I ordered the 5-25 SCR on the 5th, but it's still not here. UPS did one of those stupid handoffs so it said it was delivered but it's actually sitting say a post office somewhere. Hopefully it comes in early enough for me to get it zeroed ahead of time. I don't want to have to go to the home range the night before or something crazy.People are right. The Burris XTR3 is awfully hard to beat in its price point. The 3.3-18 has a killer FOV and a "fairly simple" reticle in the SCR. Or the SCR2 in a grid reticle at your budget. Its compact, less than 30ozs, covered or uncovered windage and locking diopter.
Its an awfully good gig..
That sounds like the next thing, then. Thanks!It was touched on briefly once, but I want to emphasize. Do not buy a cheap light based chrono! A magnetospeed Sporter has served me well. They are around $160 new.
I had a light based chrono that was around $150 for a long time before the magneto speed became available. It was pretty useless for shooting long range. It was just a guess at the velocity, and then I had to shoot to distance and true the velocity in the calculator. Eventually I stopped shooting over the chrono and just got dope and worked backwards with the ballistic solver to get the velocity.
Most top shooters still true at distance. They take the velocity from an accurate chronograph and then true bc at distance. You can do the same by shooting if you true velocity at 600 and bc at 800 or farther.
To reiterate, borrow a chrono until you can at least get a magnetospeed Sporter. You can get good data by inputting the velocity in 4DOF and shooting. The stuff past 600 might be slightly off, but it will be a start. For your first match it probably won't matter a bunch. There are a lot of things to learn. All of this is very simple, but there is a lot going on in a short time. Let people know you are new and most people will go out of their way to help you be successful.
If you are reloading at 10 pm or trying to get to the range as the sun sets the day before the match, you might be doing it wrong.go to the home range the night before or something crazy.
Sounds like you've been there?If you are reloading at 10 pm or trying to get to the range as the sun sets the day before the match, you might be doing it wrong.
Thats frustrating.. ☹I ordered the 5-25 SCR on the 5th, but it's still not here. UPS did one of those stupid handoffs so it said it was delivered but it's actually sitting say a post office somewhere. Hopefully it comes in early enough for me to get it zeroed ahead of time. I don't want to have to go to the home range the night before or something crazy.
Scope is on.Match is this Saturday? Is the scope on yet? My passing interest is growing in to genuine excitement for you.
Welp, guess I'll stop giving advice here till I can make an ace of clubs on a target tooHot damn. You’re 95% there. That’s a good looking group.
Very nice!Scope is on.
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I needed 6 rounds to zero, and then shot a 3 round group at 100.
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But I may have screwed up getting the turret caps off and on, so I want to at least fire a shot or two to make sure I didn't shift anything during the process.
I'm getting excited too!
Yeah, using the bipod and the recycled rubber shooting rest they leave at the range.Hot damn. You’re 95% there. That’s a good looking group.
See above!Welp, guess I'll stop giving advice here till I can make an ace of clubs on a target too
Nice work, good luck for the comp!
Thanks!Very nice!
I went up .1 mil and left .1 mil.Good group but PRS is not groups. I would move it a little left also as it's better to have the impact .1 mil/1/4 MOA left to give a little offset for spin at longer ranges. But not a big deal now as you are 20% there now that you have the rifle set up. The rest is the hard part in shooting the targets from many different positions in under 90 seconds. The rifle is the easy part. Go have some fun at the match and it will help you learn what you need to work on in the future.
AAR time!
BLUF:
TLDR:
- It's golf with guns.
- I'm really slow.
- I didn't make many shots.
- People are extremely nice and helpful.
- I learned a lot.
I didn't do half the things you recommended, but mostly because I was walking around like a lost puppy.
I went to the zero range first, because I knew there was supposed to be a Lab Radar available, and everyone here suggested I get my speeds. When I got there, I saw several Magnetospeeds and Lab Radars, but everyone had their own. When I was about 5 people from the front, I noticed there wasn't a "community/range" chrono, so I left without asking anyone. It seemed like people were getting "in the zone", and I didn't want to get in the way. I got my stuff from the truck, then bumped into the match director and thanked him for putting on the event. I didn't ask about the chrono, because at that point I realized we were getting to match time, and I wasn't going to slow things down for everyone.
I stood where the bulk of the people were, but when someone asked what Squad I was with, they said I was at the wrong stage (Squad 4 started at Stave 4, etc...) The match director overheard I standing at the wrong stage and took me to my squad RO, which is when things started to smooth out.
Once in my squad, people were really helpful. After witnessing me throwing my rice sock over the first barrier and shooting from it, I suddenly had several offers to try out different bags. My limited experience has made me gravitate to the Armageddon Gear Shmedium. The Game Changer was too big, and the Tater Tot was too heavy and bulky. Apparently I like my shirts and my shooting bags Shmedium. I'm sure this will change a lot as I get experience...
I honestly don't know if my "Test DOPE" was that far off- most of my misses were larger than a few tenths, and felt like they were more related to my lack of experience building a stable position. Roughly half the time I watched the reticle bounce around like I was a Seal sniper on the deck of a ship trying to shoot a Somali pirate. The other half was me trying to get my head position adjusted to actually see something through the scope (lower power is your friend). The remaining small percentage, I hit the target. I had 6 hits, and a 7.42% Match Percentage in Production. I rarely got off more than 2 shots each stage.
My favorite moment was when I was shooting prone at prairie dogs from a stacked shipping container. I'm not good at calling my shots, but on the second shot I finally had the "perfect" shot. I called it and managed recoil well enough to watch the impact.... three feet left. WTF!!? I couldn't dwell on it, so I reached up to dial the next target and the scope moved. I realized what happened, hand tightened the mount thumb screws and managed to take two more careful shots on the clock. Lessons learned- 1) Double-check your equipment before you go 2) Stay calm and work the problem. As nervous as I was most of the time, it was nice to have a moment of calm where I could still work through a problem and perform better than some earlier stages.
All in all, I'm definitely going to continue to do this. I'll save the money I was going to spend on a chassis and invest in a bag and more ammo. I have a ways to go before my rifle is the limiting factor. It was a lot of fun!
Thanks,
Carlos
Holy crap! That's crazy!Long story short, my GEN I PST gave up the ghost right there on the first stage of my first PRS match.
Yeah, I honestly need to figure out what power I was running. I honestly didn't look up at it. I just started at 5 and zoomed in until I felt comfortable enough to take the shot. At one point, one of the guys in my squad must have been leaning over me looking at my power knob, because I heard his voice say "No, dial it back some more until you find your target." When I'm not on the clock, I need to zoom in at different ranges and see what powers are good for different ranges. (Or don't and just do it by feel?)Most people will tell you they run about 12-15 power on their scopes. That was a hard lesson for me. Coming from bench and f-class, I was a max power all the time guy. As you found out, the eyebox and FOV is too small in this game for 25x.
Congrats on finishing your first match.
I definitely need observation practice through the scope, then. I was zooming in and out every stage.u are shooting as well as at what as if you are prone you can dial up as you will be more stable but if shooting off an obstacle then powering down to the 10-12x range can help you observe less movement. The movement is still there but it makes it easier to take a shot. So with that going into the stage you can figure what power you want to be on. I rarely touch my power ring after starting a stage. I set it and
That's the one! That is an amazing range to have 25 minutes from my house. Too bad that the matches are the only chance to get out there. No worries! There were bigger things I needed to work on before worrying about the exact speed. I couldn't keep the reticle on the target half the time. (I ordered a bag yesterday) I'll take you up on it next time though.@GPtuners I am assuming you are talking about the Turkey Creek match? I was there on Saturday (I was the one with the puppy at the end). Anyways, I would have brought my magneto speed for you to use, but I thought it was taken care of, sorry.
Generally the zero range is a little bigger and more people can shoot at the same time, because there was only room for one at a time it went a little slower than normal.
Congrats on competing in your first match!