Does this mean the negative clicks, 5 below zero, are full 1 mil clicks and not .1?
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Internal adjustment does not mean the full value is always shown in the turret. The scope has 34.9mils of elevation travel. So if you end up zeroing over 4.9 Mils over the very bottom of the scopes internal adjustment, the you will not get 30mils of usable travel.
For example, you Zero your rifle at say, 6.9mils over the absolute bottom of the internal elevation travel, and rotate allllll the way to the 30mil mark on the turret, you will stop short at 28mil. (Don't quote my math, I failed college trig twice, but you get the idea)
On the other hand, if you zero at 2.9mil over the bottom of the internal elevation travel, then you will be able to dial all the way to 30mil where it will stop. In either scenario you will retain the 0.5mil under the zero.
Hopefully this makes sense!
For example, you Zero your rifle at say, 6.9mils over the absolute bottom of the internal elevation travel, and rotate allllll the way to the 30mil mark on the turret, you will stop short at 28mil. (Don't quote my math, I failed college trig twice, but you get the idea)
On the other hand, if you zero at 2.9mil over the bottom of the internal elevation travel, then you will be able to dial all the way to 30mil where it will stop. In either scenario you will retain the 0.5mil under the zero.
Hopefully this makes sense!
Yes but in playing with the turret I don't see where the extra, more than 30 mil, adjustment is contained. The turret goes from 0 to 30 in 3 rotations and the below 0 adjustments are 5 clicks. Which I assumed were .1 clicks, so half a mil, but seeing the 34.9 claim now I wonder if the below 0 clicks are full 1 mil and not .1
The turret is the limiting factor. The scope may have 34.9mils of elevation built into it, the turret only allows 30mils of elevation max at any given time. The add this extra elevation so if you do zero the scope in less that 4.9mils above the bottom internal adjustment, you get that full 30mils of travel. So yes. The under zero adjustment would still be 0.1mil per click.
Did you crank the zero stop all the way to the bottom and then see how far it would travel? Sounds like your zero stop is set somewhere around 4.5 mils up from the very bottom (which by the way would be a perfect place for it to give you max elevation without being all the way at the top or bottom).
Yes this is my situation, zero the scope at 100, 200 or 300 yards with a 20 moa rail and only had about 19mil adjustment leftover
I started at the very bottom zero stop, then zero at 100 yards and only had 19 mil of adjustment left on a 20moa rail. I'm going to zero at 200 or 300 yards which I think will give me 25+ mil adjustment
They are NOT magically 1 MIL clicks instead of .1 mil
Your zero is slightly off Max travel, or your windage is pushed off from center enough to limit travel
But still curious because nobody has explained how the scope had 34.9 mil adjustment but only 0 to 30 on the turret with .5 below zero. I took the turret off, bottomed out the adjustment, dialed back 10 clicks, then rechecked turret range, the 0-30 was still available, when I went past the 10 clicks the 0-30 started to decrease.
If you change zero to 200 or 300 yards you'll have even less elevation left from zero....
Yeah. That's sounds normal man. And is normal on the Schmidt's I've had too with 20MOA rails. The only way to get closer to having 30mils of up travel in your situation is to either get a different base with 40-60moa or stack a 20moa mount on the 20moa base to have a total of 40moa over all.
An extra 20MOA added to your system will give you approx 6mils more up travel for a total of approx 25mil.
Realistically do you need 30mils of elevation? 19mils gets everything out to 1k easy. Except 22lr lol
I've explained it twice now how that is possible. The lights are on, but no one is home. I suggest calling leupold tomorrow to have them explain it.
An extra 20MOA added to your system will give you approx 6mils more up travel for a total of approx 25mil.
Realistically do you need 30mils of elevation? 19mils gets everything out to 1k easy. Except 22lr lol
I've explained it twice now how that is possible. The lights are on, but no one is home. I suggest calling leupold tomorrow to have them explain it.
Because it's a 7-35 magnification scope meant for shooting between 800 and 1400 yards
Interesting. I think I had around 24 or 25 mil of elevation with a 100yard zero. Was more than enough really.
No I'm totally nitpicking, I can easily shoot to 1200 yards with 19 mils adjustment. I just would prefer 22 to 25 mils of adjustment if possible. And I think if I zero at 200 or 300 I can get there
Something is definitely get lost in translation here
308 168gr eld
If you have to dial up from 100 zero to set your new 200 or 300 yard zero.... You will have exactly that amount less elevation from zero.
You gain nothing
But seriously nobody has been able to explain how the Mark5 has 34.9 mil adjustment but the turret only does 0-30 and negative .5
Changing your zero is not going to change the fact you have 19mils of travel with a 20MOA base from 100yd zero. Effectively you will now have 17-18mils of travel with a 200-300yd zero.
Get a 20MOA mount or a 40MOA base and you will gain another 6mil of adjustment out of the scope to put you at 25mils total.
Bro. Literally. Starting to think this is a troll post.
Anyone else here think my explanation makes sense on how this is possible? Or am I retarded too?
People are trying to explain it...
If you are really not tracking I'll call you and try to explain it if it helps
If you are just trolling, carry on
The bullet drops 13" at 300 yards, close to 4 mils. That mils I don't have to adjust for?
Thats 3 extra Mils you would have to dial over your 100yd zero giving you 16mils total elevation from a 300yd zero
I agree, but at least I have some confirmation I didn't botch the explanation. I need a therapist after this.
Hang in there!
There's lot of potential left in this...
I have a 7-35 and a 30 moa base I have exactly 19 mills of travel. 100 yard to 500 yard is 2 mills. There for if you site in at three hundred you will have even less up travel. And being a 308 you will be loosing even more. The only way you will get close to having all the mills is by have a shit ton of moa base. And just because the turret only says 30 doesn’t mean it’s not there. It doesn’t say minus .5 on it either even though it goes less. You don’t ever want to be at the extreme bottom top left or right.
I'm using a 20moa nightforce rail
OP...
Imagine that broad you wanted to take home from the bar had 8" of vag capability (the 34.9 of the scope) the dude she actually went home with has a fucking 12" horse dick (your want to get 40 mils of total elevation) theres no way that dude is getting balls deep.
You have 34.9 to work with and used up however many mils it took from when your turret bottoms out to where it is zeroed. You can turn as hard as you want, but that erection, err I mean erector can only go so far in the tube.
Imagine that broad you wanted to take home from the bar had 8" of vag capability (the 34.9 of the scope) the dude she actually went home with has a fucking 12" horse dick (your want to get 40 mils of total elevation) theres no way that dude is getting balls deep.
You have 34.9 to work with and used up however many mils it took from when your turret bottoms out to where it is zeroed. You can turn as hard as you want, but that erection, err I mean erector can only go so far in the tube.
If you cant think out of the box, think about what goes in it.
The scope internally has 35mil adjustment but the turret (due to the design) is limited to 30mil of travel.
A good example of this is the Vortex revstop system, the zerostop setup used limits the amount of travel the turret can use.
As for only having19mils of adjustment available, to get the extra 11mils you need to add more cant to your base/mount.
Either get a rail with more cant or a mount/rings with additional cant.
Another 20moa with give you an additional 6mils of travel.
You have 35 MRAD increments available in the scope, but the turret only has a range of 30 MRAD of adjustment up. Let's say you mount your scope on a 0 MOA/MRAD base using a 0 MOA/MRAD scope mount and at 100 yds it zeros with 17.5 MRAD up and 17.4 MRAD down. With the turret you could only dial up 17.5 MRAD and .5 down, because you are zeroed in the "middle" of the increments available. Now you add a 40 MOA/11.6 MRAD base, you would shift the 100 yd zero down the available increments by 11.6 MRAD and now have 29.1 MRAD (17.5+11.6) up, .5 down of turret travel. But you still do not have 30 MRAD of turret adjustment, so you add a custom 18.2 MOA/5.3 MRAD scope mount to the 40 MOA base. Now your 100 yd zero would have, theoretically, turret travel of 34.4 up (29.1+5.3) and .5 down (and at the very bottom of the available increments). But the turrets only would go up 30 MRAD due to its limitation. The reason for the 30 MRAD turret limit is due to how the M5C3 ZeroLock mechanism works with the lock release button retracting after the first revolution and then the button popping up on the second revolution. My math may off a little somewhere, but it should paint a picture.
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1800 yards but I just want around 22 mils for 1500 or 1600 yards
I'm not demanding 30mils I just want to maximize my potential. I have 19 now and really want more than 22. With elevation adjustment bottomed out I can turn the internal dial 10 clicks before it starts to subtract from the 30mils overall. I don't see where the further 3.4 clicks are located.
34.9 overall
10 clicks maxed out, 30mil(300 clicks ) in the turret and 5 clicks below zero, just curious where the other 3.4 mils are
Wait he said 13" of drop on a 168 .308 is almost 4 mils... Is he talking in moa?
Think you'll need to send it back to Leupold and have them install some more clicks, seems like some were left out during manufacturing.
Even on this obscure specialist board people rather post memes and insults than just discuss the topic and share insight. The internet is dead
I heard any extra get donated to other scopes that need more Mils
Bro. You’re as dense as a fuckin tube of tungsten. We all have explained how this works. You refuse to understand. I mean this in the nicest way possible.
Something about leading a horse to water...
Call leupold. Ask for a RMA as the scope is obviously defective. They sold you more Mils than the turret can handle.
No he's legit a troll. After the 4th message it was obvious.
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