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Might try using 17 Ackley Hornet load data and working up. H4198 used to be a go to load IIRC. It's been years since I formed and shot 17AH.Any updates on recipes? I recently acquired a CZ 527 that shoots factory Hornady loads very well, but I can't find any loadings that are worth a damn. Has been one of the more challenging cartridges for me. Using Hornady dies, FWIW.