Recent content by MarkCZ

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    Long gong

    We started long range knockdown steel a few years back. we started at 200 yds and 225 yds. As we got used to that we set up a rail at 285yds. We had a rail at 330yds it was a push for us for a while. then we pushed to 400yds. All mostly 2 MOA square target. our match you have 10 rounds to take...
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    What do you like to shoot?

    You do not have to be a member to shoot. Check web site for dates. https://roanokerifle.com/ https://roanokerifle.com/wp-content/pdfs/current_matches.pdf
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    What do you like to shoot?

    Yes
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    What do you like to shoot?

    Just sitting here on a rainy day in Coastal SC, Missing my favorite match. I'm going to try to make it back up to RRRC range in Roanoke this year. Me and my two friends started this match a few years ago. We started with gongs hanging on straps. I was hard to tell a strap hit or just nick on...
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    Customer Accuracy Expectations

    Average is the total of your groups divided by the # of groups. In shooting an AGG is the total of your groups divided by the # of groups. Maybe I'm not shooting AGG's, I must be averaging my group, just like you. You need to explain how you came uo with your Average, and how that is different...
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    Customer Accuracy Expectations

    I'm not invalidating your analysis. I said you are not shooting a 25 shot group, you shooting your card. You have to hold for your conditions. your analysis is good. That is the score shooting. I'm a long range steel shooter I hold for wind all the time. I go for hit %
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    Customer Accuracy Expectations

    I don't just shoot a 5 shot group, I shoot many. You say your gun averages in the low .3's at 50 yds and 5 shot ranging .15" to .45" . Average is an AGG. Just like I am doing. Now that is funny. I'm a long range steel shooter, I zero at 50 yds, get my ES and Tune for my vertical at 200yds and...
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    Customer Accuracy Expectations

    For ARA it is 25 single shot for a composite group for 25 rounds. The 40 rounds for F-Class is a composite group also. Both of these you are trying to hit a X. The composite is telling what group could be, but it is not 25 round or 40 round group fired at a single point. You are shooting your...
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    Customer Accuracy Expectations

    I am from a centerfire long range benchrest background. In centerfire we shoot 5 shot groups with 5 group AGG. for results. I shot 3 IBS world records in 600yds. I was the first to shoot below 1" with a 0.749" Light gun record. Not bragging, just to let guys know, I know what I am doing. I...
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    Customer Accuracy Expectations

    .2 mils is 1.44" at 200yds.
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    Customer Accuracy Expectations

    Those groups work good for me in good wind conditions. I don't shoot a lot of groups, I shoot steel. I setup 4", 3", 2' and 1" gongs at 200yds and a Long Gong setup at 300yds 8" ,6", 4". I set up 12" gongs for sighter, then try to run the steel, and see how many times I can hit the small ones. I...
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    Everyday ammo

    I shot the Club today. It shoots a little better than Contact. I shoot Dum Dum sucker at 100yds. 200yds i have 4", 3", 2" and a 1" 300yds I shoot Long Gongs 8", 6" and 4". I ran the 200yds gongs a few time clean 1 for 1 By the time I got to 300yds the wind got up. I could hit the 8" and 6", but...
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    Everyday ammo

    I have been shooting SK Long Range ammo for matches and Eley Contact for everyday for 3 years or so. Killough's has had Contact for $5.25/ box. but has gone up to $7.25 two month ago. At $5.25 it was the best ammo out there, but at $7.25 It is closer to SKLR the price. The SK line is no go right...
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    Which way to go??

    Don't go with CF get the steel barrel.
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    Help me decide-Vudoo, Anschutz or 457 MTR w/Lilja

    Bergara B14R steel barrel only. I replaced my triggers with Triggertech Diamond. B14r does not need a barrel replacement. you can get complete guns or barreled actions. They use 700 triggers and 700 chassis. I have 2 of them, they shoot great. Vudoo is in flux right now, if you find one or a...
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