda organizations no longer masquerade as news organizations. The gloves are off.
 
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I live in Pittsburgh and the suburbs and rural areas are flooded with trump signs. Problem is our state is carried by Philly, Pittsburgh, and Harrisburg. The entire state is red except in those heavily urban areas. My wife and I receive mail in ballot applications every single day in the mail. I have 24 applications for ballots already. The fraud here is insane
Well then fill them all in with Trump's name and send them in

STOP PLAYING BY THE FUCKING RULES
 
Terrible judgment. We are suffering from a string of presidents with terrible judgment, at least since back to Bush I, the current yahoo included. Before you protest, the guy just gave Bob Woodward 18 interviews. Bad judgment. At some point that matters.
So you saddle the son with the sins of the father?

Just when I thought I'd read the most stupid thing on the internet, you reset the meter.
 
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My crystal ball is cloudy, and so is everyone else's too.

I'm just like everyone else, already fed up to way up there with the poitical advertsing that's all just lies and misrepresentation. Same as it always was, just more of it. It don't need to wade through that crap. I already know who I'm voting for, all the seats in my district, and my mind isn't changing until after I get to vote. Or probably not then, either. Nobody's asking my opinion, so I know my views aren't even being considered by the pollsters or the candidates either. Until then, and after, I'm just covering my and my family's back.

My plan is to step back, and keep an eye on my own personal family perimeter.

If there actually is a need for response there, I'll likely be way too busy to be worrying about what's going on elsewhere.

Maybe we should all start with that.

I just don't have the confidence in any of what's being bellowed from the rooftops to be making any sort of long term, far reaching plans.

K.I.S.S.

If it's serious, it'll be taking awhile, and with better intel and some time to see eye to eye with locals; something more concrete might be seriously considered.

Until then, it's all just piss in the wind...

Take an even strain...

Greg
 
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So you saddle the son with the sins of the father?

Just when I thought I'd read the most stupid thing on the internet, you reset the meter.
I know you fancy yourself a smart guy, but you clearly have trouble reading. Let me set out all of the clauses in my statement:

1: Trump Jr. has bad judgment.
2: All of our presidents going back to at least Bush 1 have had bad judgment.
3: This includes the current President, and evidence of this is his willingness to talk to Bob Woodward so much.
4: Judgment matters.

At no point did I support clause 1 with clause 3. You inferred it, incorrectly. Don Jr. has shown bad judgment all his own. If you would like me to list the ways, I can do so. Hopefully, if you need me to do so, you will be able to work on your reading comprehension a bit and stop being such a dumb shit.
 
Candace Owens might be OK

To be completely honest you don't know shit from shinola about what any of Trump's kids are capable of, and neither do the rest of us. So stop the pretension that you do.

If one of them runs and is elected, he or she won fair and fucking square. They weren't ordained by the Pope or took the throne in royal succession.

The plural of dynasty is dynasties.

thanks for noting my spelling error.
my phone is being sucky and At times makes editing tough. I dont always have the luxury of a computer.

Perhaps you missed my qualifier of IMAO.
you run on pretension all the time, so why call out someone else who does?
i like you, usually agree with you though with a little less vitriol, and dang sir, you might see someone about the stick in your craw.

What have his kids done to show they do? While it would be different than the Bush Dynasty (still cant believe people supported Jeb) I only will support someone I believe in. I actually liked Trump early on due to his not being a swamp dweller and saying stuff like it is.
 
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The problems with the USA Politics are not solved from the top anyways, IMO.
They must be solved at the bottom; which starts with YOUR community, then town, then district, then State.......Take care of those and it matters none who sits in the WH.
Talking about it on SH does jack shit with fixing anything.

Sincerely,
Theis
 
Please proceed
Note that I never said that his actions were illegal or immoral, just bad judgment:

1- His stupid response to the Russia meeting set up.
2- His lack of judgment re high profile affairs.
3- His stupidity in promoting conspiracy theories like with the MSD shooting and bizarro Biden as Pedo shit.

there are more that are arguably stupid, but these inarguably show bad judgment. He seems willing to jump in with any off the wall conspiracy, any attack, any bullshit. He is like his father but without any of the brains or charm. I literally cannot think of a time when he has decided not to lower himself to the occasion.

This Trump is bad enough, and "his son is an awesome twitter troll" isn't what I hope for my future choices.
 
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If Trump wins in November, the protests/riots/destabilization/insurgency continues unabated.
If Biden wins in November, the protests/riots/destabilization/insurgency continues unabated.
 
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Assumptions like which ones? That there's a significant group of black folks that are sick and tired of being lied to and used by the democrats?

That's no assumption

Even if it’s not an assumption (and it is until it’s proven this demographic is heads to the polls to and actually votes for Trump) the thought process may still cause many Trump supporters to not vote; it’s creating complacency.
 
Even if it’s not an assumption (and it is until it’s proven this demographic is heads to the polls to and actually votes for Trump) the thought process may still cause many Trump supporters to not vote; it’s creating complacency.

Where's your evidence of all this complacency?
 
Note that I never said that his actions were illegal or immoral, just bad judgment:

1- His stupid response to the Russia meeting set up.
2- His lack of judgment re high profile affairs.
3- His stupidity in promoting conspiracy theories like with the MSD shooting and bizarro Biden as Pedo shit.

there are more that are arguably stupid, but these inarguably show bad judgment. He seems willing to jump in with any off the wall conspiracy, any attack, any bullshit. He is like his father but without any of the brains or charm. I literally cannot think of a time when he has decided not to lower himself to the occasion.

This Trump is bad enough, and "his son is an awesome twitter troll" isn't what I hope for my future choices.

I think you read too much MSM bullshit, but you do you.
 
I think you read too much MSM bullshit, but you do you.
While I do concede that, per my job, I read just about everything, any serious reading of the news re DJT jr can only lead you to conclude that the media sucks, and he is basically worthless. I think if you surveyed Trump loyalists who are in the know, they would tell you the exact same thing.
 
My opinion is that we will not save the Republic without doing away with The 2 Party stranglehold. George Washington and other founders were dead set against loyalty to the Party as it overrides loyalty to The Nation. And here we are....

Few things in Life are left to a binary choice of one or the other. Can you imagine only 2 firearms manufacturers or two automotive companies or two makers of shooting components? we are fucked until we break the backs of the Demons and get real Representation that is by, for, and of The People. The two current political franchises are in it to make The Franchises rich on the wealth of working people.

VooDoo
 
Yes, I agree the GOP has essentially destroyed its self by deviation from all historical standards of "conservatism" including financial responsibility just to mention one.

Unfortunately, in our current elections system, there is no way for a third party to successfully establish itself on a National level (many states require a third party to have garnered 10% or more of the votes in the preceding election to even get a candidate on the forthcoming ballot), so the system as now established in law can't provide any remedy to the current deadlock as there is now effectively no way to replace the current two parties we are now stuck with. So, we are suck wwith the 2 ugly sisters we now have, and we need to have them get some political cosmetic change surgery to try and fix their 2 ugly mugs becase there isn't any other game in town. And who do you think devised our current system which prevents third parties from breaking into the system? The two of them did, in mutual collaboration, of course.

Its like there is an illegal dual Monopoly on Power.

The problem of course is that if "fix" my party, I slit my own throat by allowing the other total power whilst I reform mine. Thus both parties got to go.

I fought tooth and nail against Trump when it counted--in the primary. Unfortunately, he got the nomination. Call me a hold your nose Trumper or whatever. I'm a "Lock Down The Government" guy. make it so they can't p ass anything. Perfect. As much as my distaste for President Trump, I got two judges I feel pretty good about. (And countless other lower level judges) No way I get those with Hillary. Or Biden.

Play the Long game people. I don't mean to by a bit hyperbolic, but your current BLM/Antifa bears a striking resemblance to the Red Guard.
Even Churchill made a deal with Stalin to stop HItler.


Heh Godwin'd this thread.
 
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My crystal ball is cloudy, and so is everyone else's too.

I'm just like everyone else, already fed up to way up there with the poitical advertsing that's all just lies and misrepresentation. Same as it always was, just more of it. It don't need to wade through that crap. I already know who I'm voting for, all the seats in my district, and my mind isn't changing until after I get to vote. Or probably not then, either. Nobody's asking my opinion, so I know my views aren't even being considered by the pollsters or the candidates either. Until then, and after, I'm just covering my and my family's back.

My plan is to step back, and keep an eye on my own personal family perimeter.

If there actually is a need for response there, I'll likely be way too busy to be worrying about what's going on elsewhere.

Maybe we should all start with that.

I just don't have the confidence in any of what's being bellowed from the rooftops to be making any sort of long term, far reaching plans.

K.I.S.S.

If it's serious, it'll be taking awhile, and with better intel and some time to see eye to eye with locals; something more concrete might be seriously considered.

Until then, it's all just piss in the wind...

Take an even strain...

Greg


I disagree. I was always taught to hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. If you won't start to plan for what may happen, by the time it does happen, you're screwed.

Whether it's a recurrence of the Covid19 virus or civil unrest after the election, you better be planning now.
 
Hi,

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The problems with the USA Politics are not solved from the top anyways, IMO.
They must be solved at the bottom; which starts with YOUR community, then town, then district, then State.......Take care of those and it matters none who sits in the WH.
Talking about it on SH does jack shit with fixing anything.

Sincerely,
Theis

To some extent you are correct, but the president (whomever that may be) will be setting the courts for decades to come. No county commissioner can do that. No governor will affect your life more than this next elected president. Congress critters are always important, but this time, it's the big boss that will determine the direction of our country (at least for the next 4 years).
 
Note that I never said that his actions were illegal or immoral, just bad judgment:

1- His stupid response to the Russia meeting set up.
2- His lack of judgment re high profile affairs.
3- His stupidity in promoting conspiracy theories like with the MSD shooting and bizarro Biden as Pedo shit.

there are more that are arguably stupid, but these inarguably show bad judgment. He seems willing to jump in with any off the wall conspiracy, any attack, any bullshit. He is like his father but without any of the brains or charm. I literally cannot think of a time when he has decided not to lower himself to the occasion.

This Trump is bad enough, and "his son is an awesome twitter troll" isn't what I hope for my future choices.

You're a piece of work.
 
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You're a piece of work.

Yeah, I am a piece of work. Exactly where am I wrong, though? You really think calling political opponents pedophiles is good judgment, or good character? He is a slimy piece of garbage. You think obviously cheating on your wife is good character? Garbage.
 
All of the other recent Presidents have been perfect in every way. Truly we are ruled by saints.
 
All of the other recent Presidents have been perfect in every way. Truly we are ruled by saints.
I think my original comment that got the Pirate so huffy was that we have had Presidents with terrible judgment since at least Bush 1, and that has to stop. Look, I voted for the piece of trash in the White House, and I am fixing to do it again. I'm no "never Trumper." Policy trumps all for me, much as I would prefer just about any Republican to Trump. But that doesn't mean that I have to be so blinkered as to think Trump is the best President since George Washington or that his cretinous spawn is any better.
 
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If Trump wins. The angry mob will get even more angry. The riots will intensify in both scope, and number.

If he loses, the angry mob will feel vindicated, and empowered... so the riots will intensify in both scope, and number.

Sorry, I just don't see an up side other than maybe we will be able to start to fight back, or at least maybe Trump will start to fight back if he wins. Either way, I'm seeing a lot more unrest. Stupid ass leftists done let the hate genie out of the bottle. Not gonna be easy to put that back in.
 
If you drive through Central Texas like Johnson City where Dem. LBJ lived (actually right up the road in Stonewall) there is nothing but Trump signs on fences and gates. Only problem is those are big properties and few voters living on them. Get closer to Austin and the idiot Biden signs are about 50/50.
Went to a wedding last weekend in Fredericksburg. Saw one Biden sign off 71. I think it was a decoy to get someone to pose with it and get plugged. Figure if it was a true supporter then it would have had as many bullet holes as a deer crossing sign.
Chief of police was there. He said if Austin folks come over with their problems, they won’t stand a chance. Told him that I was up from Katy. He remarked that the Sheriff of Fort Bend county won’t even need to come out of ANTIFA was wrong because residents will take care of the problem. He’s not wrong. We’re not Houston
 
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We would have to take it back is the issue.
Thats my point. It's like handing your home over to BLM and then having to fight to get them back out.

This is an attempted coup, not an election.
 
Went to a wedding last weekend in Fredericksburg. Saw one Biden sign off 71. I think it was a decoy to get someone to pose with it and get plugged. Figure if it was a true supporter then it would have had as many bullet holes as a deer crossing sign.
Chief of police was there. He said if Austin folks come over with their problems, they won’t stand a chance. Told him that I was up from Katy. He remarked that the Sheriff of Fort Bend county won’t even need to come out of ANTIFA was wrong because residents will take care of the problem. He’s not wrong. We’re not Houston

I like Fredericksburg. Always felt clean, like being in church. Good place to be married. My aunt and uncle were married at the St. Mary's German Catholic Church there.
 
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Without Trump in office, all these bad actors wouldn’t have exposed themselves to this extent. Trump was the right guy at the right time in 2016. He is for 2020 as well. I am reassured this seeing how much the lifelong politicians and the younger radicals despise him. I feel like most people who dislike Trump do so because of the 24hr smear campaign against him.

Biden is a pedophile by the way.
I don't disagree that he was the right guy in 2016. I'm not sure I agree either, though.

I absolutely agree that Trump's mere existence pulled the mask off of all of these awful creatures, and for that I am truly grateful. No doubt about that.

Perhaps it takes garbage like Trump to reveal that. Maybe he is a living character test, but that is so not only for his detractors but also for his supporters. As I have said, I will vote for him, but I am not about to have positive feelings about somebody who is a moral zero and who is a nasty brute. And his kids, Ivanka aside, seem to be worse.
 
Whats not being understood here, is that Trump isn't a Republican either and the ol' boy GOP club wants him out of office worse than the liberals do.
Before Trump, the GOP just did whatever they could to keep their money train rolling in and didn't want to upset the party boat in the swamp .
Hurricane Trump has made their lives hell, as now they need to work for their constituents, not hide from them.
When either party held a majority, they did nothing but complain and raise tax's.
For 8 years we heard that the Obamcare tax sucks, and it did, but after he left office, the crickets was all that was heard from the GOP after all that time to come up with a counter proposal.
Trump had to step up and take the reins.
There is no other choice for president in my opinion.
You free men should count your blessings, as living in NY state, I've been living under the conditions that Joe biden is proposing for the rest of the nation.
If he gets in , your all fucked too and I won't have any free states to move, if I make it out of this prison.
 
I’ve never heard Trump apologize for being a businessman instead of a politician. He’s an egomaniac and a control freak, even he would probably tell you that...especially if you told him he was wrong. But at days’ end, he’s been effective both globally and domestically. This needs to be the bit that’s focused on, not his public speaking skills.

I think the thing is that we’ve all been conditioned to see a president as gentile and diplomatic. I also think if you go back to some of the writings of the Founding Fathers, you’ll find that they were anything but in their day. It’s just that history has taught us they were all gentleman. Regardless, their messages all ring true now more than ever as you what their visions for the Rebublic were.

Bring back the patriot, bring back the businessman, get rid of the career politician. Term limits are needed if this is ever to be reshaped. That and fresh blood. I don’t want a bloated government, but maybe it’s time for a payrise for elected officials at state and federal levels to incentivize individuals to take a break from the private sector and put an effort into representing the people.